Page 37 | Boris - new low

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 2022-02-01T16:50:34+00:00

Obviously he's running scared from his own side as well and Labour and the excellent contribution from Ian Blackford - no doubt Dennis Skinner would have done the same if still an MP. However, there was no need for Johnson to stoop to the level of more lies - this time trying smear Kier Starmer with untrue allegations about Jimmy Savile. [[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/60213975]]

SueSaid · 08/02/2022 17:43

@Languishingonthesidelines

Been on a ventilator ? Didn't think he needed intubation...

As he was in ICU for 3 days he may well have required some kind of respiratory support, an ICU consultant would not have just had him there taking a bed up if it wasn't needed.

Haven't you heard of non invasive ventilation aka CPAP? Perhaps he had that? We don't know do we. Suffice to say he was very ill.

'might have helped himself by trying to avoid catching covid, instead of boasting how he'd been shaking hands with Covid patients'

He said he'd been shaking hands, he didn't say with covid patients. Vallance then pointed out handwashing was of course key in that situation.

Honestly considering there's so much outrage about him some people really do seem to be revelling in chucking bile and vitriol about.

FloraPotts · 08/02/2022 17:46

@Choccy21

Not sure why Tony Blair had a hard time. He became a multi millionaire after ten years as PM. He also took over at a good time in the boom years. Then left before a financial crises started. Yes other modern day PMs have had a rough ride, I just commented that BJ has had a turbulent two years!

I thought we were talking about stresses while in office Choccy?

And I agree that Boris has had a turbulent time but was merely pointing out that other senior politicians did their jobs while undergoing significant stresses too. Maybe Blair less than others, but raising a family of four while holding the office of PM can't have been easy.

Alexandra2001 · 08/02/2022 17:49

@Choccy21

Not that I’m a massive Boris fan, but he’s had a hell of a two years. Became PM, faced a global pandemic straight afterwards pretty much, been on a ventilator with covid, got married, had two children and lost his mother.

That’s quite a bit to go through isn’t it?

He was never on ventilator. But if he was really ill with Covid, you would have thought he would have been very strict on SD at Downing St wouldn't you? not wanting anyone else to face "near death" like he did...

Or was it just a PR stunt....

Peregrina · 08/02/2022 17:51

news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-boris-johnson-was-shaking-hands-as-some-scientists-were-calling-for-it-to-stop-11983606

www.theguardian.com/world/video/2020/mar/27/i-shook-hands-with-everybody-says-boris-johnson-weeks-before-coronavirus-diagnosis-video

'I was at a hospital where there were a few coronavirus patients and I shook hands with everybody,'

So either he lied and didn't shake hands with everybody, or he did shake hands with all patients, some of whom had Covid.

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daimbarsatemydogsbone · 08/02/2022 17:53

Honestly considering there's so much outrage about him some people really do seem to be revelling in chucking bile and vitriol about.

Hmm - I wonder what could have caused that? Perhaps people are pissed off that Johnson's response to being caught red-handed was er....bile and vitriol.

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Alexandra2001 · 08/02/2022 18:02

an ICU consultant would not have just had him there taking a bed up if it wasn't needed

BJ's medical team wanted him moved to an ICU, not an NHS consultant.

Haven't you heard of non invasive ventilation aka CPAP? Perhaps he had that? We don't know do we. Suffice to say he was very ill

...according to a serial liar Bozo was very ill.

For context, i developed CV a little earlier than BJ, 24/7 cough and fever/chills, collapsed and was found by my DD, ambulance called, sats very low, BP through the floor... was not admitted.

This is what ordinary people faced... most people had to be on deaths door before going to hospital.

ancientgran · 08/02/2022 18:23

Didn't someone say he got moved to ICU for security/privacy reasons? I'm sure I heard that at the time. Of course it might not have been true, hard to know nowadays.

ancientgran · 08/02/2022 18:24

@Blossomtoes

I felt desperately sorry for Gordon Brown when his little daughter died. He was so obviously devastated.

Yes and wasn't one of his sons unwell, maybe CF? Must have been worrying for him.

ancientgran · 08/02/2022 18:27

@Choccy21

Not that I’m a massive Boris fan, but he’s had a hell of a two years. Became PM, faced a global pandemic straight afterwards pretty much, been on a ventilator with covid, got married, had two children and lost his mother.

That’s quite a bit to go through isn’t it?

We've all had a hell of a two years. Being PM should have been a positive, he's always wanted it. He wasn't on a ventilator. Getting married should be a positive. Having two children should be a positive. Leaves us with a pandemic and losing a parent, he's not alone there is he.

the80sweregreat · 08/02/2022 18:41

We've all suffered a lot these past few years and it's not going to get any better , but I do agree that Boris Johnson had had a lot more than most ,even if if some of it was self inflicted.
He seems to bounce back despite it all though.
He seems fairly indestructible.

StoneofDestiny · 08/02/2022 18:55

Johnson became PM - his choice
Johnson got married - his choice
Johnson had 2 more kids - his choice
Johnson got Covid - many died of Covid because of his choices and the arrogant sod visited hospital without a mask despite the rules, and proceeded to have multiple parties against the rules - god knows how much Covid was spread because of these asinine decisions.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 08/02/2022 21:08

been on a ventilator with covid

He was not on a ventilator. He had oxygen, spent just 3 days in ICU then was discharged from hospital 3 days later. There is no way anyone who was intubated would have spent that short a time in ICU.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 08/02/2022 21:10

The dates for his stay in hospital and treatment are freely available btw.

Rosscameasdoody · 08/02/2022 21:22

@JaniieJones

'Not that I’m a massive Boris fan, but he’s had a hell of a two years.'

Yep and here we are one the first countries to be exiting the pandemic in a strong position economically and without any restrictions. I believe in Italy you need a face cover to walk down the street.

Still never mind that, let's get back to mocking Dorries and Mogg.

Who told you that ?

ancientgran · 08/02/2022 21:25

@the80sweregreat

We've all suffered a lot these past few years and it's not going to get any better , but I do agree that Boris Johnson had had a lot more than most ,even if if some of it was self inflicted. He seems to bounce back despite it all though. He seems fairly indestructible.

So was winning an election, marrying a woman he must love and having two healthy babies is a negative?

An awful lot of people have had covid and lost loved ones.

He managed to enjoy some parties while others were working, like nurses, doctors, shop workers, care workers and many more.

He also got someone else to pay for doing up his flat so no worries about saving up to get it done like millions or others.

ancientgran · 08/02/2022 21:26

Oh yes and he's got a nice free country home for weekends and rich friends to pay for foreign holidays for him. Pardon me if I don't weep for the poor wee soul.

Rosscameasdoody · 08/02/2022 21:27

How on earth have people come to the conclusion that this is Johnson's fault?!

Because until he made that outrageous comment Keir Starmer wasn’t being mobbed. The PM has made him a target.

jgw1 · 08/02/2022 21:29

@Rosscameasdoody

How on earth have people come to the conclusion that this is Johnson's fault?!

Because until he made that outrageous comment Keir Starmer wasn’t being mobbed. The PM has made him a target.

Isn't it longer term than that?

Boris Johnson has spent the past 20 years + playing to the rabble, and then feigns surprise when a mob turns up.

ancientgran · 09/02/2022 12:48

I wish I'd counted how many times he said, "Mr Speaker" at PMQs today. He always says it alot but today seemed like a new level. Think I'll have to count next week. Does he do it to just use up a bit of time?

ClaudineClare · 09/02/2022 13:05

In case you have not seen

Pippa Crerar (@PippaCrerar) Tweeted:
EXCL: New bombshell image shows Boris Johnson with open bottle of bubbly at No 10 Christmas quiz t.co/2eK8mNvjdu twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1491385298777153536?s=20&t=K3yFWDkw3O4KqvaK0v9NLg

SueSaid · 09/02/2022 14:22

Bombshell?! We've seen this quiz before. Which is funny because when Pip originally shared a snap from it she said with 'a bottle of bubbly' but at that time when it was first leaked, what a month ago? all that was visible then was hand sanitiser. She's obviously finally, finally, got one with the 'bubbly' in shot. She must be ecstatic.

3 people present though at a remote Christmas quiz. I'm not outraged sorry. Booze is allowed at work, Starmer said.

Cornettoninja · 09/02/2022 14:30

I don’t really subscribe to your personal barometer for outrage @JaniieJones.

I don’t think this photo is particularly shocking but that’s probably because Boris and his cabinet have driven standards down so very, very low.

jgw1 · 09/02/2022 14:35

@JaniieJones

Bombshell?! We've seen this quiz before. Which is funny because when Pip originally shared a snap from it she said with 'a bottle of bubbly' but at that time when it was first leaked, what a month ago? all that was visible then was hand sanitiser. She's obviously finally, finally, got one with the 'bubbly' in shot. She must be ecstatic.

3 people present though at a remote Christmas quiz. I'm not outraged sorry. Booze is allowed at work, Starmer said.

You think it is alright for the Prime Minister to be drinking and at a quiz in the middle of several national crisis.

Its not the way I would wish for a country to be run, but I suppose everyone has different standards.

ClaudineClare · 09/02/2022 14:39

I agree it is not a bombshell.

We all know that Johnson went to several parties, lied to Parliament and is generally unfit to run the country. That doesn't mean the media shouldn't publish any new evidence. Every tiny shred of it should be made public.

SueSaid · 09/02/2022 14:59

'That doesn't mean the media shouldn't publish any new evidence. Every tiny shred of it should be made public.'

Evidence

3 work colleagues in a room at work. One bottle of something opened, no-one drinking from it but even if they were that would be ok because we know no crimes were committed when the leader of the opposition necked beer at work with others.

I'm sure Pip and Dom have more up their sleeve, but this one is a 0/10 from me. Must try harder.