To not buy non vegan food

[Ellie198712]

I’ve recently (2 months ago) gone vegan after watching Earthlings and thinking about how I can’t honestly distinguish between eating a dog or a cow.

DH isn’t vegan and has no intent of becoming one, which is fine, obviously ideally I’d like if we could be a plant based household but it’s his life and diet!

However I feel really uncomfortable buying him eggs and meat when I go to the shops. Today it’s caused a bit of a row as I popped into our veg shop to stock up on veg and he asked me to pick up milk and eggs. I said I didn’t really want to buy them 🤦‍♀️

He’ll eat it what he wants of course but I don’t want to buy things associated with animal suffering really 🤷🏼‍♀️

Yes the majority of soy is for animal feed but why let facts get in the way of people trying to justify to themselves why it's fine to eat meat.

[quote Flubber88]@ButteryNuts. go into a supermarket tomorrow - anyone - look at the latest fancy 'ethical' vegan range, it will all contain oodles of palm oil.

And your comment re cows. Check out Beyond Meats advertising campaign on You Tube.

“What if we took this cow off the table and just made friends with her? #GoBeyond”

Yes they ARE selling the "illusion that if they go vegan all the cows are going to firstly, not be killed and secondly, continue to be bred to live out their lives in blissful pasture" Exactly that. I rest my case. Nighty[/quote]
You don’t have to eat ‘ethical vegan range’ to eat vegan. Ive made thousands of vegan meals just from store cupboard ingredients and vegetables.

I know that some do contain palm oil, so do non-vegan products. I’ll check some random items from different supermarkets, the first that come up, to see whether it is ‘all’.

M&S Plant Kitchen Hot Cross Buns: No palm oil.

Sainsburys Plant Pioneers Shroomdogs: Does contain palm oil, clarifies ‘sustainable’

Asda plant based tikka masala: No palm oil.

Linda Mcartney Mince: No palm oil

Beyond Meat Burger: No palm oil.

I’m not going to carry on, clearly it is not ‘all’. Not only can you eat a vegan diet without specialist “vegan food”, if you choose to do so, you can avoid palm oil as easily as a meat eater does.

For the cows comment, I recommend talking to vegans as opposed to basing your opinions from advertisements.

YANBU for becoming vegan. It is a legitimate and even admirable choice.

YABU for refusing to pick-up non-vegan products for your family while visiting the shops. I think it is beyond unreasonable.

If your partner was sick and needed a prescription picking up from the pharmacy (74 of the top 100 prescribed drugs in the UK are non-vegan), would you refuse?

Do you boycott shops/pubs/restaurants that sell non-vegan produce?

Tough one. I always had a similar debate with myself when my DP smoked: should I buy his cigarettes at the supermarket? If I didn't, he would jump in the car to go to the shop for them, which inconvenienced both of us. (I'd rather he stuck around to entertain the baby/toddler rather than disappearing off to the shops.) But I didn't want to be promoting his smoking. It felt wrong to buy cigarettes for him.

I never did figure it out.

It's people like you who give vegans a bad name.

poppymaewrite don't you mean your children are forced to comply. I feel sorry for them.

Most soya animal feed is WASTE PRODUCTS that humans can not eat!

If we didnt feed this to animals, it would simply be thrown away. But vegans are very liberal with the truth so they either dont say this or dont know this.

I have been veggie for 27 years, I don't eat soya substitutes, I would buy meat for my family and even prepare it (although no clue about what I am doing with it 😅).

@GTAlogic

Soya production is directly and indirectly causing deforestation in the Amazon rainforest leading to loss of habitat and therefore suffering for plants and animals on a massive scale. For that reason, yabu to avoid buying a few eggs.

About 75% of the soy crop produced in the amazon is used for animal feed. If there were less animals eating less soy, there would be less deforestation.

OP. I agree with you. You've found out something that has given you new morals. You've not refused space for his products in the house. Rightly so. It's fair enough though, that you don't want to be personally involved with them.

@jcyclops

YANBU for becoming vegan. It is a legitimate and even admirable choice.

YABU for refusing to pick-up non-vegan products for your family while visiting the shops. I think it is beyond unreasonable.

If your partner was sick and needed a prescription picking up from the pharmacy (74 of the top 100 prescribed drugs in the UK are non-vegan), would you refuse?

Do you boycott shops/pubs/restaurants that sell non-vegan produce?

Do not worry about the OP's DH's prescriptions. This is what the Vegan Society says:

Medicine
Currently all medicine in the UK must be tested on animals before it is deemed safe for human use, but please note: The Vegan Society DOES NOT recommend you avoid medication prescribed to you by your doctor - a dead vegan is no good to anyone! What you can do is ask your GP or pharmacist to provide you, if possible, with medication that does not contain animal products such as gelatine or lactose. For more information visit the medicines website, which contains information on medicines prescribed in the UK, including ingredients lists.

Yes you would be obscenely unreasonable to literally waste his time when you're going into the shop anyway, to insist on him then going seperately to purchase his meat and eggs. It's literally virtue signalling nonsense. The meat and eggs will be purchased anyway regardless of whether it's you or your husband handing over the money. In the nicest way possible, get a grip.

I agree with you OP. I've recently become a veggie due to similar views. Once I've got to grips with it I intend to go full vegan.

I expect the majority on here will disagree because they are mostly meat eaters, I think you'd find other vegans agree with you.

@OmgIThinkILikeYou

I'd ve annoyed if dp watched a TV show then suddenly we needed to do separate trips to the supermarket and a sad face everytime I ate eggs.

Yeah, I agree with this.

I expect the majority on here will disagree because they are mostly meat eaters, I think you'd find other vegans agree with you

I think there have been a fair few vegans and vegetarians who have disagreed with the OP on this thread

@Superhanz

I agree with you OP. I've recently become a veggie due to similar views. Once I've got to grips with it I intend to go full vegan.

I expect the majority on here will disagree because they are mostly meat eaters, I think you'd find other vegans agree with you.

All the best on your vegan/veggie journeys, Superhanz & OP.

OP, I think vegans’ opinions are most useful to you on this as they’re the ones who will understand where you’re coming from.

I’ve been vegan 15 years and do occasionally pick up eggs for my veggie OH (not milk as he now has plant milk), but I would completely understand if another vegan didn’t want to do the same.

I’m vegan, my husband and dog are not. I do all the food shopping and if I suddenly refused to buy non vegan options for the rest of the household I’d have a sad husband and dog!

All I can ever do is live by my own principles and ethics. I would never push them onto anyone else. It would inconvenience my husband to do his own food shop (he works, I don’t).

I do understand your feelings, but I’m afraid I feel you’re being unreasonable to enforce separate food shops….

Were you vegan when he married you?

This isnt what he signed up for. As a partnership its madness to be having to do separate shopping trips. My DH doesnt use or particularly love buying sanitary towels, but he gets them because I use them.