To not buy non vegan food

[Ellie198712]

I’ve recently (2 months ago) gone vegan after watching Earthlings and thinking about how I can’t honestly distinguish between eating a dog or a cow.

DH isn’t vegan and has no intent of becoming one, which is fine, obviously ideally I’d like if we could be a plant based household but it’s his life and diet!

However I feel really uncomfortable buying him eggs and meat when I go to the shops. Today it’s caused a bit of a row as I popped into our veg shop to stock up on veg and he asked me to pick up milk and eggs. I said I didn’t really want to buy them 🤦‍♀️

He’ll eat it what he wants of course but I don’t want to buy things associated with animal suffering really 🤷🏼‍♀️

[quote TheCraicDealer]@MurmuratingStarling no, he went vegan after they married. [/quote]
I suspected as much. Some vegans - not all, become obsessed. Some of them are like the people who get roped into MLMs and try and get everyone else on board too, and can't fathom why people are not interested.

I also re-iterate and agree with a few others, that a marriage/relationship is unlikely to last if one of them turns vegan. A vegan and a meat eater are way too incompatible. It's like 2 different religions. OR like someone being a very devout Catholic and the other being atheist. It just wouldn't work. And as I said, there's no way I could be in a relationship with a vegan. Most of them are just too extreme.

JMHO. This thread is getting way out of hand now, and people on both sides are turning nasty.

I'm out too.

@Ellie198712 I am sorry you are receiving such bile on here. As I said, I do know some perfectly nice vegans, but also some who are insufferable. You sound like the first type. I would report your own thread if I were you and ask mumsnet to delete it. Because it's gone off the rails now!

I’m vegan and I do not buy or handle animal products for anyone else at home, including kids. Very reasonable. Kids will adjust and if your partner doesn’t like it he can buy his own animal products.

Would you be so brave to post that on a thread about a devout Muslim refusing to by alcohol?

Why would that be brave? Are you saying Muslims might be aggressive about it?

That's why I only post about topics which attract respectful and tolerant posters.

Well I don't understand the difference between picking it up in the shop and adding it to the online order.

So for that reason I think YABU

@AWavyLine

DP ordered a beef burger for delivery as he didn’t fancy that

This would really annoy me.

Why? He's not obliged to eat what he doesn't like

YABU

You are essentially making his life harder bc of your new found principles. I wouldn't have time for that at all. My DH and I are a team and I'd be furious if he decided he just wasn't going to pick up something from the shop for me whilst already there.

Maybe you need to reconsider the household jobs. If you aren't comfortable doing the shopping now then let him do all the shopping and you can pick up a job that he typically does.

I've already answered that.

Sorry, I missed that post. What do you do?

YABU and ridiculous. You're married and presumably share finances to a degree, you're not housemates

For the third time, OP didn’t say he didn’t like it, she said he didn’t fancy it. Ordering a takeaway when someone has cooked you a meal is extremely rude.

Yabu. I don't eat meat yet buy and cook it for dh and ds. My decision is my own and I can't / won't force it on anyone or be difficult and awkward.

Why? He's not obliged to eat what he doesn't like

I obviously dont know exactly what the set up is

But if i cook something for dh that he hasn’t tried before i would be pissed if he ordered takeout

If i cook him something he doesn’t like that may be different (though I obviously wouldn’t do this)

Apologies if i have missed a post from the OP clarifying the matter

Stop expecting others to educate you and do it yourself if you're actually interested.

How can I be educated as to the reasons for your value judgment by someone else? You've become personally abusive because I replied to OP's point about eating dog. Clearly it's very emotive for you but I don't see what you get by being cagy about why after so many posts.

To whoever said European animals are treated better- oh, behave!
A European cow doesn't want to be your dinner any more than any other one, and is still often factory farmed.

Peanut noodles sound lovely (apart from the fact dd is allergic so we can only eat this stuff when she’s not here)

I do something similar with noodles, cucumbers, peanuts and and a soy sauce dressing

@Chloemol

So basically you are going to do two shopping trips a week as you don’t want to buy any animal products due to your newfound veganism

In this case it’s milk and eggs, the animals producing them are still alive

Are you going to tell him he can’t have animal products in the house at all now?

Have you gone through your wardrobe and thrown out all the leather goods you may have?

Don’t be so silly

Around 29 million male chicks are killed in the UK each year so that we can eat eggs. Gassed straight after birth. (Look up chick culling.)

Why would you assume it's a value judgement

How can it not be? There is presumably some reason you think cow is OK but dog cannot be mentioned. Many cultures around the world disagree.

I'm afraid I don't have time to educate goady internet strangers about the science of animal welfare at slaughter.

Oh, it's just that dog slaughter has lower welfare standards? Completely agree but I didn't mention the ethics of eating it- OP asked about distinguishing the taste, someone said you can, I suggested not always.

I've never eaten low-welfare dog meat.

But sure, assume that's due to my 'emotivity' if that makes it easier for you. My career success undermines that assumption slightly, but whatevs.

I'm not familiar with your career, just your posts on here. Emotive is a polite euphemism because I did not want to make you more angry.

Ugh, my mother was like you OP. "Right kids, I've watched some claptrap on the telly, and I've decided that from now on XXX..."

Pure narcissism. And an embarrassing lack of maturity.

Indulge your orthorexic superiority complex to your little heart's content, but don't expect your family (or anyone else) to pander to it.

I don’t see any reason why he can’t eat what you eat tbh. If he wants meat he can sort it himself

There is presumably some reason you think cow is OK but dog cannot be mentioned.

You're either confusing me with a different poster or imagining things

@KidneyBeans

There is presumably some reason you think cow is OK but dog cannot be mentioned.

You're either confusing me with a different poster or imagining things

I think it’s because you are having a pop at the poster for eating dog but not cow

I could be epically wrong though

@Cocha

*If everyone were to become vegan they wouldn’t not be reducing animal suffering. There simply won’t be any animals; who is going to keep fields of livestock simply because we love them? Ruminants such as cows and sheep can turn grass, which we can’t eat, into milk and meat, which we can.*

Seriously? Are you that stupid?

@Cocha, would you please explain the reasoning behind your comment.