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To wonder how you feel today if you voted for Boris Johnson at the last election?

545 replies

Readyforthegoodlife · 31/01/2022 16:20

It’s absolutely no surprise that Boris is behaving in this way but I cannot actually believe that we have a prime minister like this. He is utterly morally bankrupt. If you voted for him how do you feel now?

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truthfullylying · 01/02/2022 13:44

I'd also suggest that you very little awareness of the rest of the world if you don't realise that there are enormous advantages to being a British citizen and/or living in the UK. You're an incredibly privileged individual to be able to take that for granted.

I class myself a patriot and I love Britain - but it is a truth that many countries now far outstrip the UK in many ways that impact quality of life. We have followed a non-standard course since the financial crash (austerity) and the quality of life of many Britsh families is far, far below our European neighbours. It is very patronising to imply people do not know about other countries - many people know a great deal of other countries.

Loving Britain = wanting the best for living British residents, not just being comforted by rhetoric.

VelvetChairGirl · 01/02/2022 13:45

@Newgirls

I doubt he does anything for actual Uxbridge and Ruislip. They must vote him in thinking it makes them special in some way. Does he ever go there?! Seems pretty run down area really not as nice as neighbouring areas so he can’t do much for it?
you cant vote if your MP is PM, no local elections until he's gone from number 10. I feel sorry for the people of Uxbridge but god alone knows what possessed them to vote for him in the first place.
truthfullylying · 01/02/2022 13:45

@VelvetChairGirl

This is not true - the PM is opposed at general elections, and local council elections are unchanged.

Only the speaker is unopposed.

Yeahthat · 01/02/2022 13:52

@truthfullylying

I'd also suggest that you very little awareness of the rest of the world if you don't realise that there are enormous advantages to being a British citizen and/or living in the UK. You're an incredibly privileged individual to be able to take that for granted.

I class myself a patriot and I love Britain - but it is a truth that many countries now far outstrip the UK in many ways that impact quality of life. We have followed a non-standard course since the financial crash (austerity) and the quality of life of many Britsh families is far, far below our European neighbours. It is very patronising to imply people do not know about other countries - many people know a great deal of other countries.

Loving Britain = wanting the best for living British residents, not just being comforted by rhetoric.

That's a moderate position which I completely agree with. However, the PP's statement was no such thing.
daimbarsatemydogsbone · 01/02/2022 13:54

@Yeahthat
You have a fair point(s) :)
Perhaps I protest too much - but you are daft for talking about handing out taxpayer's money as if this government hasn't been tripping over itself to spaff millions of our cash to their mates.

Lolamento · 01/02/2022 14:33

Well I look at Labour and know they are still much worse which is the alternative. Also, look at the tyrants such as Macron, Trudeau and Arden and feel much better to be here. Rather party gate than fascism. Also, look at the US with Biden/ Harris and see that they doing a lot worse than Trump for the US. Wher ver you think of Trump these are facts. The commies are desperate for Labour but if it is for me they will never get in.

MorningStarling · 01/02/2022 14:41

I usually vote Tory but spoilt my ballot at the last general election because I didn't think anyone was suitable.

I can understand why people voted Tory, because the alternatives were - and still are - even worse.

Personally I don't really care if Johnson had a few lockdown breaches, all the other main party leaders have been caught out at times as well. It's largely irrelevant. What matters is how they run the country, things like health, taxes, defence, that type of thing. Nothing the opposition parties have said or done leads me to think they'd do a better job of running the country.

The fact that Starmer & co. have focused on these parties for so long just goes to show that they're not able to attack the government on their policies.

Lolamento · 01/02/2022 14:43

Do people realise that many people who broke the rules do not give a damn about this? I followed the rules but many did not.

ivykaty44 · 01/02/2022 14:47

There is a big difference between knowing something and thinking the alternative maybe worse

theDudesmummy · 01/02/2022 15:01

Enormous advantages to being British and living in the UK? I left the UK because this was not true any more. Believe me, there are much better places, and within three years I will have my EU freedom of movement back again...

MarshaBradyo · 01/02/2022 15:09

@theDudesmummy

Enormous advantages to being British and living in the UK? I left the UK because this was not true any more. Believe me, there are much better places, and within three years I will have my EU freedom of movement back again...
Where did you go? Out of interest

As one of the many of my peers who chose to move here I don’t gel with some of these posts re dislike.

Of course it’s good if people live where they can be happier

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 01/02/2022 15:12

@Lolamento

Well I look at Labour and know they are still much worse which is the alternative. Also, look at the tyrants such as Macron, Trudeau and Arden and feel much better to be here. Rather party gate than fascism. Also, look at the US with Biden/ Harris and see that they doing a lot worse than Trump for the US. Wher ver you think of Trump these are facts. The commies are desperate for Labour but if it is for me they will never get in.
Are you real? The level of ignorance in that post is denser than depleted uranium - it has to be a parody, surely?
theDudesmummy · 01/02/2022 15:15

@MarshaBradyo Ireland

Lolamento · 01/02/2022 15:26

@ all daimbarsatemydogsbone

Oh yes we dare to talk we are ignorant. You are the ignorant if you have not worked all these things out.

ivykaty44 · 01/02/2022 15:34

Lolamento
Well I look at Labour and know they are still much worse which is the alternative. Also, look at the tyrants such as Macron, Trudeau and Arden and feel much better to be here. Rather party gate than fascism. Also, look at the US with Biden/ Harris and see that they doing a lot worse than Trump for the US. Wher ver you think of Trump these are facts. The commies are desperate for Labour but if it is for me they will never get in.
Are you real?

The level of ignorance in that post is denser than depleted uranium - it has to be a parody, surely?

As much as I disagree with the poster and what they wrote - the poster daimbarsatemydogsbone has nothing intelligent to add. If you’re going to debate then actually debate don’t come out with pure senseless insults as it shows you have no viable argument.

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 01/02/2022 15:40

Wher ver you think of Trump these are facts. The commies are desperate for Labour but if it is for me they will never get in.

Sure, that's not even slightly ignorant. What facts?
It's not worth trying to deploy a sensible argument in the face of this sort of nonsense. Commies? Good grief.

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 01/02/2022 15:46

@Lolamento

@ all daimbarsatemydogsbone

Oh yes we dare to talk we are ignorant. You are the ignorant if you have not worked all these things out.

You are ignorant if you claim the people you list are "commies" that's just ridiculous.

You are also very ignorant if you claim it's "the facts" things were better under Trump - especially since you don't bother to offer any actual evidence.

IntermittentParps · 01/02/2022 15:54

The fact that Starmer & co. have focused on these parties for so long just goes to show that they're not able to attack the government on their policies.
Seems more likely to me that they're acting in line with public opinion; things like polls where 60-odd% of people think Johnson should resign, and the interesting one that found that less than half of Tory voters think he has been honest.

DoleWhipFloat · 01/02/2022 16:09

@Lolamento

Well I look at Labour and know they are still much worse which is the alternative. Also, look at the tyrants such as Macron, Trudeau and Arden and feel much better to be here. Rather party gate than fascism. Also, look at the US with Biden/ Harris and see that they doing a lot worse than Trump for the US. Wher ver you think of Trump these are facts. The commies are desperate for Labour but if it is for me they will never get in.
Completely agree. Also, I’m living under a Labour government in Wales and certainly wouldn’t want that for the whole of the UK.
Batholemubrecht · 01/02/2022 16:11

@MorningStarling Labour have indeed attacked the government on their policies and lack of progress in numerous spheres. Let's look at the great advances the tories have made over the last 12 years. Lasting policies that have improved life for ordinary people ? Northern powerhouse for example - just a talking shop...why do we need levelling up if that was such a success ? Certainly if you choose to read certain papers and don't listen to PMQs you won't have a clue what labour are saying but to say that the tories are the only party capable of running the UK is clearly ludicrous.

Twillow · 01/02/2022 16:16

@MorningStarling
*Personally I don't really care if Johnson had a few lockdown breaches, all the other main party leaders have been caught out at times as well. It's largely irrelevant. What matters is how they run the country, things like health, taxes, defence, that type of thing. Nothing the opposition parties have said or done leads me to think they'd do a better job of running the country.

The fact that Starmer & co. have focused on these parties for so long just goes to show that they're not able to attack the government on their policies.*

All the other party leaders have not been caught out, even once let alone a few times! Starmer having beer with his takeaway lunch at his constituency office during a meeting differs slightly from sending invites out to 100 people. And Ed Davey (lib dems) has not a sniff of lockdown breach.

The final part to your post is rather undone by Boris' desperate (and already on record as untrue) attempt to smear Starmer re Jimmy Saville today.

theDudesmummy · 01/02/2022 16:22

What do you mean about "other party leaders" being "caught out". That is simply not true at all.

theDudesmummy · 01/02/2022 16:24

And let me assure you, from the inside, that the Tories were not good for the health service. Especially mental health.

Loveisthere · 01/02/2022 16:24

I voted for Boris to be the leader of the party and no I am not in his constituency

user68901 · 01/02/2022 16:29

I didn't really want Boris as PM (voted remain) but the real problem was that I wanted Jeremy Corbyn alot less.
I am a lot more likely to vote labour next time. I think Boris and his chums have been a disgrace.