Which Ukrainian animal charities should I donate to please?

[Snooks1971]

PETA?
Can anyone advise - thank you.

thepackpet.com/blogs/news/helping-animals-pawrents-in-ukraine

I just found this. Sorry if it's already been posted upthread. If not, hope it helps, OP and others.

@BuffaloPickle

Animals are innocent. Human-centric people should know that animals are necessary for our ecosystem, which means that, without them we will die. If that's what it takes for some to understand that animals need help too..

I support donating to any charity, including animals but...

Dogs are definitely not part of our ecosystem, in fact they're a drain on resources and don't actually contribute anything besides the intangible (companionship) unless we start eating them (not happening).

@HoldingTheDoor

Honestly the arrogance of humans is unbelievable. We've fucked over the entire planet and ourselves with it because we believe that we're the only species that matters. Perhaps if we had a little more humility we, the planet and everything that resides upon it wouldn't be in this situation with climate change in the first place.

This is a war entirely due to humans as are all wars. Animals make zero contribution to wars. They don't vote, they don't buy goods that fund weapons or the bank accounts of oligarchs. They don't create hatred by participating in othering, racism and xenophobia. They don't crave luxury goods that are only possible due to the exploitation of other human beings and cause land grabs.. They have even less say in wars than anyone yet they suffer hideously because of conflicts that we humans, and only humans, have created.

We take from them everything yet we owe them nothing? BS. And that doesn't mean that I think that everyone should donate to animal charities but if people want to they don't deserve to be criticised. Personally I have no qualms about donating to both humans and animals and have done so.

Well said that person 👏

The YABU viewpoint depends on the idea that there is a fixed amount of charity to be doled out, and giving to one denies the others. It may work like that for some people, who have a limited amount to give or fix an amount for whatever other reason. But for most of us, we give when we gone across an appeal or an organisation or a disaster that speaks to us. I doubt many are donating funds to animals instead of humans - it’s money that wouldn’t be donated otherwise.

So I find the YABU perspective difficult because it places value on NOT giving, and importantly being seen not to give, to causes deemed less worthy. We saw this with Nowzad. People found it disgraceful that animals could be helped regardless of whether that impacted people or not. The worthy thing was to be seen not to care about animals.

Same thing with people who take on refugees and incur the ire of others who question why they don’t house the homeless instead.

@LadyPenelope68

All that’s happening to the women, children and men in the Ukraine and you want to donate to animal charities?? Sorry, I think that’s absolutely bizarre.

That’s because everyone is of course worried about the people and helping. But many people have compassion for the other innocents in all this and want to help them too. I certainly do. It’s not bizarre, it’s beautiful and you are sadly missing this emotion

OP you posted in good faith asking how to help defenceless creatures. Many animals bring so much to people's lives and people will be distraught about their plight as well as that of human suffering.

For those derailing the thread, making it all about you and having to have the last word, shame on you.

OP I hope you've had some helpful advice on here to answer your question. Please ignore those hell bent on imposing their unwanted opinions. It's easier to pounce on you than do something constructive themselves

@BlancheB

OP you posted in good faith asking how to help defenceless creatures. Many animals bring so much to people's lives and people will be distraught about their plight as well as that of human suffering.

For those derailing the thread, making it all about you and having to have the last word, shame on you.

OP I hope you've had some helpful advice on here to answer your question. Please ignore those hell bent on imposing their unwanted opinions. It's easier to pounce on you than do something constructive themselves

Exactly, I also think they wouldn’t donate a penny to humans either.

Why should human lives come first ? Genuine question

If a firefighter came out of my house with a guinea pig hutch before your child or elderly parent, can you homes say old be thrilled? It's self defeating, if it was your family you would t think this.

That's not to say animal lives dont matter. Orangutans, gorillas, elephants etc. Are so precious and amazing. But I think I'd rank household pets below humans in a crisis- but that's just me.

@SweatyPie

Why should human lives come first ? Genuine question

If a firefighter came out of my house with a guinea pig hutch before your child or elderly parent, can you homes say old be thrilled? It's self defeating, if it was your family you would t think this.

That's not to say animal lives dont matter. Orangutans, gorillas, elephants etc. Are so precious and amazing. But I think I'd rank household pets below humans in a crisis- but that's just me.

Ok you’ve had your say but op was asking about how to donate to a charity, not for your opinion. Please be sure to cancel your next holiday and donate to Ukraine crisis 🙄

@HoldingTheDoor

How many threads about animal charities v threads about racism at the boarder?

I've seen it discussed on many threads. Also some of us are capable of thinking about more than one issue at a time.

Discussed yes. But everyone denies racism exists and anyone saying racism happened at the borders secretly hates Ukrainians and is praying for their downfall.

@curlymom

I'm responding to someone else. If you can't handle an opinion go cry in a corner.

@Jobseeker19

The amount of people caring about stray animals when black students are being denied the right to leave is astounding.

How many threads about animal charities v threads about racism at the boarder?

Oh I didn't realise you could only care about one of these horrible issues.

@Snooks1971 Your are completely right

I tried googling it on Friday as I wanted my money or food yo get as close to local either in Ukraine or at the polish border as possible

So thanks for the thread

I can look at some of these and get my money into the Ukraine /Poland today

[quote SweatyPie]@curlymom

I'm responding to someone else. If you can't handle an opinion go cry in a corner. [/quote]
Handle my opinion and get lost

I'm responding to someone else. If you can't handle an opinion go cry in a corner.

Another human that I’d happily help any animal over.

So many shitty humans.

@BuyDirt

I'm responding to someone else. If you can't handle an opinion go cry in a corner.

Another human that I’d happily help any animal over.

So many shitty humans.

Absolutely. Another bored person annoying others online.

Much as this thread has taken a turn for the worst thank you for posting, I was.looking for the same information.

@BuyDirt

I'm responding to someone else. If you can't handle an opinion go cry in a corner.

Another human that I’d happily help any animal over.

So many shitty humans.

Do you not have anyone in your life that you love? Given Ukraine is I'm a war, this is why people are responding to you and why PP rightly questioned if people give a shit about black people in Ukraine I can never understand this perspective. Not even equal, over, come on now.

Oh well, I'll never get it.

Fundacja Animal Charity were asking for pet carriers . I have donated
they are on facebook

A poster opens a thread genuinely asking for info, gets shot down in flames, there then follows much sniping and general unpleasantness. Some opinionated posters WASTE half the thread making it all about them! It happens all the time on Mumsnet, no wonder I can't be bothered with it so much nowadays. FWIW, I now know who wouldn't have my back in a crisis, I'd be deemed unworthy because I'd be trying to save my dogs.

Animals are just as important as humans, so all these people saying they aren't are just being ridiculous. YOU may think you;re better than an animal, but fortunately many people don't think the same way. The sooner everyone goes vegan the better - if everyone was there would certainly be no wars that's for sure as you'd understand that everyone, including animals deserve to be cared for.

It's so sad to see there are still people who say you shouldn't help the animals, just people - pathetic!

You understand children are dying don’t you?

@Whatsonmymindgrapes

You understand children are dying don’t you?

No, everyone missed that until you pointed it out.

🙄

@Whatsonmymindgrapes

You understand children are dying don’t you?

Of course. The whole situation is diabolical. Truly inhumane. But why shouldn’t animal lovers be allowed to try and help animals? I find it baffling.

Those objecting to helping animals when children are dying fail to realise that it is all the same thing to CARE. The welfare of people is intrinsically linked to the animals they love.

This man lost his children and his wife to a missile in Irpin yesterday (the man killed with them was not the dad). He is obviously devastated but is still trying to find his dogs left behind as they are all he has left of his family now.