To think fully grown men shouldn't need to pee in the street

[Madmaxxy]

I've just had the joy of looking out of my front room window to see a man had pulled his car up (into private spaces that are designated for the flats on our road) and relieved himself into the space. I saw everything

For context we are not rural! It's a long residential road that runs parallel to a main road, which is opposite the centre of town. Busy with cars and pedestrians, and opposite a long row of houses like mine. This was also less than a metre from the pavement, so a poor unsuspecting pedestrian would behave got an eyeful.
I also know that that space belongs to a family with three young children and he's just filled it with his piss in broad daylight.
So AIBU to think a fully grown man should at least be able to hold it until they get to a McDonald's or something.

Also, I don't bloody care what medical stuff he has going on, there's zero excuse. He has a car. He was travelling in the car. He could have easily and discretely used a bottle while seated in his car.

Whatever happened to public decency?

@CorrBlimeyGG

Sometimes people just cannot wait. Especially as they get older.

More like some men are gross, maybe this one should be wearing adult nappies if he “can’t wait for a toilet”. But I doubt very much it’s medical as women don’t tend to piss everywhere.

I agree that you don't see women doing this despite suffering from bladder problems, men do it mainly because they can.

However lots of women probably restrict their lives because of toilet issues. I can't go anywhere without needing a wee and it's a struggle.

I view those with medicinal issues the same when it comes to violence.

If someone is violent in public because they are having a mental health episode - are psychotic or demented or paranoid or whatever - it isn’t their fault. But that doesn’t excuse men with their full faculties functioning from punching their girlfriends while walking down the street. We don’t excuse those men just because some men might be ill. We phone the police whether we think they might be ill or not. And those who are violent due to medical issues receive appropriate treatment and management. It’s the same.

So stop excusing this.

No wonder men don’t care when they have women apologising for them too. 90% of the people that puss in the street are men. Yes women do it when drunk or jogging but they don’t just pull their knickers down at the end of the alley at 2pm on a Saturday. For a start it would make them bloody vulnerable.

Lots of women have horrific birth damage. Terrible tears. They are not pissing in the street.

My teenage sons don’t piss in the street because they have been taught that it is disgusting. It’s stinks too. They don’t gob either. But then I’ve taught them manners and decency.

We don’t teach our daughters to piss in the street.

Just googled for some stats: haven't read the whole thing but this would indicate four times as many women suffer from incontinence as men. That should mean that for every man who just cannot avoid pissing in the street there are four women doing it.

It's male entitlement and arrogance. Depressing how many want to justify it.

It’s dirty. They don’t wash their hands. Piss on their hands and then use the petrol pumps.

Or hand over your parcel delivery to you. Aside from the vile pissing in the streets they are doing shopping, deliveries, doing work on your house after holding their nob and not washing their hands.

I'm really shocked at the number of people who think this is fine/unavoidable.
It's one thing to duck behind a tree when you're in the middle of nowhere. It's quite another to just piss in the street. 3 times recently I have come across guys taking a piss in the street in the dark. Two of those times I had to step over the stream of piss as it was still leaving their body.
I don't think it's acceptable.

@Feelingoktoday

No wonder men don’t care when they have women apologising for them too. 90% of the people that puss in the street are men. Yes women do it when drunk or jogging but they don’t just pull their knickers down at the end of the alley at 2pm on a Saturday. For a start it would make them bloody vulnerable.

Lots of women have horrific birth damage. Terrible tears. They are not pissing in the street.

My teenage sons don’t piss in the street because they have been taught that it is disgusting. It’s stinks too. They don’t gob either. But then I’ve taught them manners and decency.

We don’t teach our daughters to piss in the street.

Absolutely this. My boys have been raised the same.

I had an awful bladder after my 3rd c-section and I didn't once consider pissing in the street - as much as I may have wanted to!!

This thread is so weird, with the whole medical issues derailment. Sure, some people have medical issues that make it very difficult to hold on until they can find a loo. But that's not what we are talking about here. There is an attitude that it is perfectly acceptable to men to pee in public - against trees, fences, in doorways - and it's utterly abhorrent. The amount of times I have been in a pub with a group, and we have left the pub, only for a male to step into an alleyway for a pee. I mean, come on! The loos are right there! But they are "allowed" to pee in public, so they do.

Yes the bar for men is pathetically low.

And I don't know what good anyone defending it thinks they are doing.

If you go diving, safari, travelling because men are able to pee anywhere, they do so no toilets all the live long day are the norm outside of England. So women end up having to squat (leaving them vulnerable) or limiting their travel (urinary leash). If it weren't considered normal for healthy men to piss everywhere then more toilets would exist which would benefit the incontinent. Who are statistically more likely to be women anyway.

It's not a medical issue, its an entitlement issue.
The men in my family all wee in the garden rather than going upstairs into the house for a wee.
It's disgusting.
This also means they don't wash their hands and it's usually on sunny days when we have a BBQ. I never put 2 and 2 together but please excuse me whilst I throw up.

You obviously haven't been in a city centre at night. Coming home from the theatre, I have witnessed women literally squatting in the middle of a road and weeing. That's disgusting. Men try to find a discreet spot. They don't as a rule just piss in the centre of a road with dozens of pedestrians passing them.

I genuinely think that for some men who do this there is an element of enjoying dominance display, or even flashing.

The other day when I was walking the dogs a man whipped his tackle out and started peeing up against a wall right in front of me. It was only when DH (who is 6 foot 2) came up behind me that the man attempted to turn away. We could see from the marks on the wall exactly what he had done.

DH actually called the police because the man had been so flagrant in getting his tackle out. There was a café two metres away on one side and a pub on the other so he had no excuse not to have used a toilet.

I agree with previous posters that many of us set the bar far too low for men's behaviour. If we all make a point of calling it out every time we see it then maybe things will start to change.

On any thread which calls out men for poor behaviour the "but women do it too"s all come out. What's that all about? It's invariably a tiny proportion of women relative to men doing the behaviour, from violence and sexual assault to pissing in the street. (If not and you genuinely see as many women as men doing it where the hell do you live?!) Why are posters so desperate to insist women are the same? Internalised misogyny? Genuinely don't get it.

Fwiw I think this is just part of a spectrum of male antisocial behaviour which stems from the different standards to which society holds girls and boys from the moment they are born.

Men try to find a discreet spot.

Not in the op they didn't.

I've lived in cities around the world. I have never, ever seen a woman going somewhere other than behind a push or similarly concealed area.

Where the hell do you live?!?

@Bbq1

You obviously haven't been in a city centre at night. Coming home from the theatre, I have witnessed women literally squatting in the middle of a road and weeing. That's disgusting. Men try to find a discreet spot. They don't as a rule just piss in the centre of a road with dozens of pedestrians passing them.

They piss right opposite my house with my kids playing in the front garden. When I've taken them to task I've been asked if I'd like to suck it.

I've never seen a woman pop a squat on the pavement or shop doorway in broad daylight, but regularly see young men in their teens and twenties casually peeing on my 15 minute walk to the train station after work. Shopping centres/bus stations with free to use toilet facilities are never further than a 10 minute walk or 5 minute sprint away. There's now more of them open until later into the evening than there were a few years ago, so you'd hope it would happen less.

Unless there's been a recent epidemic rendering a lot of young men unable to control their bladders, I'm going with laziness and because they can over it being a medical emergency,. Three times already this year I've had to actively move out of the way to avoid getting some random guy's pee on my shoes and that's at 7pm on an evening on a busy street where there are bushes available seconds away and shock horror an actual toilet at the gas station two minutes walk away. Absolutely no excuse for this type of behaviour.

@WorriedMumsDontSleep

Men try to find a discreet spot.

Not in the op they didn't.

I've lived in cities around the world. I have never, ever seen a woman going somewhere other than behind a push or similarly concealed area.

Where the hell do you live?!?

I did say try to find a discreet spot. If the man in question couldn't wait as he had a medical problem then, unpleasant as it is, he had little choice. I live in the suburbs of a large city and have only seen women doing it in the city centre itself. Not a daily occurencd but I have seen it.

I agree it's disgusting. A man once peed on the bus stop standing fairly close to me which was sickening. It was in broad daylight on a main road. I told him how disgusting it was. He was drunk and shouted at me "It's only a piss, love"...I have no issues at all with people using an entry/alley if desperate. Doing it in a residential area isn't on but it may be unavoidable for medical reasons. People just don't want to think that there are also women who pee in public with no attempt whatsoever to conceal it - but unfortunately they do exist.

He didn't have a medical problem. I'd bet the farm on that one.

I wonder how many exhibitionists use the ‘I have a medical condition so I need to pee in public’ as an excuse for flashing.
A few years ago I saw that in some state in the US you can end up on the sex offenders register for peeing in public. I thought it was a great idea. I don’t care why you take your dick out in public, if others can see it then you’re flashing and deserve to be treated like a sex offender. The fact that you’re peeing doesn’t make it less relevant. I bet if that same law was introduced in other countries the peeing in public issue would solve itself quickly and most of these men would suddenly be able to control their bladder.

The men in my family all wee in the garden rather than going upstairs into the house for a wee.
It's disgusting.

Jeez, have they never been pulled up on this? I can now see that if men have no problem with pissing all over their own garden they're not going to think anything of doing it in a public place

@Sweetpeasaremadeforbees

The men in my family all wee in the garden rather than going upstairs into the house for a wee. It's disgusting.

Jeez, have they never been pulled up on this? I can now see that if men have no problem with pissing all over their own garden they're not going to think anything of doing it in a public place

Tbh if the men in my family did this I'd be locking the house and telling them to stay in the garden!

On any thread which calls out men for poor behaviour the "but women do it too"s all come out. What's that all about?
Unfortunately the bar for male behaviour is quite low and there's a lot of women out there who would sooner tow the line and be apologists for male pattern behaviour than acknowledge it as problematic.

There's always an excuse, and unfortunately some people teach their boys that this behaviour is acceptable. One morning I was at the park and a Mum allowed her son to wee at the edge of the play area. There's a toilet block close by, but obviously she couldn't do what most parents do at the park (use training pants/pull ups, go to the toilet, bring a change of pants or clothes in case of an accident). Little boy, who was early primary school age, was allowed to drop his pants and wee on the play surface.