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To think you don't say this to a child!

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UndertheCedartree · 07/03/2022 17:20

I spoke to the doctor this afternoon about my DD who has Long Covid. He wants to do a blood test to rule out any other causes of the symptoms.

I am separated from her dad but he was over at my house after picking her up from school. I spoke to DD alone about the blood test. She burst into tears but I explained they can put numbing cream on your skin so it shouldn't be too painful and promised her a muffin from the cafe. Along with a cuddle she calmed down. We came downstairs and I told her dad she needed a blood test. His response was 'Oh, I bet you're not looking forward to that!' at which point she burst into tears again! I don't understand why he can't think before he speaks!!

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JuneBug94 · 08/03/2022 07:35

A blood test is an unpleasant experience. But I wouldn't call it 'trauma'.

Maybe using words like this reflects on your DDs reactions such as bursting into tears when your ex says a throwaway comment that could've literally been about anything.

Anyway, I hope today goes well for her. (And you.)

MayorMargeret · 08/03/2022 08:20

If you ever come back to this thread (and I wouldn't blame you if you didn't) have you thought about why you needed to tell dd about the test while her dad was still there? On reflection it would seem logical to wait until after he'd gone.
Also you make the point about you having to calm her down again after his remark. Going forward, could you just leave him to deal with it? He caused the upset and should really sort it out. I presume he does if anything happens while he has her.
Anyway, good luck this morning. I hope dd will not be anxious.

UndertheCedartree · 08/03/2022 09:57

@me4real

I am neurodiverse. There are ways people can learn to improve their emotional regulation, through DBT therapy for instance.

(I'm not saying what your ex said was right BTW.)

But don't say even to yourself that she's unlikely to improve in her emotional regulation/sensitivity @UndertheCedartree .

There are probably things that can be begun right now to build her emotional resilience.

Barring something like someone being non verbal (and there are things that can be done for them, it's just a lot harder) we can all continue to improve throughout our lives, with work.

Thank you, yes, I'm a big fan of DBT.
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UndertheCedartree · 08/03/2022 09:59

@ancientgran - thank you - I agree she is only 9!

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UndertheCedartree · 08/03/2022 10:03

@BuddhaForMary

It all sounds very difficult OP, and there's clearly way more going on than a fairly innocuous comment from your DDs dad.

I do think you've overreacted, but if you're overwhelmed it's easy done. Sometimes it's the little things that set us off more than the big ones! I have adhd myself and was a very highly strung and over sensitive child. I wasn't diagnosed until I was 21 although I'd figured it out myself by 15. I'm sure you're doing your best for your DD and she'll handle the blood test just fine.

Take a deep breath and maybe step away from the thread now Thanks

Thank you for your kind comment.
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UndertheCedartree · 08/03/2022 10:06

@OmgIThinkILikeYou

Just to say OP, in future try yo use activities for the reward positive transitioning. I was always given sweets and chocolate after difficult things and now as an adult it is hardwired in my brain to turn to food for comfort.
Thank you, this is a good point. We do use all sorts of things, no just food. But the hospital has a Costa so the muffin was an easy choice this time!
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UndertheCedartree · 08/03/2022 10:07

@me4real

EMDR therapy really helped me *@UndertheCedartree* , and might help you if you've suffered trauma.
Thank you
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OrlandointheWilderness · 08/03/2022 10:13

Well it's a tiny tiny comment tbh! And no, she probably isn't looking forward to it! Tbh I find yours is a little more of an over the top reaction. It's only a blood test! I think you really have to be picking fault to get cross about this, we've all said something not entirely helpful in our lives at some point.

UndertheCedartree · 08/03/2022 10:14

[quote CheshireChat]@UndertheCedartree you're better off posting on one of the SEN boards for stuff like this.

My kid has ASD (final stages of the assessment) and I'd have to present it similarly to him.

Because if I wouldn't- the second he'd see the needle, he'd go into complete meltdown and lash out, kicking, screaming, screaming, biting doing as much damage as possible.

Not to mention I'd lose all of the hard earned trust he has in me.

To top it off, it'll take fucking years before I'd get him to see a dr, any dr again.

When he needed an emergency eye appointment as he got some glitter in it, it took over 8hrs of me, my mum and all of the fantastic HCP to manage to have a look.

That muffin looks a damn sight more reason now Hmm.

And he's needed to go to A&E to get checked up and have an x-ray recently. Despite waiting 9hrs (was busy) and being scared, he complied peaceful. Because I worked with him and I explained.[/quote]
Ah, thank you, I'll definitely post on the SEN board, next time. There's been so many unpleasant posters on here, which is a shame as they drown out the useful posts.

I completely recognise what you say. Many people without ASD kids just don't get it. I know my DC, I know what approach works, so clearly that is what I'm going to do. I'm not doing this intense approach for fun! I'm glad to hear he managed to have his x-ray ok.

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peboh · 08/03/2022 10:15

Blood tests do often hurt. There's no point in pretending you can mitigate the pain. Was his comment slightly thoughtless? Yes. However he didn't lie, he just told her the truth. I think the big issue here is getting your daughter support for her anxiety, it's clearly something that she's struggling with and you seem to be wrapping her up in cotton wool to make things 'easier' (which is great) but not actually dealing with the issue at hand.

peboh · 08/03/2022 10:16

Oh wait just seen your last comment. Does your child have asd? If so then ignore my comment as the way to approach it would be totally different.

EmpressCixi · 08/03/2022 10:50

@peboh

Oh wait just seen your last comment. Does your child have asd? If so then ignore my comment as the way to approach it would be totally different.
Well, not diagnosed with ASD, but suspected per the OP.
Sirzy · 08/03/2022 11:16

I am actually impressed a (possibly) autistic, highly anxious person is so easily plated and bribed with a muffin offer after something to be honest!

OrlandointheWilderness · 08/03/2022 11:56

Ah sorry - my bad, just read the latest. Didn't realise there were additional factors, in which case he really should've known how to handle the situation better!

MurmuratingStarling · 08/03/2022 12:32

@UndertheCedartree

Well, plenty of people have agreed with me! However, as I said it was just a vent!

Over 80% of almost 1300 people have DISAGREED with you though. I would say that pretty much confirms that you ARE being unreasonable.

Surely you should accept you are now yes? Seeing as how you posted this thread on here asking mumsnet posters if you are being unreasonable, and some 1100 out of 1300 (over 80%) have said you ARE being unreasonable!

Why don't you just accept you are being unreasonable?

Stomacharmeleon · 08/03/2022 12:37

@MurmuratingStarling because they have a track record for not listening...... ever

187mob · 08/03/2022 13:44

I’m going to go against the grain here and simply state that at the end of the day, whilst OP did come here for advice, those attacking her are really not helping. Take some time away from this thread OP to look after and love on your children, and then come back and make your final decision. Ultimately, and —dis—respectfully, ignore what most of the pp’s have said because this is your child and nobody knows your child better than you.

187mob · 08/03/2022 13:45

Apologies, the dis in disrespectful was supposed to have a line through it. Still learning how to use this site. Forgive me!

UndertheCedartree · 08/03/2022 14:07

[quote Nocutenamesleft]@UndertheCedartree

I work in endocrine. You said hypothyroidism?

Please PM me. I might be able to help or even point you in the right direction. If you’re exhausted and cold then that means your levels aren’t enough and need to be reviewed ASAP really.[/quote]
Thank you

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UndertheCedartree · 08/03/2022 14:09

@SpidersAreShitheads

I've only just seen this post.

I'm autistic. I have two DC who are both autistic.

I am spectacularly comfortable with needles. Have absolutely ZERO nerves even for injections which are known to be a bit more painful. Had to have my blood taken last year and a cannula and they struggled, I had needles hanging out of my arms everywhere!

My children though are about as terrified of the idea of needles as you could ever get. Literally petrified. They are both 12 yrs old, and there is absolutely ZERO chance of getting a needle near either one of them.

They won't have their COVID jabs. They're now home educated so it matters less as there's not the same huge exposure as at school.

I have no clue how I'm going to get them to have they BCG etc. Nurses won't pin kids down for injections and there is no way they would consent.

My DS had a really unpleasant rash in December which wouldn't go. I posted about it on here. There were some concerns it was systemic so GP asked for blood tests. I had numbing cream. Absolutely no chance. He refused, got very very very upset about the idea.

As it happened, the rash magically disappeared - thank the actual fuck.

If you don't have an anxious child, especially one who's autistic, you have no idea how bad things can get.

Yes, getting that upset over such a small thing is irrational. But anxiety is often irrational, and anxiety can be a very big part of autism.

Suggesting kids just need to suck it up and get over it is a very ableist attitude - it sounds like OP has done really well to persuade her anxious child that this is going to be OK.

Re your ex, honestly it's not the worst comment ever but it's just a bit bloody annoying and thoughtless, especially if he knows your DD will be anxious.

I think the thing is with an autistic child that so often you're juggling lots of things, trying to anticipate problems and smooth the path because when things go wrong there can be a long-term impact. A bird squawking suddenly out of a bush at my son aged 3 has given him a overwhelming fear of birds - to a ridiculous degree - and a complete refusal to walk past certain things. I love birds. I'm a birdwatcher. Parental behaviour is not the cause of an autistic child's phobias. We know how the smallest thing can cause the biggest tsunami of distress, and we're used to having to plan, anticipate and manage things that most parents don't ever have to consider.

If your DC aren't like this and don't need this level of support just to get through the most basic things, then you're lucky - but you have no idea what it's like, or how bloody hard and unrelenting it is.

The same happened to my DS re:dogs. He did get over it after many years. I love dogs, never been scared of them.

Yes, it can be so unrelenting, no wonder we need to vent sometimes!

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UndertheCedartree · 08/03/2022 14:11

@Swonderful

You do realise that some kids have to have regular blood tests. You're making a big deal out of nothing. Sounds like she needs to toughen up a bit!
Yep, I was one of them. It was a traumatic experience for me as my parents didn't know I was autistic.
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toomanydogsandcats · 08/03/2022 14:11

You sound like a nightmare partner. No.wonder he is ex

UndertheCedartree · 08/03/2022 14:11

[quote Stressedmummyof4]@UndertheCedartree

Incase this might help, I have a little one who is autistic. They have to go for bloods every 4 weeks just now because of low neutrophil count. I buy Emla cream from the chemist, I pop it on both arms around 30/45 mins before the appointment that way it's good and numb. Remember to do both arms and drink loads of water/diluting as the veins need to be well hydrated to pop up as such! Good luck [/quote]
Thank you for the tips!

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UndertheCedartree · 08/03/2022 14:13

@Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious - my mum used to call me dramatic, when actually I was just autistic with unmet needs. I wish people wouldn't just throw around the word 'dramatic'! Some of us feel things more. If you can't understand that, because you don't - well, lucky you!

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toomanydogsandcats · 08/03/2022 14:16

Sweetie go rest. You are way too invested