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“I didn’t think we were bothering this year”

272 replies

BBOA · 14/02/2022 08:37

Arghhhhh! What a twat! Speaks volumes! Are men/partners/ wives / significant others that stupid?

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Octomore · 14/02/2022 11:40

We don't bother with valentines any year.

What neither of us does is say "Let's not bother" when actually we mean "You'd better buy me something and take me out for a treat if you're not stupid". Because that would be childish, manipulative game playing.

Holothane · 14/02/2022 11:42

Oh he’s only brought me a card I wasn’t expecting one didn’t care he also brought me a dr who mag he’s trying to get back into my good books. Too late.

Phos · 14/02/2022 11:44

Didn't even remember it was Valentines until DH said happy valentines day this morning. We won't be doing/buying anything, never have. I don't know why anyone over the age of 17 would get that upset about it.

grapewine · 14/02/2022 11:44

@thegreylady

We just swap cards. We ordered them online and wrote them for each other in bed this morning. Dh always used to make me one but at 85 he can’t do that. Here is a photo of this morning’s card.
I think Valentine's Day is a Hallmark holiday, but this one got me. That's adorable, and I think you must be lucky to have each other!
DysmalRadius · 14/02/2022 11:45

@thepeopleversuswork

Nipping to a card shop and florist to buy me some very over priced flowers doesn’t make me feel special.

This. If anything it makes me feel cheap and like he's done it out of guilt or because he forgot.

Nothing against people celebrating if they want to and some people have some lovely, personalised traditions. But assuming that its "sad" not to feel guilted into buying a card and flowers is just pure projection and pretty pathetic.

I have seen so many people reduced to tears by shitty Valentine's behaviour: buying nasty petrol station forecourt flowers after coming back late and being hungover. Forgetting altogether and having huge rows over it. The basic Valentine material you buy from the shops is generally intrinsically tacky: hideous cards, nasty underwear, fake flowers. To me, its a naff and psychologically unpleasant festival. No other festival is based on making people feel anxiety about the status of their romantic relationship.

That's not to say it can't be celebrated in a loving way but so much of it seems to be performative "look at me I'm in a relationship me!" point scoring. Crack on if you want to but I will sit it out.

Have you never been on here around Christmas, or seen posts from people on their birthdays when they have received nothing, or a crappy present that shows no thought or consideration? If you are with an inconsiderate partner, then you will feel bad on any occasion where they could easily make an effort but choose not to. In that situation, it's not Valentine's day that is the problem, or Christmas or a person's birthday, it's the fact that it highlights the fact that there are some inherent issues in the relationship.

We all seem able to accept that people do different traditions in different ways at other times of year - some people exchange presents with their partners at Christmas, some only give to kids, some do a secret Santa - so why is Valentine's day worthy of such derision that people sneer and denigrate those that want another opportunity to celebrate with those that love them?

Theghostofchristmasarse · 14/02/2022 11:48

Urgh yes. Currently trying to give my head a wobble as saw BF on sat night/Sunday, we sort of discussed it earlier in the week but have both had really busy weeks, not even seeing each other today at all...I made the effort to get him a card and left it under his pillow for today, but he didn't. Only our second valentine's together, he now feels bad...I agree it's a load of bollocks and he's so thoughtful every other day of the year, he's just not very good at forward planning...🤷 However I'm still annoyed! I'm 44 ffs, I'm divorced, it's hardly my first rodeo! Just need to get over myself. Will watch a shitty romantic film later by myself and try not to dwell on it I guess...

Changes17 · 14/02/2022 11:52

Ah, you have to be less romantic. On Saturday I asked to what extent we were going to be bothering with it this year. As a result, I got him a card and chocolates, he got me some chocolates. Because we've had years in the past when one of us made an effort and the other one forgot or just didn't. It''s equally likely to be me as to be him that forgets. This way no chance of anyone getting upset/feeling bad.

Changes17 · 14/02/2022 11:52

X-posted!

MischievousBiscuits · 14/02/2022 11:53

We don't really do presents anymore, but we always do a romantic evening together. Meal, wine, movie, just time for us. Its nice and I like to mark it every year.
Yanbu to feel annoyed- its not the present, its being made to feel special.

SleepingStandingUp · 14/02/2022 11:55

@thegreylady

We just swap cards. We ordered them online and wrote them for each other in bed this morning. Dh always used to make me one but at 85 he can’t do that. Here is a photo of this morning’s card.
😍😍
thepeopleversuswork · 14/02/2022 12:01

why is Valentine's day worthy of such derision that people sneer and denigrate those that want another opportunity to celebrate with those that love them?

It's a good question and this is a personal answer as I accept that people have widely different perspectives on this.

I guess for me: Christmas and other festivals have also veered a long way from their original intention but they do attempt to celebrate a human fundamental truth: family love, community, looking after others less fortunate than ourselves. Yes this has become rampantly commercial but there are universal truths which underpin this.

Valentine's Day in its current incarnation is a celebration of something which is in itself a totally false construct: romantic love. Romantic love as an idea is a fairly recent development and creates a veneer of respectability for two competing and often conflicting impulses: sex and the desire to collaborate economically.

A modern relationship is usually an attempt to yoke together those two competing impulses: it tries to create an infrastructure around the desire to have sex and to turn something fundamentally unstable into a stable framework for the support of children and an economic unit.

There's nothing wrong with that: for many of us a committed relationship is probably the best way to organise our lives. But the "romance" that's layered onto it is a fundamentally fake construct. A good long term relationship is built on many things: friendship, expediency, shared goals, children, economic necessity and hopefully sex. In a good and lasting relationship some if not all of these will be present. But romance is a notion that is designed to legitimise lust, longing and sex. It's completely at odds with the notion of a stable relationship.

I'm not comfortable with this because it doesn't reflect the reality of my relationship. I don't believe my relationship is in any way improved because my partner remembers on one day a year that he has to buy me flowers from a petrol station. He should be supporting and loving me throughout the year and if he has to do this once a year "because romance" its a sign to me that something else isn't working.

For me, this is why everything about Valentines is so icky and naff. It's because its an attempt to paper over a fundamental tension at its heart, with a healthy layer of commercialism. And it doesn't work.

I know not everyone sees it like this and its a free country -- people are free to do what they want to do. But enough of us do that there must be something to it.

Aloha7373 · 14/02/2022 12:03

@thegreylady

We just swap cards. We ordered them online and wrote them for each other in bed this morning. Dh always used to make me one but at 85 he can’t do that. Here is a photo of this morning’s card.
This is so lovely 😄 have a wonderful day together!
Goldi321 · 14/02/2022 12:04

In previous relationships I built Valentine’s Day up to be a big deal in my head, they were shit boyfriends and I thought that them being nice to me on 1 day of the year would cancel out the other 364 days.
My DH doesn’t care about commercial days (I’ve turned him around to enjoy Christmas and have learnt for my birthday I just have to be really strict about telling him I want a cake otherwise the thought doesn’t occur to him) but is a total sweetheart 365 days of the year. This morning I had a cup of tea brought for me in bed, like he does often. I don’t find his lack of interest in Valentine’s Day upsetting as I did with previous boyfriends, because I feel extremely loved and cared for every day of the year.
I’m sorry for everyone who is disappointed and wonder if it is more of a reflection of bigger issues in the relationship?

BBOA · 14/02/2022 12:06

@mrsLargeEmbodied. What she said!
He said he thought we weren’t bothering. It’s fine we’ll go out sometime.

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Ejk1990 · 14/02/2022 12:06

We buy eachother a card, both of us forgot to write in the cards this year 🤣

OrinoccoFlew · 14/02/2022 12:07

Valentines Day is for singletons anyway. Don’t know why couples have adopted it

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 14/02/2022 12:11

why is Valentine's day worthy of such derision that people sneer and denigrate those that want another opportunity to celebrate with those that love them?

I haven't seen any sneering. I do see the entirely reasonable point being made by some people that they don't feel it's for their age group/current stage of their relationship, and this is fine. It's not intended to be a damning indictment of others who feel differently.

We've (just) stopped with the Valentine's Day card/present thing after being together for two decades. We celebrate our anniversary because it's more personal (and gives us one less thing to remember).

Mother's/Father's Days are just as much a commercial racket but these truly matter to both of us, having struggled for seven years to have a child. Small gestures are fine, and our child usually makes a card (which means far more to me).

I also don't 'get' the notion that once you're over eighteen your birthday should be a non-event.

Celebrate what matters to you. The point isn't whether people should or shouldn't do that: it's whether your partner habitually forgets and that this is a symptom of their general attitude to your relationship.

GirlOfTudor · 14/02/2022 12:13

Why are you upset? My husband and I have never bothered with valentine's day as it isn't a special/significant day for us.

bubblesbubbles11 · 14/02/2022 12:14

thegreylady

That is so lovely.
You sound to have been very lucky in finding your partner!

MsMeNz · 14/02/2022 12:15

for me V day to me is for high schoolers and first crushes etc. adults doing it seems a bit lame IMO unless it both somethign you really value for whatever reason

SleepingStandingUp · 14/02/2022 12:15

I haven't seen any sneering

Just one exampke:
Aww OP,
Did you want to post a #blessed#loved ? And now you can’t?
Sad for you.

There's plenty of people going on about it being tacky and commercialised shit etc. Similar to posts when someone says they didn't get an Xmas present or Birthday present. It's MN, you're not allowed to celebrate anything without someone hitching.

Why are you upset? My husband and I have never bothered with valentine's day as it isn't a special/significant day for us.
But obv they DO usually celebrate.

SmellyOldOwls · 14/02/2022 12:18

@BoodleBug51

I upset DH by telling him that it's for single people and teenagers, not people who have been married for nearly 30 years. And it's a commercial racket that isn't remotely romantic...... just tacky.
Perfectly put!
BBOA · 14/02/2022 12:19

What I love about MN is you have a little rant as you are feeling unappreciated and you just get roasted . Be nice. Constructive - yes. Unkind - no. Not everyone is in a perfect relationship.

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Heyahun · 14/02/2022 12:19

emmm no i didn't bother this year, nor did he

SleepingStandingUp · 14/02/2022 12:19

So what did you say to him @BBOA when he said he cba this year?

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