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Is the UK in danger from Russia?

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hereforalongtimenotagoodtime · 24/02/2022 21:58

Keep receiving conflicting information. I am sick to my stomach and quite simply hate the unknown. So a simple question - is it likely that the UK will be in danger from Russia? And if so what does that look like? Cyber attacks, bombs being dropped?

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marieantoinehairnet · 28/02/2022 12:43

Now tell me Liz Truss shouldn't STFU!!

"There had been statements by various representatives at various levels about possible conflict situations and even collisions and clashes between Nato and the Russian Federation," said Dmitry Peskov, spokesman for Vladimir Putin.
"We consider such statements absolutely unacceptable. I will not name the authors of these statements, although it was the British foreign secretary."
It's not clear which comments by Truss the Russian government objects to, although on Sunday she said she would support individuals from the UK joining an international force to fight for Ukraine.

Whammyyammy · 28/02/2022 15:05

@RedToothBrush

It is so very unlikely to happen that it is not worth wasting energy worrying about it.

I think more to the point, if it happens there's really fuck all you are going to be able to do to protect yourself anyway.

You either die in it or survive and face utter chaos and panic or die in the aftermath.

Not sure I much fancy any of those options tbh.

This I don't think it will happen. Both the U.S and Russia have circa 4500 nuclear war heads each, then add what warheads are in the Eu/uk to that total. If nukes were launched, there would not be a planet left.🤷‍♂️
RoseRedRoseBlue · 28/02/2022 18:56

@marieantoinehairnet I am happy to tell, you that she shouldn’t STFU. We have to stand up to these barbaric acts.

youhadmeatjello · 28/02/2022 20:16

Im very much struggling today (I have generalised anxiety disorder) but can’t stay away from the news. Trying not to panic but it just seems to get worse and worse and I’m struggling to see any positives or hope.
Some of these posts and the ones on the invasion threads are helping keep me somewhat balanced though.
Mainly I’m terrified for toddler DS. I am so devastated for the parents and children of Ukraine and every time I see footage or pictures I imagine it being DS. I’ve donated and am also sorting out childrens clothes that the Red Cross is asking for in our area to be sent over.
Just feel so helpless and like it’s getting more likely that something (even more) drastic will happen but I can’t trust my own very anxious mind at the moment.

Chocolattay · 28/02/2022 20:31

This whole thing has made DH finally get around to watching Threads, he’s brought it on Amazon and is watching it as we speak. I’ve had to leave the room.

Shuuu · 28/02/2022 20:39

@youhadmeatjello

Im very much struggling today (I have generalised anxiety disorder) but can’t stay away from the news. Trying not to panic but it just seems to get worse and worse and I’m struggling to see any positives or hope. Some of these posts and the ones on the invasion threads are helping keep me somewhat balanced though. Mainly I’m terrified for toddler DS. I am so devastated for the parents and children of Ukraine and every time I see footage or pictures I imagine it being DS. I’ve donated and am also sorting out childrens clothes that the Red Cross is asking for in our area to be sent over. Just feel so helpless and like it’s getting more likely that something (even more) drastic will happen but I can’t trust my own very anxious mind at the moment.
This ^^ I’m terrified too but bounce between “he won’t to “he will” Sad
HighlandCowbag · 28/02/2022 20:46

Fucking hell, Threads is awful. I watched it in year 7 many years ago, just before the 87 storm, thought the button had been pressed. Then covered it again last year for uni, in lockdown.

I definitely won't be watching it anytime soon Shock.

The whole situation is a fucking shit show, as much as I feel sorry for Ukraine,selfishly I am praying the EU doesn't let them join, I can't see how that would be less inflammatory than joining NATO.

Chocolattay · 28/02/2022 20:54

He’s never seen it before but has always been meaning to. Of course he has to put it on now 🙄

user1481055867 · 28/02/2022 20:58

@hereforalongtimenotagoodtime

I was watching russian speaking independent channel "Дождь" yes one exists and member of Russian duma was going through how Britain they refer to it as "Туманный альбион/Foggy albion" was always an enemy going back when Geroge the V didnt help Romanovs escape yet kept the gold, to Liz Truss - who he also thought talks a lot of bs to Boris Johnson.I dont think they will nuke, but Putin is insane now and nobody in his circle dare to oppose him.He is humiliated by failure to capture Kiev in 3 days and growing desperate.Only powerful oligarchs can stop him as they are speaking up against the war openly, which is punishable in Russia, means they are not afraid and will be willing to act.

Notanotherwindow · 28/02/2022 21:05

If Boris keeps making threats then it's highly likely we will be nuked.

It is NOT highly likely we will be nuked. For starters we would retaliate swiftly and even if we were somehow unable to, Russia would then have America to contend with who would retaliate on our behalf.

He won't strike first against a NATO country. Its literally suicide. He's batshit crazy but he's not stupid. If it went nuclear there is no version where Russia walks away.

Libraryghost · 28/02/2022 21:15

So many appeasers on Mumsnet. It embarrassing, worried about upsetting Putin because they think it will make things worse. Go back to basics, what do you tell your kids? You stand up to a bully because it will only get worse if you don't. Putin is a bully and trying not to upset him is as stupid as trying to be nice to the Yorkshire ripper and hoping he won't stick a hammer in your head. I hope Boris appears on telly and threatens to stick a rocket launcher up Putins arse. For anyone who thinks appeasement works, have a read about Hitler and 'peace in our time'

Libraryghost · 28/02/2022 21:19

The ogliarchs and the Russian mafia will bring Putin down. Their villas and handbags are being threatened. Nobody loves their luxury goods as much as the Russians, except perhaps those vulgar Dubai wankers. A criminal will sort Putin out then Russia will descend back into the days of the 1990s. A power struggle and mafia wars.

Lia198 · 28/02/2022 21:22

@youhadmeatjello

Im very much struggling today (I have generalised anxiety disorder) but can’t stay away from the news. Trying not to panic but it just seems to get worse and worse and I’m struggling to see any positives or hope. Some of these posts and the ones on the invasion threads are helping keep me somewhat balanced though. Mainly I’m terrified for toddler DS. I am so devastated for the parents and children of Ukraine and every time I see footage or pictures I imagine it being DS. I’ve donated and am also sorting out childrens clothes that the Red Cross is asking for in our area to be sent over. Just feel so helpless and like it’s getting more likely that something (even more) drastic will happen but I can’t trust my own very anxious mind at the moment.
I also have generalised anxiety disorder (that I was finally doing quite well in managing) and this whole thing has made me feel really ill. I feel guilty for bringing children into this horrible world. I don’t know how to make myself relax, I feel on edge 24/7 Although some of the rational comments on here def do help give me some comfort (thank you).
youhadmeatjello · 28/02/2022 22:32

@Lia198 sympathy it’s hideous isn’t it. We were watching a film tonight and I was looking around the room trying to work out what furniture we could use to put up against the windows and patio doors in the event of a nuclear strike. I can’t tell the rational from the irrational at the moment - usually I can managed my anxiety as I can recognise the irrational thoughts but right now it’s hard as everyone seems pretty anxious.

I’m having a cup of herbal tea and trying to get an early night instead of doom scrolling all night. I’m feeling very guilty about bringing DS into this world too, I love him more than life itself but what is happening in the world right now is beyond bleak.
I think I need to remember that although this is a scary situation a lot of my physical reaction and constant dread is down to my anxiety diagnosis.

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