Which Ukrainian animal charities should I donate to please?

[Snooks1971]

PETA?
Can anyone advise - thank you.

Not sure which specific charities would be best, but do not donate to PETA. They are horrific.

For those criticising the op can I ask you to Google Anastasiia Yalanskaya. A brave young Ukrainian woman shot dead by Russian forces as she drove to deliver supplies to an animal shelter.
Ask yourselves if your keyboard warrioring is as brave as this amazing young woman !!

Of course you can donate to both - but by doing so you are taking some of your donation away from people and giving it to animals. That money could make the difference between a person getting food, medical help or a way out of danger or not.

And by donating to Ukraine you are taking your donations away from other charities that are equally worthy. It's not the only conflict in town or the only good cause. Should people be wringing their hands over people prioritising Ukrainians when others are arguably suffering just as much?

I also assume that all the naysayers will be living on bread and gruel now? No treats allowed as every penny you spend on something you really don't need is money that could be going to help Ukrainians?

[quote Anonymouslyposting]@MidnightMeltdown of course I’ve wasted money that could be better spent (I have also donated). I’m not saying that the OP is awful and I’m perfect. I just think that animals should not come before people and to have actually decided to give and chosen to give to animals rather than people is unreasonable (which was what the OP asked by posting here).

To be clear if OP had not posted in AIBU I would not have posted my view but she did - and if you look at the votes I’m in the majority.

Also, to those saying “animals didn’t start this” - nor did the civilians being attacked and killed.[/quote]
@Anonymouslyposting How do you know that OP hasn't donated to humans too?

Thousands and thousands of people have fled with their animals. Money raised by these charities could help them in terms of providing food, veterinary care, shelter etc. That will in turn help their owners.

Some people will not leave without their animals. One woman in Ukraine was killed after she refused to leave her rescue animals behind. Maybe, if a charity had been able to step in and help, she would have been able to escape.

@LadyPenelope68. I don’t get why you would be so unpleasant. My working life is devoted to terminally ill people, patients at the end of life and their families and looking after the bereaved. I’m passionate about what I do and care deeply about alleviating loneliness and suffering. But I also love animals and care for them too. For me it’s all about protection of the vulnerable and animals fall in to that. And interestingly my colleagues are all very similar. Once again look at people staying in Ukraine to try and care for their pets or their animal sanctuaries - good and kind people you’ve just dismissed as bloody idiots. That doesn’t exactly sound like overwhelming compassion you claim to have for humans over animals does it?

Honestly the arrogance of humans is unbelievable. We've fucked over the entire planet and ourselves with it because we believe that we're the only species that matters. Perhaps if we had a little more humility we, the planet and everything that resides upon it wouldn't be in this situation with climate change in the first place.

This is a war entirely due to humans as are all wars. Animals make zero contribution to wars. They don't vote, they don't buy goods that fund weapons or the bank accounts of oligarchs. They don't create hatred by participating in othering, racism and xenophobia. They don't crave luxury goods that are only possible due to the exploitation of other human beings and cause land grabs.. They have even less say in wars than anyone yet they suffer hideously because of conflicts that we humans, and only humans, have created.

We take from them everything yet we owe them nothing? BS. And that doesn't mean that I think that everyone should donate to animal charities but if people want to they don't deserve to be criticised. Personally I have no qualms about donating to both humans and animals and have done so.

Anastasiia Yalanskaya

Anastasiia Yalanskaya

Terrible doesn't begin to cover it. I see that she'd also been helping to deliver supplies to young children too. What an amazing woman she was. Thank you for sharing her name and photo. RIP Anastasiia.

Sorry, I haven't read the whole thread. But read enough to see that many of the usual self-righteous 'put people first' tropes are being trotted out. It's literally noone else's business where the OP chooses to donate or spend her money. Many people never give to charity at all. It's wonderful the OP is being so caring to vulnerable beings.
As others have said, it's not a case of either/or anyway. We can give to both. I care about both people and animals, and will give to both. But, I have no problem with people who choose to give to just one or the other. Their money, their time, their life and their choice.

@HoldingTheDoor

Honestly the arrogance of humans is unbelievable. We've fucked over the entire planet and ourselves with it because we believe that we're the only species that matters. Perhaps if we had a little more humility we, the planet and everything that resides upon it wouldn't be in this situation with climate change in the first place.

This is a war entirely due to humans as are all wars. Animals make zero contribution to wars. They don't vote, they don't buy goods that fund weapons or the bank accounts of oligarchs. They don't create hatred by participating in othering, racism and xenophobia. They don't crave luxury goods that are only possible due to the exploitation of other human beings and cause land grabs.. They have even less say in wars than anyone yet they suffer hideously because of conflicts that we humans, and only humans, have created.

We take from them everything yet we owe them nothing? BS. And that doesn't mean that I think that everyone should donate to animal charities but if people want to they don't deserve to be criticised. Personally I have no qualms about donating to both humans and animals and have done so.

This.

@WTFGG

For those criticising the op can I ask you to Google Anastasiia Yalanskaya. A brave young Ukrainian woman shot dead by Russian forces as she drove to deliver supplies to an animal shelter. Ask yourselves if your keyboard warrioring is as brave as this amazing young woman !!

Of course I don’t think commenting on here is as brave as Anastasiia Yalanskaya. I doubt I’m anything like as brave as her in real life let alone by commenting on the internet. She died doing something kind and, although it’s not what I think is the most important thing, she absolutely deserves respect and admiration

@Anonymouslyposting

And animal charities could help people like her and prevent more deaths of people trying to protect animals.

@HoldingTheDoor

Honestly the arrogance of humans is unbelievable. We've fucked over the entire planet and ourselves with it because we believe that we're the only species that matters. Perhaps if we had a little more humility we, the planet and everything that resides upon it wouldn't be in this situation with climate change in the first place.

This is a war entirely due to humans as are all wars. Animals make zero contribution to wars. They don't vote, they don't buy goods that fund weapons or the bank accounts of oligarchs. They don't create hatred by participating in othering, racism and xenophobia. They don't crave luxury goods that are only possible due to the exploitation of other human beings and cause land grabs.. They have even less say in wars than anyone yet they suffer hideously because of conflicts that we humans, and only humans, have created.

We take from them everything yet we owe them nothing? BS. And that doesn't mean that I think that everyone should donate to animal charities but if people want to they don't deserve to be criticised. Personally I have no qualms about donating to both humans and animals and have done so.

This times a million

@Prescottdanni123 I don’t know that the OP hasn’t donated to human charities as well but either way she’s giving some of her donations to animal charities which means money going to Ukraine prioritising animals not people.

If people won’t leave without their pets then that’s very sad and we should do our best to help them but not at the expense of innocent people. I’d certainly be packing my pets into carriers and trying to take them with me - but I wouldn’t give them resources that could help my children (or anyone’s children) instead.

[quote Prescottdanni123]@Anonymouslyposting

And animal charities could help people like her and prevent more deaths of people trying to protect animals.[/quote]
Yes, but people charities can help more people like her. I’d rather help two people than a person and a dog.

Hi op thanks for starting this thread I've also been wanting to donate to an animal charity. As for those whining that animal charities shouldn't be a priority during a war, get over yourselves. We can donate to both you know. It's often the animals that get forgotten in these situations when the public are falling over themselves to donate stuff for people.

@HoldingTheDoor

Honestly the arrogance of humans is unbelievable. We've fucked over the entire planet and ourselves with it because we believe that we're the only species that matters. Perhaps if we had a little more humility we, the planet and everything that resides upon it wouldn't be in this situation with climate change in the first place.

This is a war entirely due to humans as are all wars. Animals make zero contribution to wars. They don't vote, they don't buy goods that fund weapons or the bank accounts of oligarchs. They don't create hatred by participating in othering, racism and xenophobia. They don't crave luxury goods that are only possible due to the exploitation of other human beings and cause land grabs.. They have even less say in wars than anyone yet they suffer hideously because of conflicts that we humans, and only humans, have created.

We take from them everything yet we owe them nothing? BS. And that doesn't mean that I think that everyone should donate to animal charities but if people want to they don't deserve to be criticised. Personally I have no qualms about donating to both humans and animals and have done so.

Yes, I largely agree. When you look at it logically, really animals are far more deserving than we are. For some reason, I can't help but care about people too, in spite of our bad behaviour. Obviously children are innocent. For these reasons, I'll give to both animal and human charities helping in Ukraine and elsewhere at this time. But I do agree we're the most badly behaved species. No contest

@HoldingTheDoor

Honestly the arrogance of humans is unbelievable. We've fucked over the entire planet and ourselves with it because we believe that we're the only species that matters. Perhaps if we had a little more humility we, the planet and everything that resides upon it wouldn't be in this situation with climate change in the first place.

This is a war entirely due to humans as are all wars. Animals make zero contribution to wars. They don't vote, they don't buy goods that fund weapons or the bank accounts of oligarchs. They don't create hatred by participating in othering, racism and xenophobia. They don't crave luxury goods that are only possible due to the exploitation of other human beings and cause land grabs.. They have even less say in wars than anyone yet they suffer hideously because of conflicts that we humans, and only humans, have created.

We take from them everything yet we owe them nothing? BS. And that doesn't mean that I think that everyone should donate to animal charities but if people want to they don't deserve to be criticised. Personally I have no qualms about donating to both humans and animals and have done so.

This. 👏 👏 👏

And don’t forget we have used animals to help us in wars over the years. Animals are truly amazing and will always be deserving of our help.

@Anonymouslyposting

If you want to donate to humans only, that is your prerogative. I'm choosing to help both.

Although, do you honestly think the thousands and thousands of people who have fled with their animals wouldn't find aid from animal charities helpful? For all the people who are fleeing with pets, how many are staying behind because they cannot make the journey to safety with animals in tow. It will be more than just the ones we have heard about. These people may be able to leave if a charity is able to step in and help them.

45 tonnes of pet food has already arrived in Lviv ready to be distributed to rescue centres. More on its way. Help is also being given at the borders with food, carriers, leads and veterinary care.

The amount of people caring about stray animals when black students are being denied the right to leave is astounding.

How many threads about animal charities v threads about racism at the boarder?

@Prescottdanni123 I’m sure those fleeing with their pets would find animal charities helpful I just don’t think it should be as high a priority as saving people.

Anyway, I’m going to step away from this thread now. I’m not going to change anyone’s mind, I never expected to, I just answered with my view as to whether the OP was being unreasonable (which they asked) and there’s no point all of us repeating our own entrenched positions.

How many threads about animal charities v threads about racism at the boarder?

I've seen it discussed on many threads. Also some of us are capable of thinking about more than one issue at a time.

I’m not good at doing links, but One dog at a time rescue, which is based in Romania, but owned by a British lady, has created a just giving page and is taking lots of food, blankets and sanitary products over the border to refugees. They’re also working with a guy on the border who has opened his hotel to refugees.

I’ve also seen a legitimate site for helping get hay to people’s evacuated horses. I think it was on the British Eventing Facebook pages. Alice Fox Pitt was involved.

For those saying help the humans first - it’s not so black and white - lots of these evacuated people have taken their pets with them. If I was in a subway station with my pets I’d be worried sick about feeding them too. Plus people are already doing a lot to help the people. Lots of people want to help people and animals. Thank goodness not everyone can just turn their back on the animals.

[quote Anonymouslyposting]@Prescottdanni123 I don’t know that the OP hasn’t donated to human charities as well but either way she’s giving some of her donations to animal charities which means money going to Ukraine prioritising animals not people.

If people won’t leave without their pets then that’s very sad and we should do our best to help them but not at the expense of innocent people. I’d certainly be packing my pets into carriers and trying to take them with me - but I wouldn’t give them resources that could help my children (or anyone’s children) instead.[/quote]
What would be the point of packing your pets into carriers if you aren’t going to feed them?? How do you propose that people feed their refugee pets if people don’t donate aid for pets?