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To think some mnetters are deliberately obtuse

244 replies

Soubriquet · 21/02/2022 10:23

I’m not talking about those who English is a second language but words or phrases which are said by an OP, which may not be 100% clear, but by taking in the entire post, it’s clear what the OP means.

Some posters have to reply saying “xxx. What does xxx mean? I don’t understand”

When it’s cleared up, they have to return to say “oh. I only know it by it’s proper name yyy. I can’t bear people saying xxx”

OP posts:
BearOfEasttown · 21/02/2022 20:25

Boys keep swinging - David Bowie
Boys - 'Britney'
Boys are back in town - Thin Lizzy
Boys of Summer - Bryan Adams
Let's here it for the Boy - Deniece Williams
Where the Boys are - Connie Francis
Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy - Andrews Sisters
Rude Boy - Rihanna
The Boy Is Mine - Brandy and Monica
Boys don't cry - The Cure
Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy - Queen
Good Boys - Blondie
The boy with the thorn in his side - The Smiths
American Boy - Estelle and Kanye
Boys Boys Boys - Lady Gaga
Black Eyed Boy - Texas
One of the boys - Katie Perry

Just a small sample of songs with the word BOY in that is NOT about a child, or anyone under 18.

Do you have a problem with this @AuntieStella or is it just people calling 'grown women' GIRLS? that you have an issue with? Wink

Even right now, I am watching Bradley and Barney Walsh on ITV, and THREE TIMES in just 5 minutes, the narrator has referred to them as 'the boys...' Bradley is in his SIXTIES.

So it baffles me why anyone has an issue with posters calling grown women GIRLS, (and implies something nasty along with it.) I think it's very odd actually, and speaks volumes about how their mind works.

Stravaig · 21/02/2022 20:28

@JenniferWooley Oh, I was thinking more when it's applied to women who're quick-witted or wielding power, to denigrate them. Swearing absolutely contextual, sometimes it's just punctuation! Haven't got a feel for MN yet ...

AllOfUsAreDead · 21/02/2022 20:28

@DrSbaitso

As you point out yourself, there's not just one conversation in this thread. And considering there hadn't been an actual dictionary definition made of the words that confused you, it was pretty clear I wasn't meaning them.

Well clear to most I should say. Smile

OnaBegonia · 21/02/2022 20:30

My pet hate is the 'only London exists' posters, I think the complete lack of any knowledge of a turn of phrase or commonality in Scotland or even N.England and is met with confusion or 'is English not your 1st language?' is often fake, nobody can be that lacking in general knowledge.
One pp recently claimed only a non english speaker would say pal for a friend and had never heard it used 🙄

Thoosa · 21/02/2022 20:32

@OnaBegonia

My pet hate is the 'only London exists' posters, I think the complete lack of any knowledge of a turn of phrase or commonality in Scotland or even N.England and is met with confusion or 'is English not your 1st language?' is often fake, nobody can be that lacking in general knowledge. One pp recently claimed only a non english speaker would say pal for a friend and had never heard it used 🙄
It’s class, not just region, but yes.
JenniferWooley · 21/02/2022 20:35

@Stravaig get out while you still can 🤣🤣 I've been here for a few years & still don't have a feel for Mumsnet

DrSbaitso · 21/02/2022 20:39

[quote AllOfUsAreDead]@DrSbaitso

As you point out yourself, there's not just one conversation in this thread. And considering there hadn't been an actual dictionary definition made of the words that confused you, it was pretty clear I wasn't meaning them.

Well clear to most I should say. Smile[/quote]
Oh for...

Like I said, you seemed to be insulting everyone with the wretched dictionary definition stuff as a mere example. You said it right after nippy woowoo, a phrase that's now going to haunt my nightmares. It was not entirely clear to all of us whether we were being insulted as well. If it makes you feel better, I'm very clear that you're insulting me now, and I'm very sorry I ever asked. Flaming Nora.

I'd hang on to this if it was an important discussion, but it's people insulting my intelligence over nippy woowoos and wondering if DrSbaitso is a real doctor. This is bloody Pythonesque and I think I need to stop feeding this particular beast.

Westfacing · 21/02/2022 20:46

@CarrieMoonbeams

I worked with someone who phoned in sick because she had, and I quote, "a nippy woowoo". Our male boss didn't have a clue what she was talking about, unsurprisingly.
You make him sound unreasonable! Grin
AllOfUsAreDead · 21/02/2022 20:48

@DrSbaitso

Least you'll always remember nippy woo woo. 😂

DrSbaitso · 21/02/2022 20:48

@Westfacing, just don't go there. Take it from me. Run while you still can. It's too late for me but you can still save yourself!!!

Stravaig · 21/02/2022 20:49

@JenniferWooley Runs for the hills!
(I'm a long Covid person, so in truth I'm practicing reading, writing, engaging - cognitive rehabilitation of a sort. I've only lurked once in blue moon before.)

EddyF · 21/02/2022 20:49

I think it’s because they think that’s how middle class people act so spend all their time on forums looking for incorrect grammar/spelling mistakes etc. They’re extremely try hard and end up looking foolish/sad little life. They will derail a thread where someone is in distressed because I truly believe they are unhappy with their self and the anonymous world of the internet, they can be anyone they like. They are cowards and would never behave that in real life where their arse would be handed to them.

NatriumChloride · 21/02/2022 21:00

@JustLyra

Yes, there are some people who just like to stick the boot in.

I'll never forget the thread with a woman who'd been physically and sexually assaulted by her partner and had realised she was in a really sticky financial situation because when they bought their house they didn't protect her deposit.

She said brought instead of bought. It was very obvious what she meant and she was obviously very upset. Yet some tosser still felt the need to say "Brought? Where did you bring the house?"

What??! 😱 What an arsewipe.
DillonPanthersTexas · 21/02/2022 21:11

"Nippy woo woo"

A Bond henchmen?
A WWF wrestler?
An owl from Tokyo?

DrSbaitso · 21/02/2022 21:21

@DillonPanthersTexas

"Nippy woo woo"

A Bond henchmen?
A WWF wrestler?
An owl from Tokyo?

No! Stay away! You don't know what you're dealing with!!!!
Theunamedcat · 21/02/2022 21:25

Anyone else lost as to what this thread was supposed to be about? Between nippy woowoo my door my phone and my food I'm lost

DrSbaitso · 21/02/2022 21:30

@Theunamedcat

Anyone else lost as to what this thread was supposed to be about? Between nippy woowoo my door my phone and my food I'm lost
It was about MNers being obtuse.

There was a lengthy discussion about the correct use of the word "girl".

Someone mentioned "nippy woowoo". A few of us asked wtf. (It was cystitis.)

Someone came in and said there were thick people on the thread.

A couple of us asked if she meant the ones asking about nippy woowoo.

Turned out she didn't, but by asking, we were clearly showing ourselves to be thick, so there you go.

It's also about correcting spelling and grammar at incredibly inappropriate times when such mistakes don't matter.

TL;DR: Nippy woowoo.

Stravaig · 21/02/2022 21:40

The OU runs a free Scots Language & Culture course, for those who'd like to expand their linguistic horizons. No idea if nippy, baffies, or stravaig are covered but lots else will be - Scots Leid course.

And given the properly wild storms down South, Here's the Weather by Stuart Paterson; and here's the spoken version complete with subtitles :)

Stravaig · 21/02/2022 21:44

And for the sheer joy of seeing one of our gorgeous languages in print -

Here's the Weather by Stuart A. Paterson

Today in London, the weather man speaks
of damp & of cold. In Scotland it’s dreich
with outbreaks of smirr, the occasional hoolie,
advice in the papers to look oot yer woolies,
a sudden dramatic surge & spike
in the sales of three-tiered winterdykes,
the urge to girn & to haiver & blether
carnaptious, forfochen & scunnert by weather,
dance round the double-edged sword of fash,
dinged doon by the elements, loving stramash
and the trauchle of baltic , foonert & droukit
fair molocates fears ye’re a diddy or stupid,
yer puckle concerns on the £ or on Brexit.
It’s the cant o the climate & aabody gets it
eeksie-peeksie, we mump & we greet & we tyauve it
fae Lerwick tae Perth, fae Kirkcaldy tae Hawick,
gan on how we hadnae a summer, it’s affy
and on wi the thermals & semmits & baffies,
gan oot for the messages, endin up pecht
wi the hail turravee, it’s a gey sair fecht
against pavements like ice rinks & wrasslin wi wind
and the nights that forever are fair drawin in,
shilpit & footerin & plooterin awa
through the dubs & the glaur & the clart & the snaw,
stravaigin through cundies & sheughs, a galoot
wi yer brolly destroyed & yer breeks hingin oot,
the haar & the virr & the flaggies & spitters,
the snell air that skelps ye & gies ye the chitters,
that makes ye doolally & drives ye tae swally
and sunbeds & creams tae be less peely-wally.
It’s the weather of language, the language of weather
penning us, writing us all in together,
the patter like watter that aabody kens
fae schemes tae the islands, fae high-rise tae glen.
Fae stooshie tae fankle tae bouroch tae dreck
we’re steeped in the downpour of dialect
which foosts & bumbazes & shoogles & heezes,
skites, dights, invites us, unites us & frees us.

OopsadayZ · 21/02/2022 22:22

WTAF!! I'd never have got tangerines from tangies in a million years!

I do find some people don't realise that not everyone uses the same words for things though & just use their commonly used word thinking everyone will understand - I wouldn't post asking for advice on which baffies to buy because 99.99% of Mumsnet wouldn't have a clue what I was on about!

@JenniferWooley but baffies is regional dialect (meaning slippers) so I understand you not using it, but it's an actual word...whereas tangies if made up!

ThinWomansBrain · 21/02/2022 22:27

I'm away to eat an orange. (I love a good orgy)
well have an apple as well - and have an 'appy time at the orgy

Bromse · 22/02/2022 05:24

Volvos are very comfortable and have great acceleration.

Ineedaduvetday · 22/02/2022 06:00

@SleepOhHowIMissYou

Warning for swearing but this is pretty spot on.
@SleepOhHowIMissYou Thanks for sharing, really funny 😂
KatherineJaneway · 22/02/2022 06:15

Well, this is one that I have a bit of a problem with. I think it has been a very uphill struggle for women to get to the point where they have proper names for their body parts and can say them without obfuscation. I think it's really important for young girls to hear the proper words.

It's not up to you to tell other women what words to use.

KatherineJaneway · 22/02/2022 06:16

@CarrieMoonbeams

I worked with someone who phoned in sick because she had, and I quote, "a nippy woowoo". Our male boss didn't have a clue what she was talking about, unsurprisingly.
I'd have had no idea either. Nippy to me means cold.