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AIBU?

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Inlaws abandoning us to move away

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mag2305 · 18/02/2022 00:25

My inlaws (in their late 50s) currently live a few miles up the road from us but will be relocating 3 hours away to a countryside location. They've bought this second property as a holiday home but have now decided to live and retire there and my MIL will be taking her 85 year old mum too. The reason they're leaving is just because they like the area better, no other family live there.
My dh found out today and is feeling really upset. Also, because his sister, grandma and uncle knew before us, it just feels extra rubbish. We suspected something was going on as they've been spending more and more time at this holiday home. Plus, they've started getting the grandma's flat redecorated for no reason - well we now know the reason.

We're sad because we have a 3 year old and 7 month old and thought my dh's parents enjoyed being grandparents and seeing us but that's not even been factored in. They've been really unemotional about leaving. My ds especially is really going to miss them as they've had loads to do with him. I feel like they're trying to get away from us maybe and they don't want to help out as grandparents. But we haven't asked that much of them over the years.

I understand that they have their own lives but AIBU to think that they should have more importance on family? It's normally the younger generations who move away, not the older ones.

OP posts:
girlmom21 · 18/02/2022 16:25

No I recognised her username and couldn't remember why, so I searched it.

I wasn't looking for a snarky dig. I've made a very valid point.

If you don't like it that's your issue.

Roussette · 18/02/2022 16:27

I can't get over the posters who are insinuating it's selfish to went to live retirement in a way that is right for you. Like the parents of adults have to be there to look after the GC, to support endlessly, to babysit whenever needed etc. and don't you dare live somewhere else except near me for when I need you.
What about the fact that they have a life to lead? Is that irrelevant?

I just know without doubt that my adult DCs would be fine wherever we chose to live within reason. They are all 2.5 hours away now, and I'm just packing a case for us to go off for the weekend and have fun with them.

Why should GPs not live where they want to but have to hang around to support adult children with their own families.

I am there for mine like a shot, and would drop everything when needed but I and my husband also have a life too.

mag2305 · 18/02/2022 16:28

@girlmom21 i think that's just unkind to say that.

I think some people use mumsnet to gleefully take others down. Expressing different options is one thing but there have been some nasty comments as well.

For me, I'm a terrible worrier unfortunately and my brain doesn't switch off. As I'm awake so much of the night sometimes with dd and her night feeds, I feel like mumsnet is somewhere to offload and discuss things but I'm regretting that now.

OP posts:
Proudboomer · 18/02/2022 16:30

Your in laws are still only in their 50’s. They are not going to want to donate the next 10 years to hanging around to be your support system. They still have a lot of life to lead and now that their children are settled with children of their own they want to do something they want.
They can still be good grandparent with a good bond without living nearby.

girlmom21 · 18/02/2022 16:33

[quote mag2305]@girlmom21 i think that's just unkind to say that.

I think some people use mumsnet to gleefully take others down. Expressing different options is one thing but there have been some nasty comments as well.

For me, I'm a terrible worrier unfortunately and my brain doesn't switch off. As I'm awake so much of the night sometimes with dd and her night feeds, I feel like mumsnet is somewhere to offload and discuss things but I'm regretting that now.[/quote]
I genuinely didn't mean to be unkind. I'm wondering if you've had things happen in your life that mean you get upset by feeling left out or left behind.

You've said yourself you're happy for them if they're moving somewhere where they'll be happier but you're both upset by them moving away. It's completely understandable - but you did use the word 'abandoned' yourself - so I'm thinking maybe that's a genuine fear you have.

Sorry if I'm wrong or offended you.

SirChenjins · 18/02/2022 16:36

Yeah right Grin You searched it, found the thread about how she was feeling about her DH going on a stag thought and decided to use it to put the boot in just a little bit. Not valid and not nice.

What I came on to say OP was that I can identify with your parents - we're in our fifties and plan to spend a lot of the time out of the UK when we retire in the hopefully not too distant future. We've spent our adult lives raising our children (large age gap) and have had very little help so we're really looking forward to doing the things we want without being tied to child care etc.

That being said, I can understand your disappointment - when people you love and care for move away it does leave a big hole and it takes a while to adjust. It's only natural that you'll miss then immensely, but that will gradually decrease. As others have said, you'll have holidays to look forward to with them, they'll come to you, and you'll still have a good relationship with them - it'll just be a different kind of relationship. There's nothing to say that you and your DH might not decide to move at some point - either to be nearer to them, or with your work, or just because you want to. There are no guarantees in life, and it sounds like they're embracing their middle age and going for what they want which is great - we only get one life.

GlitteriestFluff · 18/02/2022 16:42

DH's parent have given you a really good demonstration about how it is really important to base your life around what is best for you.

I mean, wouldn't it be horrific if they decided to stay, purely because they didn't want to leave you/DP on your own with a baby. This might leave you feeling you couldn't move away from them even if you wanted to - a message you seem to have internalised about family somehow.

Now you can see that you have the right to move wherever suits you, because no-one has to be responsible for another adult. Do you not find that really freeing?

twodayisarightoff · 18/02/2022 16:56

I really think the majority of posters don't have very young children currently. It's easy to look back all rosed tinted and say it was fine. I am desperate for support and by that I mean some company that will also interact with the DC. I haven't had any this week and I'm on my knees as DH is working away and both kids been Ill. So I feel you Op.

RubyRedNails · 18/02/2022 17:22

@BearOfEasttown YANBU @mag2305* and I am shocked at the amount of people dissing you for how you (and your DH) feel. I would imagine most people would feel let down and disappointed at their parents/in laws bogging off 3 hours drive away.

If you have DC would you feel let down if they move away after uni? Go travelling? Move abroad? Both of mine settled in their university towns. It's a shame but I certainly don't feel let down, and we still have a close relationship. Or is it only young people who can move?

SirChenjins · 18/02/2022 17:30

@twodayisarightoff

I really think the majority of posters don't have very young children currently. It's easy to look back all rosed tinted and say it was fine. I am desperate for support and by that I mean some company that will also interact with the DC. I haven't had any this week and I'm on my knees as DH is working away and both kids been Ill. So I feel you Op.
I don't know if I think it was fine...I remember only too well feeling absolutely exhausted and being desperate for help with the DC. For one reason or another neither my parents nor my in-laws were available to help as often as I'd have liked and it was really tough, esp when I saw friends getting regular help from their families. However - fast forward 25 years and DH and I are now desperate for a break from dealing with family stuff and from work - it's been years and years, with no let up. The young children became children who became teenagers who became young adults, and at every single stage there are things to deal with, to pay for, to juggle - on top of demanding jobs, elderly parents who need care, the death of parents, health issues ourselves and so on and on and on.... That's why the thought of moving abroad or to another part of the UK that we love is very, very tempting - we just want a rest.
VickyEadieofThigh · 18/02/2022 17:33

@LovelyYellowLabrador

They’ll be back when they want looking after in their old age ….
I'm astonished when people say this.

Those of us who haven't got children tend to think it's everyone's right to go and live where they like.

hiraffe · 18/02/2022 17:43

I don't think you are unreasonable to be upset & I would tell them so but they are free to make their own choices.

My parents are immigrants & in our culture family comes first with everyone helping each other out. You need to make your own life & do what suits you, my father was recently very ill & I could be at the hospital in 20 mins & see him every other day to help his recovery. Support is invaluable imo.

JudgeJ · 18/02/2022 17:49

If the OP and her family manage to reverse this decision will they, the OP's family, promise never to leave the area in the in-law's lifetime, probably 30+ years?

fairylightsandwaxmelts · 18/02/2022 17:50

@twodayisarightoff

I really think the majority of posters don't have very young children currently. It's easy to look back all rosed tinted and say it was fine. I am desperate for support and by that I mean some company that will also interact with the DC. I haven't had any this week and I'm on my knees as DH is working away and both kids been Ill. So I feel you Op.
Or maybe many of them remember doing it without help and managing just fine.
hiraffe · 18/02/2022 17:55

Or maybe many of them remember doing it without help and managing just fine.

The old I managed so why can't you argument. Very progressive!

fairylightsandwaxmelts · 18/02/2022 18:01

@hiraffe

Or maybe many of them remember doing it without help and managing just fine.

The old I managed so why can't you argument. Very progressive!

Nothing to do with being progressive (or otherwise) - more that maybe many people don't see the need for all the dramatics?

OP is a married adult with children - she's not being "abandoned" because her in-laws want to move three hours away Hmm

mag2305 · 18/02/2022 18:06

@hiraffe I think that's probably how my inlaws feel too. They've often told us how they 'managed' with young children and family not local. The strange thing is that my mil's mum did the exact same thing. Moved away with her late husband to live somewhere more rural away from family, grandchildren, etc. Except his health then declined and they moved back because they needed help.

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Roussette · 18/02/2022 18:07

@SirChenjins I am so with you on your post.

I had no help whatsoever when mine were young for various reasons but that doesn't mean to say I won't help! I will. But I won't put the rest of my life on hold to just be there for when I'm wanted.

It was so so difficult to have young DCs and look after elderly parents but I did it. How I coped looking back, I have no idea.

I juggled jobs like everyone has to do and I literally did everything I could to give my DCs a good childhood. Then all the teen years, Uni years, helping them move again and again and again... and it never goes away!

I deserve a break and that involves holidays when we want, living where we want and I don't think that's a lot to ask for.

WonderfulYou · 18/02/2022 18:12

YABVU

It’s unfair that you/DH would rather they sacrifice their happiness for your own.
I can see why they told you guys last.

I would be so sad if my parents moved to the other side of the world but I would absolutely support them 100%

They’re only moving 3 hours away so you can easily still see them.
Chances are they’re moving to an area that will be really nice to visit too.

Geppili · 18/02/2022 18:18

Do you have abandonment issues from the past? My DM is dead. My DSF is in stage four alcoholism. They have never been interested in us and our DC. Lived 400 miles away. It is sad but you just have to focus on your family. They are still living. It must be a shock, but you will get used to it.

jacks11 · 18/02/2022 18:30

I think YABU. You are happy where you are and that’s a good thing. I presume your parents are happy, though you say they would never move even if they weren’t “ because family matters”. This suggests you view that as the only “right way” to do things. But would you genuinely prefer that your PIL to be hankering after something else so that they can be close to you? Would that not create a lot of pressure on you too? If they stay for you, it’s going to be hard to justify you moving if you ever wanted or needed to.

Your PIL are moving to somewhere they really enjoy being because they can now they are retired. It’s great that they can do this whilst they are (presumably) in good health- they only get one life, just like you, and I think they are trying to make the most of it. I get that you might miss them, but 3 hours really isn’t that far.

They maybe didn’t want to say anything before it was decided and sorted as they knew you and DH would be upset and angry, or would try and talk them out of it. Or perhaps they genuinely didn’t feel the need to consult you both about the situation and/or just assumed you’d support their decision if that was what made them happy etc.

I don’t suppose you’d seek approval from them (or your parents, for that matter) if you wanted to move away- either for better job opportunity or because you found somewhere you loved being or any other reason- and how would you feel if they were angry and upset at you for wanting something different? I don’t see why it is ok for younger people to move if they want (or need) to but it’s wrong/unfair for people who have adult children (and even worse if they have DGC).

I suspect if they didn’t take DGM many would accuse them of “leaving you to pick up the slack” and I think you might not be best pleased to be left with that responsibility either.

FWIW, one set of my grandparents lived about 3.5 hours from us and we only really saw them in school holidays (though they phoned every week or so- pre face-time era!)- we would go up and stay for a week or more, sometimes with and sometimes without our parents. They were wonderful grandparents, we had the best times and I have so many wonderful memories of them. We were far closer to them than my other set of grandparents who we saw very regularly as they were 20 minutes away. I think it was partly a personality thing, but I think because they really valued the time we did get they focussed their time and attention on us when we did see them in a way they might not have wanted to/been able to if we’re around all the time. I can’t say for sure, but I just wanted to say that being close by does not guarantee a good, close relationship and being far away does not mean DGP’s cannot have a good, close and loving relationship with their DGC.

I would also say- as someone whose father is in poor health and has been for many years (since he was mid-50’s, actually- so not too dissimilar in age to your PIL), whose health is fading more rapidly as time passes- it’s fine to miss them, but be grateful for what you have. I would love for my dad to be well enough for him and my mum to go off and have an adventure or decide to move somewhere just because they love it there. Even if it meant I’d see them less, and my children would see them less. I think it’s great that your PIL get to fulfill ambitions and do things they want to, go where they want to and experience new things. It could so easily be taken away from them tomorrow or next week or next month or next year…. I say good on them for making the most of their retirement.

BBCONEANDTWO · 18/02/2022 18:31

Just think though - school holidays they will probably want the kids to go there for a few nights. Peace for you and hubby.

Sceptre86 · 18/02/2022 18:47

Your views on family don't align with theirs. It's not necessarily wrong. It would be difficult for you if they need care as they get older but it sounds like you and your dh would find a way to still pitch in and support them. I'd be less inclined to do so personally but you sound different.

My parents live 4 hours away and I have 3 kids, one a 5 month old baby. I'm limited to seeing them unless it's holidays but we do go. They come to us and stay with us for a night or two but it's rare as my dad struggles with the journey. They are still very close to my kids and watsapp call everyday do they can see and talk to them. My mil on the other hand lives 10 minutes away and whilst loving expects us to always go to hers. She sees the kids once a week and is not as close to them. That's her choice and I feel she misses out but if that's as much contact as she wants there isn't much we can do. Distance doesn't always mean that family ties will not be as strong, just requires that bit more effort.

loislovesstewie · 18/02/2022 18:48

Do you really want them to stay and be unhappy? Do you want them to think 'I wish we had moved to (wherever) and done (whatever it is they want to do)? Perhaps they promised themselves years ago that one day they would do exactly what they are doing now? I understand that you will miss them but honestly don't you want them to enjoy the here and now?
FWIW, my DH died a month ago. I've told my adult kids to get on with their lives; they aren't my companions, they aren't here to keep me company. They have their own lives to lead and people to see. If they don't do that then it's all pointless. And, in return, they have told me, in no uncertain terms that I have to do whatever makes me happy. At the minute, that is difficult, but it makes me feel that I can get on with things without feeling that they are going to disapprove.
Can you not be happy for them that they are doing things that make them happy?

whumpthereitis · 18/02/2022 19:24

@hiraffe

Or maybe many of them remember doing it without help and managing just fine.

The old I managed so why can't you argument. Very progressive!

But what do you expect the in-laws to do? Ignore their own needs and wants, forgoing their much anticipated freedoms?

Presumably they’ve spent 18+ years prioritizing raising family, and now they want to live for themselves. Maybe it’s not what you would choose, but it doesn’t make them wrong.

OP will just have to adjust.

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