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Can’t forgive MIL aibu?

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Bluffysummers · 20/02/2022 15:02

For transparency I’ve also posted in relationships but I’m posting here for traffic because she’s expected around in the next 15 mins.

I really need some tips on how to deal with my MIL, she’s visiting today and honestly my patience with her is so thin the thought of her visiting makes me tense.

Just so y’all don’t think I’m one of those mean DIL this is why.

I’m a white Muslim dh is south Asian. We met fell in love and wanted to marry. The diatribe I’ve had from her about this in the beginning was unreal I’ve been called a kafir (disbeliever) because I’m white, told I have no family values and that I’m a gold digger. I continued to make an effort and put all this down to ignorance, she’d basically be hot and cold, one day nice and the next she’d refuse to engage with me and let her in her. By making an effort I mean taking her on days out, treating her to lunch, cooking dinner for her etc. I felt it was thrown back in my face and it did hurt my feelings. It came to a head over 2 things, a family wedding (split strictly men women) and none do the women would let me sit down for food, including her, I’d approach a chair and they’d put their bag there or say this seat is taken etc. It was very mean girls ‘you can’t sit with us’ and then secondly when dh and I had plans with my parents and she didn’t like it so pretended to her extended family she was dying and got them all to call us and basically give us a telling off for leaving her alone. From then I could take no more and went NC. There is more she had a temper tantrum when we bought our house because it was too far from her (20’mins).

I swept this all under the rug and went clean slate when dc was born. She wanted to babysit dc when we wfh, wanted to actually begged. She’d come to our house to do it. Behind our backs she’s been making nasty comments about our house, of course it got back to me but the big issue for me was she was basically neglecting dd. DD is a v warm little girl and loves everyone but she actively hates MIL, she sees her and will burst into tears. V strange. At first we thought it was the language barrier but she’s met other people who speak no English and is fine with them. By contrast when she sees MIL even via face time she bursts into tears and cries no no no. Often MIL would leave her in a soiled nappy (a few times we’d give the benefit of the doubt as we’ve all missed one here and there ), would sit in doors all day, no Interaction with dd I’d come down and she’d just be watching her tv shows (mil) and dd would be playing alone, wouldn’t open windows when it’s hot, wouldn’t fill up her drink, I was working through lunch once and then heard an argument and MIL behind dh back when he popped to the loo forcefed dd spicy food and it triggered a huge food aversion (didn’t even apolgise, just said well she needs to know she’s Asian not white). When dd was learning to walk heard her scream and was on the floor crying when we came down, MIL refused to say what happened, managed to get it out of her she slipped and hit her head she wouldn’t say what surface she fell onto (tile big problem for under / carpet not so much) . Dd was also so unhappy, crying and crying banging on doors trying to get away , had to battle with dh to cut the babysitting he kept on giving her the benefit of the doubt but to put a child in danger is unacceptable. I just can’t get passed it.

When ds was born she also had another tantrum because we didn’t let her name him and gave him a disgusting English name (according to her).

Honestly I’m not keen for more contact with dcs but dh still wants some only supervised contact. But I’m still quite angry. She’s done a few other bits too, like ruin DDs bday day out on asking to come, making us pay and then moaning and wanting to go home after an hour.

For context she doesn’t work, dh has paid for her since he was 17 years old. Chauffeured her around. What she wanted was me to move into her house and give up work and then buy a bigger house in the same area for us all to live in.

I guess what I’m asking for is how would you manage this, im happy to hear if im being pfb which is what she said I was but I don’t think I am

Am I being petty and unreasonable because I’m really struggling to move past how she treated dd and how she acted when ds was born?

OP posts:
PeacefulPrune · 20/02/2022 15:44

The reaction your DD is having to you MIL should not be ignored. She should feel safe in her own home, you should not be enablers. if you absolutely have to I'd have the 1 hour meet up somewhere out so that at least your DD can feel safe at home.

Bluffysummers · 20/02/2022 15:48

@GabriellaMontez

When you say 'force fed'. Do you actually mean this? Because if so, yes that's abuse and I wouldn't have her in the house.
I mean pressuring her to eat it and it wasn’t something on her plate
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Bluffysummers · 20/02/2022 15:49

@PeacefulPrune

The reaction your DD is having to you MIL should not be ignored. She should feel safe in her own home, you should not be enablers. if you absolutely have to I'd have the 1 hour meet up somewhere out so that at least your DD can feel safe at home.
That was the plan but the storm scuppered that
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Saharafordessert · 20/02/2022 15:49

Absolutely meet with her on neutral ground eg cafe/soft play.
Your home is your sanctuary and safe space, she should not be part of that.

Bluffysummers · 20/02/2022 15:51

Next month, we’ll do it in a coffee shop / soft play. I should have insisted today got cancelled

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Bromse · 20/02/2022 15:58

I've known many Muslims, men and women, gone to weddings, etc. I have never come across someone as mean as your mother in law. It is just not right. As for the women at the wedding not allowing you to sit with them - appalling; her not caring properly for her granddaughter - appalling.

Supervised time with the children only and - you go somewhere else. As long as your husband is there, they will be all right (I assume).

It's all strange to me. Ultimately she will be the loser. I find myself hoping she is old but I suppose she isn't.

ScreamingBeans · 20/02/2022 15:58

She abused your child.

Of course you're not being unreasonable.

She sounds like an absolutely vile woman and you owe her nothing.

Nothing.

Toanewstart23 · 20/02/2022 15:59

Not once
Not once on your op
Do you describe your partners view on it

2bazookas · 20/02/2022 16:00

I suggest you get some concealed home cameras and find out exactly what she's doing to the children when she thinks nobody's looking.

If your (obvious) suspicions are correct then DH will surely go NC.

ChargingBuck · 20/02/2022 16:04

@2bazookas

I suggest you get some concealed home cameras and find out exactly what she's doing to the children when she thinks nobody's looking.

If your (obvious) suspicions are correct then DH will surely go NC.

I don't think pegging the child out as lion bait is the way to go @2bazookas
Toanewstart23 · 20/02/2022 16:06

@2bazookas

I suggest you get some concealed home cameras and find out exactly what she's doing to the children when she thinks nobody's looking.

If your (obvious) suspicions are correct then DH will surely go NC.

Seriously? WTF
PickleChoo · 20/02/2022 16:08

OP force feeding isn't negligence it is abuse!
Not providing interaction or drinks and leaving her soiled is negligent also.

No wonder your poor DD is shit scared of her.

I would not let someone who abused my DD be anywhere near her, supervised or not

Migrainesbythedozen · 20/02/2022 16:09

How can you do this to your poor innocent little girl? How can you do this and look yourself in the mirror? You are allowing your daughter to be abused, and for that, you shouldn't forgive yourself! How can you allow her anywhere near your daughter? Your daughter is TERRIFIED of her! Your MIL has clearly been hitting/abusing your child for her to act like that! For goodness sake, your daughter is crying for your help and you are ignoring her and forcing her to spend 3 hours a month with the one person she is TERRIFIED of? What is wrong with you? Your daughter is desperately trying to tell you she doesn't want to see or spend any time with your MIL. She is asking you for help. She is crying out for help and you are forcing her to spend time with her abuser. How can you do that to an innocent little girl? How can you betray her like that? How can your heart not break at your daughter's distress, and stand by and force her to go through it every month?

You should immediately go NO CONTACT. And have your daughter never ever see MIL again. If your husband disagrees you LEAVE HIM! You make him understand that your little girl is being abused by MIL and even supervised visits with the one person that terrorises her is too much. When she is much older you could try again/let her decide. But your daughter is banging on doors, doing anything she is that desperate to get away from her abuser. You are telling her that her comfort is not important, and your 'D'Hs image within his family is more important than her safety, her comfort and her feelings. Tell your husband NC and your daughter is not having contact with MIL again, and if he doesn't agree, your marriage is over. If you don't, you are no better than her abuser and not a true mother because you will not stand up for your daughter's rights and psychological and emotional wellbeing. I am horrified that you are allowing this person anywhere near your child ever again and you, her advocate, won't stand up for her.

Bromse · 20/02/2022 16:09

I wouldn't blame the op and people do that with nannies; however I got the impression MIL no longer does day care and has supervised contact only.

Migrainesbythedozen · 20/02/2022 16:13

@Bluffysummers

Next month, we’ll do it in a coffee shop / soft play. I should have insisted today got cancelled
No! You are still not getting it. It needs to be CANCELLED PERMANENTLY!!
Migrainesbythedozen · 20/02/2022 16:14

Supervised contact is not an answer. This child is in severe distress at spending any time with the MIL, supervised or unsupervised. This child needs her parents to listen to her and act for her comfort and interests. This little girl doesn't want to spend any time with the MIL. Regardless of supervised or not.

Eightiesfan · 20/02/2022 16:17

OP, your MIL is abusing your DD, children do not kick up that kind of fuss for no reason. I would not be allowing her access to my children or into my house. If DH wants to see her he should go to her house. You have bent over backwards for this woman and she has no respect for you, your marriage or your children. If I had any proof of abuse I would be going to the police, in fact I would report this. She sounds unhinged.

HeyEwe · 20/02/2022 16:18

Your mil is a racist and abusive, why do you want to be anywhere near this woman? I wouldn't want her to have any contact with me or my family, honestly why would you put up with this? Cultural differences are not an excuse for racism and child abuse.

FelicityPike · 20/02/2022 16:21

You’re getting the same answers/ responses on both your threads.
I’m sorry but you need to open your eyes and keep your children as far, far away from this vicious, evil woman as you can.

Sandunesandseashells · 20/02/2022 16:26

Neglect is one of the four areas of abuse taught in safeguarding training, op. The other three are sexual, physical and emotional. What you have described covers 3/4 of these areas.
Please don’t diminish what mil has done and keep an eye on the clock as likely as not, she will push the boundaries.

diddl · 20/02/2022 16:28

If your husband wants to see his mum he can do.

She treats you all like shit.

Does he think that offering his kids up to appease her will stop that?

billy1966 · 20/02/2022 16:30

I can't believe what I am reading.

Your calling it odd that your daughter is upset around her.

She had hugely abused your children and she is coming back to your house?

You husband and you have stood by an allowed this vile woman abuse your children and she is coming to your house again.

Unbelievable.

Your poor children.

Your husband is putting his abusive mother and family ahead of his little children.

Unbelievable.

Utterly shameful behaviour.

RobertsRadio · 20/02/2022 16:30

What a vile woman your MIL is. Racist, xenophobic and is deliberately cruel to your DC. Why the hell would you want someone like that in yours and your DD's life, let alone your home.

billy1966 · 20/02/2022 16:33

Why have children if you care so little about them to low this woman to abuse them.

Your child is distressed around a woman who abused her, and YOU think this is ODD?

How could you allow this?

PickleChoo · 20/02/2022 16:33

OP why are your DH's wants and desires more important than your little girls safety and wellbeing?

You are allowing a continuation of abuse by allowing mil acess to your dd.

Please open your eyes to what it is (abuse!) and keep your daughter safe.

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