Who the F**K still thinks voting Tory is a good idea.

[beachcitygirl]

Just that really. Sociopathic Patel refusing visas. In a time where we need leadership & empathy & intelligence there's a ducking idiot at the helm & Rees~Mogg making a fortune with insider trading.
Who the hell will admit to being so sociopathically selffish & grabby to still vote Tory?

There was a thread like this last year and it ran to 1k.

I agree with you but loads of people will come here trying to justify it. They will say nobody else is electable blah blah blah.

It’s is stupid when you have to be earning £80k a year for a Tory government to benefit you. Or if you use public services.

No idea OP. I suppose the incompetence; economic mismanagement; public health disaster; vindictiveness; most pathetically unskilled Cabinet in history; useless, lying Prime Minister; and enormous embarrassment on the international level is somehow appealing to some. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I'm sure a bot will be along soon to Etonsplain it all to us.

I don't vote Tory. But this thread is childish and ridiculous. Half the nation votes Tory more or less. Are you really saying that half the nation are sociopaths? Grabby? Or maybe just a bit thick as they haven't had the insights that you have ?

Are you really saying that half the nation are sociopaths? Grabby? Or maybe just a bit thick as they haven't had the insights that you have ?
Yes. Have you met people? They’re awful.

Yep. The recent elections/ the referendum in 2016 show that a large proportion of people are indeed thick/ uneducated/ ignorant/ incapable of rational thought or even reading well-publicised factual information/ critical thinking/ have no grasp of economics, politicis, law, geopolitics, etc. Look how many people are shocked that there is inflation now, after a pandemic and enormous state spending and now a war in countries that export much fuel and food! 🤣 A lot of people ARE thick, sadly.

Because the rest of them are even worse.

Who should we be voting for?

Morally inferior people way less intelligent and clued up than you OP. That's who. So off you trot to pat yourself firmly on the back for being such an exceptionally wonderful human being.

I don't live in the UK so can't vote there, but despite being a Labor voter in my own country, I could never vote UK Labour. They are stripping women of their rights to safe spaces, their rights to privacy, their rights to dignity. Voting UK Labour would feel like a vote for the ultra far right.

However, I understand it's not compulsory to vote in the UK? (It is compulsory to vote in Australia) So my solution to those like me that would slit their wrists or lay on train tracks before they vote for a woman-hating party in the UK like Labour is simply to not vote at all. If enough ABSTAIN from voting, it will send a message to Labour.

@stuntbubbles

Are you really saying that half the nation are sociopaths? Grabby? Or maybe just a bit thick as they haven't had the insights that you have ? Yes. Have you met people? They’re awful.

^ This I would never vote Tory. I’ll be voting Labour.

Yes I would like to see visas extended to all Ukrainians who are fleeing war. But I’m also happy the government has been flying weapons to Ukraine and training soldiers for months. Whilst Germany only managed to send their 5000 helmets a few days ago (also glad they had a change of heart on weapons). I’m glad the UK government was at the head of pushing for Russia to be kicked out of SWIFT. It gets a lot of stuff horribly wrong but it does some stuff that is good.

I’m also glad that the parties in the UK are standing in solidarity together on this issue.

@stuntbubbles has called it.

The problem is that despite being a member of the Labour Party, I am pretty disillusioned with them right now.

I think that deep down and maybe subconsciously, we all expect the people wearing the poshest suits, with an expensive education behind them, and titles or land, or whatever to be cleverer and the best people to run the show.

Look at the types of things people said about Jeremy Corbyn. Looks like a geography teacher (no posh suit), liberal leftie as a insult.

I think the Tories have a good line on this: we know what we're doing with economy, what would you know Average Joe about trade and GDP and big business and why do you think someone that looks like you, lives like you and wears the clothes you wear would know how to manage that shit if you don't?

And so, they manage to get people to vote for them. It's a massive ruse. But terribly successful.

Yanbu OP. Definitely NBU. I held my nose and voted Labour in the last GE. Didn't like the party but way better than BJ and his dodgy cronies, a party funded by p U t I n's dodgy mates. A party that have emboldened psychopaths.
We will be irreparably damaged by this.

I think I heard that 100,000 + had crossed the channel by boat to reach the UK this year - way up on previous years - errrrrrrr where are we putting all these Ukrainians. There's already little accommodation for the existing regugees/ immigrants.
I'm not saying don't have them but perhaps those ranting against the gov should also add where they are going to live.

I live in a county that has many areas with dyed-in-the-wool Tory voters - they’re either mainly landowners and/or over the age of 65.

It’s utterly depressing

This is the problem with democracy.
Stupid people will insist on voting for the wrong party.

I would vote for any party that can get the NHS to actually function.

@Crookedman

Yes I would like to see visas extended to all Ukrainians who are fleeing war. But I’m also happy the government has been flying weapons to Ukraine and training soldiers for months. Whilst Germany only managed to send their 5000 helmets a few days ago (also glad they had a change of heart on weapons). I’m glad the UK government was at the head of pushing for Russia to be kicked out of SWIFT. It gets a lot of stuff horribly wrong but it does some stuff that is good.

I’m also glad that the parties in the UK are standing in solidarity together on this issue.

Firstly what has Germany sending troops to a 3rd country got to do with how you would vote in a UK election?

Secondly you have a very poor grasp of 20th & 21st century European history if you don't understand why Germany sending troops anywhere post WW2 has not happened & why it is such a big deal to do so now. A god comparator in the infantile We are better than them so nahdiddy nahnah form of World Beating Politics that the Tories spout is not a good basis for choosing who to vote for.

Nobody WANTS to vote Tory or labour, they’re both shit! But you have to pick a side or waste a vote voting for someone who will never get in.

It just depends if you prioritise woman’s rights and paying less tax or the nhs and more help to the unfortunate really, but you also have to swallow all the bad shit that comes with it.

I've never voted Tory in my life (and don't foresee that I will) but I am seriously at a loss politically now.

I was a member of the Labour Party but withdrew due to their revolting treatment of women and lack of understanding of the issues surrounding safe spaces and representation (among other things like the data breach). They would need to be loud and clear in their support of single sex provision for me to even listen to a word they say.

I really hate Tories and their policies, but I will never vote for any of the parties who state TWAW either. I'm left leaning and voted Remain so think that counts out all the options.

@JuneOsborne

I think that deep down and maybe subconsciously, we all expect the people wearing the poshest suits, with an expensive education behind them, and titles or land, or whatever to be cleverer and the best people to run the show.

Look at the types of things people said about Jeremy Corbyn. Looks like a geography teacher (no posh suit), liberal leftie as a insult.

I think the Tories have a good line on this: we know what we're doing with economy, what would you know Average Joe about trade and GDP and big business and why do you think someone that looks like you, lives like you and wears the clothes you wear would know how to manage that shit if you don't?

And so, they manage to get people to vote for them. It's a massive ruse. But terribly successful.

Not everyone who didn’t vote labour in the last election chose to vote for someone else “because Jeremy Corbin looked like a geography teacher” did you ever stop to think that maybe people didn’t agree with his policies.

And just to head this off to, no I didn’t vote for the tortures last time round.

Tories*

You couldn’t pay me enough to vote for Labour.

@Riapia

This is the problem with democracy. Stupid people will insist on voting for the wrong party.

Just because you believe one party to be the right one, doesn't mean it actually is. That's your opinion, everyone else has their own opinions.