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AIBU?

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Adult DC ended up in hospital after night out...AIBU?

183 replies

Athenea · 26/02/2022 11:31

DC (early 20s) went out this week. Didn't come home - which isn't unusual, sometimes crashes at a mates house.

In the morning I get a call from DC, who's in hospital. No idea how they got there, last memory is being in the pub very drunk around 11.30pm, then woke up/ came to in hospital around 5am. Lost their phone (a member of staff kindly allowed them to use their device to call me).

DC eventually made it back from the hospital about 10.30am. Spent most of the day sleeping. Fine now except clearly fell over as cuts and bruises on their face (looks like they've faceplanted something rather than been assaulted or in a fight thankfully). And financially worse off as lost their phone and now have to replace it.

Since lockdown DC has been out a few times and come home in a state but never anything as bad as this.

My partner thinks I should take a firm line and that this is really worrying behaviour, DC clearly doesn't know their limits with alcohol and this is dangerous. At the same time I've got other family saying well it's what young people do...and DC's friends in their group chat are all 'typical you' 'you're such a liability 🤦‍♀️😊' etc. I have explained to DC how upset I was they ended up in hospital - when I got the call in the morning I was nearly sick it made me so anxious - but I don't want to go overboard. I do think it's given DC a wake up call anyway, and I don't want to make it worse.

AIBU not to read the riot act? Or how would you deal with it?

OP posts:
LouisRenault · 26/02/2022 14:32

Also friends were not looking out for them he could have been mugged or worse

Friend went to loo. What was friend supposed to do, insist on DC going with him/her to ensure DC didn't wander off?

It's one thing for friends to all look out for each other on an evening out. It's quite another thing for friends to always be expected to be responsible for one person who makes a habit of this. I'd stop wanting to go out with them if it was a regular thing.

Winter2020 · 26/02/2022 14:35

Estimate the cost to the NHS (with your young person if poss- the doctors/nurses/equipment/premises) and suggest they make a donation to charity. They probably won't but it might get the cogs turning.

My relative went to A&E last night with pain and did not stay for scans etc as so busy they would not have been seen in any reasonable period.

Yes young people make mistakes but best to make sure they learn from it as a mistake like this could end up fatal.

derxa · 26/02/2022 14:42

I'd just be glad they're still alive.

CPGyellowwallpaper · 26/02/2022 14:54

Yes getting drunk is typical late teen behaviour (although I know plenty of people 40+ who don't know when to stop).

Being so drunk that you have no recollection of the best part of 6 hours is very concerning.

Having had my drink spiked in my mid 20's I can say that for it to be total black-out for that tome frame the chances are alcohol is not the only thing in your dc's system.

2bazookas · 26/02/2022 14:55

I have explained to DC how upset I was they ended up in hospital - when I got the call in the morning I was nearly sick it made me so anxious - but I don't want to go overboard.

You feeling upset and sick is entirely beside the point. It's NOT ABOUT YOU.

Your child could have died last night. From alcohol poisoning, from injuries , from high risk behaviour when off his face on booze or drugs or both.

Next time, he might die. This might be your ONE, LAST chance to "Go overboard" . So, don't hold back. Do EVERYTHING you can to prevent him dying from drunk stupidity.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 26/02/2022 14:58

Well, most of us go through a stage where we have far too much to drink, sometimes more than once, maybe have no recollection what we did for an hour or so, and spend the next day vomiting and regretting it, then end up doing it again a few months later. Most of us grow out of that pattern of behaviour - it is very juvenile.

It's quite another thing to be losing hours and hours from your memory and waking up injured in hospital with property missing. That's fairly extreme really, and when I see that happening on documentaries I certainly don't go all nostalgic and think "aaah, poor lad, we've all been there". I just think "Jesus Christ, how awful to get in that state". Very occasionally it's obvious that it's a one off and the person is horrified and ashamed, but usually it's clear it's not the first time they've ended up like that and won't be the last. I guess you just don't know yet which camp they fall into.

I will say, though, that I know someone who has had a horrible relationship with alcohol since he started drinking in his youth (mid teens, he had older brothers and just joined in with how they were behaving I think). He also got a reputation amongst his friends for going over the top with drinking, like your DC, OP. So many photos of him just in a state at parties when everyone else is just "normal drunk" and smiling at the camera.
He's past the age of 40 now and over the years it has caused multiple problems in relationships, both with partners and the wider family. Even when he was done for drink driving (he claims he wasn't actually driving, just sitting in his car listening to music with someone Hmm) he didn't moderate his behaviour. He ended up falling down the stairs drunk at a party and taken to the same A&E dept where he worked. The irony. Can't imagine the shame. And despite the fact that he could have quite easily killed himself and left his 2 kids without a dad, still it carried on, I believe, and he ended up getting divorced from his wife (was blame on both sides, it wasn't just because of the drinking).

I THINK he has just grown out of it a bit now, but god, he's mid 40s so he's spent a lot of his adulthood nearly killing himself or causing issues for others.

What I'm trying to say is that even though he dealt with drunks in A&E himself, it didn't stop him ending up as one himself. If a person has a problem with alcohol then they have a problem they can't control, and they don't think of how their behaviour impacts on others. They just want to drink what they want and act how they want. Unless someone pulls them up on it, they're just going to carry on like that. The person I know and his brothers ALL had a problem relationship with alcohol over the years, and I do believe that it's because their parents had a "boys will be boys" type of eye roll kind of reaction to it, and a "that's just what teenagers DO" kind of mentality. They bailed them out when things went wrong. No-one gave them a bollocking. So of course they all just carried on, thinking it was all ok, how they were behaving. 3 divorced, 1 didn't but it came v close and things only changed after an ultimatum by his wife, which she had never given before and never would again - this was his one and ONLY chance to change, and she meant it.e

You DO need to bollock your DC, when they're out of their hangover. Tell them that this is not a bollocking from a parent to a child, this is a bollocking from an adult to another adult and that this is NOT normal behaviour as most people go out and drink without ended up in A&E. If they don't concede that it isn't normal, they are in denial and you can probably expect drinking issues further along the line. If they do agree that it's not normal and are horrified at themselves, then ask what their plan is for how they will avoid getting in that state again, and if they need any support from you to do it.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 26/02/2022 15:00

@derxa

I'd just be glad they're still alive.
Therein lies the problem - when no-one wants to bollock them because they're so grateful they haven't done themselves any worse damage. It's minimising it.
CurlyhairedAssassin · 26/02/2022 15:03

@ThumbWitchesAbroad

I have a friend who, years ago, I took to and from a party that we both attended. As designated driver, I of course wasn't drinking - but she was. I took her home afterwards, left her at her gate and went home. Next morning, I got a phonecall from her mother asking me to go round.

Friend had several cuts and bruises on her face, looked like she'd been beaten up - her mother asked me who had done this to her?
I said she was fine when I dropped her off (she was!)

Turned out she'd almost certainly faceplanted on the path going up to her front door, not realised, gone to bed and woken up next morning looking awful - and she had zero recollection of that happening! One of her knees was hurt too, which helped us work out what was the most likely scenario.

After this, she realised she had a drinking problem and went to the GP, who told her that, while she wasn't yet an alcoholic, if she carried on that way she might become one. She cut back on her drinking and, to my knowledge, has never been in such a state since.

I've always waited till whoever I've dropped off has got safely through their door and the door has closed. It's up to whoever is inside the house to be responsible for them then. (That's also applied to children's friends who I've dropped off when they've been mid-teens.) Anything could happen otherwise, they may not have their key, or they could be fumbling around after you've gone and someone could attack or rob them on their doorstep. etc etc.
LowlandLucky · 26/02/2022 15:06

Time he grew up. He is lucky he woke up at all, ask him to think about that.

1forAll74 · 26/02/2022 15:07

Probably no use reading the riot act to him at this age, he should now be at the age, to know how a big boozing session, can cause all sorts of problems to himself, and can cause a whole lot of worry for parents. He should be feeling guilty now causing worry to people, and feeling bad about going to hospital, because many young drunken people end up there, and have to be dealt with by nurses and doctors, who are fed up with these kinds of patients turning up.

He needs some self control it seems.

OneMoreHobnobPlease · 26/02/2022 15:08

I just wanted to point out that Men are also at risk of being spiked too.

My DS and all his (Male) friends have been spiked (not on the same night) - so that's 8 or 9 of them. His experience is very very similar to what you've described, so I wouldn't dismiss it straight away.

Chocaholic9 · 26/02/2022 15:09

I'd take this quite seriously. It sounds like they had a spiked drink?

Sazzlepop22 · 26/02/2022 15:13

Does DC drink to boost confidence or something? Definitely more to it than being young and not knowing their limits.
Maybe they need to talk to an impartial person about why they get so drunk. Friends commenting that it's typical behaviour is worrying.
Getting hospitalised is a big deal. This young person needs help.

ThunderSnowDrop · 26/02/2022 15:15

I agree this the extreme end of the getting drunk spectrum.
Time to address it.

Steelesauce · 26/02/2022 15:16

As an ex a&e nurse, mine would be read the riot act.

Fair enough they get off their face and I look after them at home, they would just get audible disapproval from me, but I've done it myself. To end up in hospital would make me very cross at the absolute waste of time they have caused.

ThunderSnowDrop · 26/02/2022 15:17

Most mates will make light of this.

Wnkingawalrus · 26/02/2022 15:23

Oh come on, its very normal for that age, I'm sure we all did it , I know I certainly did as many friends at 19/20/21 and I don't have drinking problem!
My own teens have done it too, not ideal but it happens.

It is not absolutely normal to end up in hospital with no recollection of what happened across a 6 hour period.

I’d class me and my social circle as pretty big drinkers and I don’t think any of us ever ended up in hospital. Plenty of puking, falling over, etc but I don’t recall any hospital visits.

Ellmau · 26/02/2022 15:23

Your DC has a drink problem, I'm afraid.

I wouldn't precisely read the riot act, that rarely helps, but a serious sit down talk is in order.

PinkSyCo · 26/02/2022 15:24

Yes going out getting pissed is what most young people do, but drinking so much that you end up in hospital with cuts and bruises and no idea of what happened the night before is not normal. Your DS needs to understand that his behaviour is not funny or clever, no matter what his friends think, so yes I would be reading him the riot act. Act like a child get treated like one in my book.

Goldenharp · 26/02/2022 15:25

S/he really should decide how much s/he can drink and then know to stop. I assume somebody drunk is much easier to spike too. My 20 year old son sometimes has a glass of wine with dinner - he soon worked out that he should stick to one drink. My grandfather was probably an alcoholic and there were other heavy drinkers in the family. My father hardly ever had alcohol as a reaction to his father's drinking. I have tried to make my children aware that alcohol is something we have to be careful about. My eldest is completely tee-total. I could see my wine consumption had been creeping up and my husband and I decided to both cut down and have a limited number of days on which we would have alcohol and it was limited to one glass of wine per evening on those evenings. I think it's all about having set limits - you get to it and you stop.

AndNowNo · 26/02/2022 15:25

@Frazzled50yrold

I used to volunteer in a night-time SOS bus and we'd have dealt with at least 10 young people like this every night. Young people who urinated and defecated on themselves and were hugely at risk of assault and all sorts of dangers. I'd really recommend volunteering on that type of project, it was eye opening.We had quite a few young volunteers and they learnt so much from the experience.
I thoroughly agree with this. It's such an eye-opener to be on the other side. You don't know what state you're in until you've seen others like it and it's mortifying.

And DC shouldn't be taking a much needed NHS bed.

That's pure selfishness.

And mention the poor lad that got very drunk and ended up getting into a dumpster and then probably got crushed to death at a refuse processing plant, somewhere up in the north of England. Such a sad story.

Yes it's unlikely to happen but in that sort of state you can do some very stupid things. DC is lucky it wasn't worse.

WhackingPhoenix · 26/02/2022 15:26

Interesting that most people have decided OP has a male child, and are only talking about spiking being a problem for women.

I think OP’s child was either spiked, or fell whilst not actually that drunk and suffered a concussion. We’re all allowed to enjoy a drink, and I say this as a nurse who has had to deal with drunk people.

PinkSyCo · 26/02/2022 15:31

I think OP’s child was either spiked, or fell whilst not actually that drunk and suffered a concussion. We’re all allowed to enjoy a drink, and I say this as a nurse who has had to deal with drunk people.

Wouldn’t they have been drug tested in hospital as a matter of course if they were in that bad a state?

Ohmybod · 26/02/2022 15:38

Your choices are not just to either read the riot act or do nothing. You can chat to your DC adult to adult and explain your concerns and ask them is everything is ok. I wish I’d had a bit more guidance around responsible drinking in my 20s. My mates used to also say I was a liability and I was known as “the faller” on nights on. I cringe now. It took a breakdown and therapy for me to look at my drinking habits and realise it was all about masking feelings. Long story short, look after your DC and offer support and not judgement.

Loopytiles · 26/02/2022 15:38

Spiking is a possibility, but alcohol alone is far more likely.