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To think Camilla should not be crowned Queen

483 replies

Viviennemary · 06/02/2022 00:41

I know there are other threads on this but I thought it would be interesting to get a vote. Seems most people are in favour. I'm not

OP posts:
Snog · 06/02/2022 07:26

Charles and Camilla as king and queen just seems like a joke to me.
Ditto BoJo as PM

If only it were all a bad dream

HilaryThorpe · 06/02/2022 07:31

So just out of interest, do the people who think Camilla should not have the title of Queen also think that second wives should not be allowed to take their husband's name? Should they all be banned or just those who were the OW?

GeodesicDome · 06/02/2022 07:31

Aw, bless you OP withholding your 'approval'.

Sorry to break it to you, but you don't get a say.

That's kind of the point.

GrandmasCat · 06/02/2022 07:31

I don’t care anymore that their relationship started as an adulterous relationship, they are old, they are happy and all that.

But having that pair with that history at the head of the Church of England is bonkers. They appeased the public by saying she was going to be a Princess consort then back tracked on that.

The queen is certainly loosing it, first protecting Andrew and now this. This monarchy has to end as soon as she passes.

PAFMO · 06/02/2022 07:32

@FlapsInTheWind

I think the pair of them are unbearable. PC calling himself the head of the church when he was continuing to shag his ex while married. I agree Diana was no saint but she was treated like absolute shit by the pair of them. I see them as two very weak people with zero morals.
If every church goer was ostracised for immoral behaviour, we'd have a country full of discount carpet stores. (And I'm including the clergy)
Redcrayons · 06/02/2022 07:33

I haven't watched it, but I suspect this narrative of Charles and Camilla being prevented from marrying in the early 70s emanates purely from 'The Crown'

Nah, this has been talked about for years and years. Long before Netflix was around.

Why don’t you approve @Viviennemary?

ddl1 · 06/02/2022 07:35

She will be the king's wife, so she'll be the queen (consort). And if attitudes to suitable partners for royalty had been the same in the 70s and 80s as now, she would probably have been Charles' wife from the beginning. She was his girlfriend long before Diana was. It could be that they just had a temporary break-up, but it's likely that the relationship was discouraged by the royal family because a divorced woman was seen as 'not suitable'. With tragic consequences, most of all for Diana.

NiceShrubbery · 06/02/2022 07:36

Mr Saxe-Coburg Gotha shouldn't be king either.

Of course Liz has to bestow her magnanimous blessing on Camilla and tell the peasants to support her, as Charles is a bit of a dick and nobody likes him, which means it would be curtains for the royal pantomime, and the queen needs to boost box office revenues to support the family nonce, etc.

DickMabutt73962 · 06/02/2022 07:37

Guess we'll never know OP's reasons 🙄

MrsLargeEmbodied · 06/02/2022 07:38

@FrecklesMalone

Charles should have been allowed to marry her in the first place. It would have solved a lot of heartache all round.
yes, such a shame
Forshorttheycallmecomp · 06/02/2022 07:41

I’m a committed Republican. But, if you “believe” in the monarchy, then Camilla will be queen (consort). The problem with monarchy is you can’t pick and choose the rules, they are what they are, and (to my mind) just because we’ve had a devoted public servant for 70 years, doesn’t mean it’s something we’ll always have, ergo we should get rid of the monarchy. (Also it is quite ridiculous on many many levels)

“Camilla shouldn’t be queen” is from the same logic as “it should skip a generation to William”. It’s not how it works: the moment the queen breathes her last, Charles is king, and his wife is his queen. The princess consort arrangement was tactical but she would always have been technically his queen, even if she would never have been known as it.

AuntyJanet · 06/02/2022 07:42

@GrandmasCat

I don’t care anymore that their relationship started as an adulterous relationship, they are old, they are happy and all that.

But having that pair with that history at the head of the Church of England is bonkers. They appeased the public by saying she was going to be a Princess consort then back tracked on that.

The queen is certainly loosing it, first protecting Andrew and now this. This monarchy has to end as soon as she passes.

What has the Queen done to protect Prince Andrew?
GrandmasCat · 06/02/2022 07:43

But she didn’t want to marry back then, she was very busy with Mr Parker Bowles back then, Charles was just a side gig.

SecretIdentitee · 06/02/2022 07:43

But having that pair with that history at the head of the Church of England is bonkers

Considering the church of England was created to allow Henry VIII get a divorce and marry someone he was at least having an emotional affair with I don't think this is an issue.

GrandmasCat · 06/02/2022 07:46

What has the Queen done to protect Andrew? keep silent. She could have said he was going to face court as a private citizen since the beginning or asked him to settle as soon as possible, but she chose to hold until it was untenable to pretend Andrew was innocent. Now she is asking her both things, but only because she cannot longer shove it under the carpet.

GreenWhiteViolet · 06/02/2022 07:48

I'm a republican and would prefer that we ditched the whole lot when the present Queen dies. If that doesn't happen, though, Camilla should be Queen, because the wife of a reigning King is the Queen. There's no test of character involved. That's how the monarchy works - and I don't see that she's any worse than the rest of them anyway.

OvertheRainbow2U · 06/02/2022 07:49

Dear Sue Townsend, Queen Camilla 2006.

She will be QC that's a given...

I have no opinion either way

This country has bigger fish to fry...

Oh, and she makes Charles happy - so that's nice

londonrach · 06/02/2022 07:51

Yanbu. Tbh if anything this year has show with Andrew and Harry's behaviour and lockdown and people realising what really matters is why In 2022 do we have a royal family. I have no influence and yes Charles and Camilla will be king and queen and life will continue as such. Just not interested anymore although I did respond on here so maybe abit.

NiceShrubbery · 06/02/2022 07:52

What has the queen done to protect Prince Andrew

Everything possible to protect her position and income, and acquire more. Including hosting Jeffrey Epstein at Balmoral. She only stops protecting Andrew when the RF is threatened.

There've been about 25 different threads on this in the RF section.

The Camilla endorsement is just the latest iteration of this behaviour.

Keep paying those taxes, serfs! Remember, the Queen is Devoted to Your Service. She loves you all so very dearly.

Wnkingawalrus · 06/02/2022 07:53

Camilla also knew that Charles loved her not Diana, but did nothing to stop the very young, naive Diana from marrying a man she thought loved her

Are you joking? Why is this on Camilla? If Charles married Diana under false pretences then the only person to blame for that is Charles (and Diana’s family who railroaded her into it).

But of course it’s always the fault of a woman Hmm

Wnkingawalrus · 06/02/2022 07:54

Including hosting Jeffrey Epstein at Balmoral.

Yeah, I’m sure she knew exactly what was going on there.

Hcppch · 06/02/2022 07:54

Life goes on. None of them covered themselves in glory at the time but Charles obviously loves Camilla and she seems to do a great job of supporting him. Agree with pps he should have been allllwdd to marry her in the first place. Maybe this is the Queens way of making amends to that.

Camilla in person is warm and interested in people. She also has a cracking sense of humour.

UnsuitableHat · 06/02/2022 07:58

@GreenWhiteViolet completely agree.

EdithWeston · 06/02/2022 07:58

@Wnkingawalrus

Camilla also knew that Charles loved her not Diana, but did nothing to stop the very young, naive Diana from marrying a man she thought loved her

Are you joking? Why is this on Camilla? If Charles married Diana under false pretences then the only person to blame for that is Charles (and Diana’s family who railroaded her into it).

But of course it’s always the fault of a woman Hmm

This is The Crown ?

Because Charles other main mistress before (and probably during) has been airbrushed out, as has the different woman Diana thought (Mishcon letter) was the one Charles wanted to marry afterwards

DrSbaitso · 06/02/2022 07:59

@Hawkins001

If a person has to say I am king, then they are no true king.
What's the logic behind that?
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