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To think ex shouldn’t share bed with 12yo DD?

242 replies

Splobbins · 14/02/2022 09:02

Namechanged for this thread but am a longstanding regular.

DD told me that when she’s staying at ex’s this weekend, he’s having visitors and plans to give them his bed and he will sleep in hers - with her. She’s already been upset that he’s given guests her bed when she’s not there, without asking her (and always her bed, not DS’s). I said he should ask her first, but when she told me he wants to actually share her bed I was horrified. It is a double bed but that doesn’t make it ok imo. And he has other options like the sofa.

DD has started puberty and cares a lot about her privacy and private space. Ex has only recently moved and been able to give the dc their own rooms instead of sharing with her older brother.

However I searched for threads on this and quite a few responses to similar questions were that it’s fine and up to the dad, and that it’s ok for mums so it’s ok for dads too. I find that appalling - yes DD gets in my bed sometimes but we’re the same sex and I think it’s totally different in terms of how it makes her feel and the inappropriateness.

However I grew up in a home with zero boundaries and was sexually abused by my dad - so I can see I might have a distorted view.

DD has said she will tell him no she doesn’t want that - but he doesn’t tend to listen to her. AIBU and if I’m not, should I talk to him about it myself?

OP posts:
mydino · 14/02/2022 12:50

I also have a DD 12 and wouldn't see a problem with her sharing a bed with her dad. However, if she wasn't comfortable with it then it would definitely be an issue. This isn't because it's her dad, but she shouldn't have to share a bed with anyone that she doesn't want to.

CoffeeLover99 · 14/02/2022 12:51

@mydino

I also have a DD 12 and wouldn't see a problem with her sharing a bed with her dad. However, if she wasn't comfortable with it then it would definitely be an issue. This isn't because it's her dad, but she shouldn't have to share a bed with anyone that she doesn't want to.
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Suzanne999 · 14/02/2022 12:55

YANBU.
Your daughter doesn’t want to share a bed which is totally reasonable.
Why has your ex suggested he share with DD and not DS? Why not borrow a camp bed / sleep on sofa?
At 12 your DD is assessing her boundaries for her future too so I’d say no to this and expect my DDs would have said no too.

Phobiaphobic · 14/02/2022 13:10

@GatoradeMeBitch

Of course it's different. Waking up in the morning cuddled up to your Mum would be very different to waking up to your Dad's erection pressing into your back or tentpoling the sheets. That's my main problem with older kids sleeping with their fathers and why I see it differently to sleeping with their mothers. Men get erections while they are asleep. An older child who is dealing with hormones and everything else really does not need to see Dad's morning glory if she wakes up first.
Exactly. Amazing how many people are pretending they don't know this. It's the reason I would absolutely not be comfortable sharing a bed with a son over the age of 12 - just hideously embarrassing for everyone.
RealBecca · 14/02/2022 13:34

Shes not happy and shes told you, her mum, because she doesnt want to speak up so you need to be her voice on this even if it rocks the boat.

honeybeetheoneandonly · 14/02/2022 14:07

Would she be happy to share with her brother instead or would her brother be happy to share the double bed with dad while she sleeps in her brother's bed for the night? Is it only one night? I would speak to both children and see if they have a preferred solution (re sharing or getting picked up etc)

Comedycook · 14/02/2022 14:22

Would she be happy to share with her brother

Wtaf!

You think it's appropriate for a twelve year old girl to share a bed with her teenage brother?!

No no no

Honestly, some of these responses are horrific

Berthatydfil · 14/02/2022 14:32

Single bed or double?

To be honest I wouldn’t like either but a double would just about be tolerable at a push but really I would be saying if you have to share a room one of you goes on a blow up mattress.

However that being the case why can’t he put a blow up mattress in ds’s room ?

PaperClips007 · 14/02/2022 14:39

What I feel uncomfortable with is why is the Father not suggesting he shares with his son? Why has he assumed that he can sleep in his daughters bed without her consent?

I'm not applying anything here, but it's not something that I would feel comfortable with. I'd also imagine the guests would find this weird and could very well interpret this in another way.

Also, your DD is hitting a crucial age where you must support her in that her boundaries, feelings and thoughts are not up for debate and her privacy is paramount and she does not have to bow down to a male's (doesn't matter which male ) demands.

caringcarer · 14/02/2022 14:41

If your dd is not comfortable with it then tell him she won't be coming as he has given her bed away this weekend.

caringcarer · 14/02/2022 14:46

What if he gets an erection during sleep/on waking?

loislovesstewie · 14/02/2022 14:50

@caringcarer

What if he gets an erection during sleep/on waking?
Exactly! I can't get my head around adult women not understanding that males often wake up with an erection! I mean, how embarrassing for both father and daughter.
Nowomenaroundeh · 14/02/2022 14:58

She doesn't want to so I'd be putting my foot down hard. You have an opportunity here to demonstrate that she is always entitled to say no to anything that compromises her own feeling of being comfortable.

tintodeverano2 · 14/02/2022 15:04

Unfortunately, I think your own experience may be clouding your judgment here.

I wouldn't have an issue with my ex sharing a bed with my similarly aged dd, but if she didn't want to then it would be a definite no.

It's up to your dd really and if she's not comfortable, then I'd stand in her corner.

Hayisforhorse · 14/02/2022 15:05

I think this line is your problem: "DD has said she will tell him no she doesn’t want that - but he doesn’t tend to listen to her."

He doesn't tend to listen to her requests about how comfortable and safe she feels/bodily autonomy... That's the main issue.

DD(12) will sometimes still cuddle up in her bed with DH if she's struggling to sleep, or he's reading a story and then drops off, while she carries on reading on her own. They don't share the bed all night, and if she said she wasn't comfortable he wouldn't dream of it!

Snaketime · 14/02/2022 15:06

I'm a bit in the fence with this because I don't agree with your reasoning OP. I don't really see a problem with a dad sharing a DD's bed as a 1 off, but only as long as the DD is OK with it. Your DD is at an awkward age developmentally and should be being taught to place her own boundaries in regards to her own body, private spaces etc.
So yes back your DD up on this but do NOT bring up any of what you have said you feel here, keep it just to the fact of your DD being uncomfortable and why she feels that way.

gailforce1 · 14/02/2022 15:12

Can your DD simply change weekends to one when her Father does not have any visitors?

DaisyDreaming · 14/02/2022 15:17

I see nothing wrong with it IF she’s comfortable with it. I’m not horrified at the idea of a girl sharing a double bed for one night with their dad but if she’s really uncomfortable it’s a different matter. Have you got access to a blow up bed or camp bed?

Splobbins · 14/02/2022 15:18

I think she would like to see the visitors. But she could do that and come back to mine overnight if needed. However, there is space – there are ways they could all fit in without imposing on DD's space.

OP posts:
Toddlerteaplease · 14/02/2022 15:32

My dad would have been horrified at the thought of sharing a bed with me at that age!

Comedycook · 14/02/2022 15:35

@Toddlerteaplease

My dad would have been horrified at the thought of sharing a bed with me at that age!
I think most dad's would be and would automatically take the sofa instead. It's really not appropriate
NeverDropYourMooncup · 14/02/2022 15:49

If DS is willing to do anything for a quiet life, perhaps he'd give up his bed for his sister?

Bigoldhag · 14/02/2022 15:55

I don’t think its a big deal but if it matters to your daughter then its fair she shouldn’t have to. Do you have any camping gear so she could sleep on the floor- either in the room or in her brother’s room?

Wannabangbang · 14/02/2022 15:56

Why doesn't he sleep on the sofa. I don't think it's appropriate at her age

MajesticallyAwkward · 14/02/2022 16:10

I don't think it's inappropriate for parents to share a bed with their dc as long as the dc are comfortable with it. In this case it's not unreasonable for your ex to suggest this but he should respect your DDs response.

As you say there are other options and he should go with one of them.

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