Does shone rhyme with dawn or zone?

[youdialwetile]

DD has been told she's saying it wrong - may be both as used in different places?

Shone rhymes with gone and scone

Shone is rhymed with cone, zone, bone in the Midwest US.

[quote thisgardenlife]@SoFriendless

How does horn corn and dawn not rhyme…? How are you pronouncing dawn?

Horn and corn rhyme.
Although dawn sounds very similar, dawn has a more drawn-out 'awe' sound, and there is no 'r' at all. Corn and horn have a pronounced 'r', especially in Scotland.[/quote]
Thanks, I can’t imagine it though. I wish mumsnet had voice clips

Aw and or sound the same to me

Corn and dawn do not rhyme if you have a rhotic accent.

That is why Shaun the Sheep didn't work as a pun everywhere.

@mathanxiety

Shone is rhymed with cone, zone, bone in the Midwest US.

@mathanxiety So would you say 'the sun shone' pronounced like 'cone' (as in 'own')?

If that's the case, how is 'shown' pronounced? (As in 'he was shown two examples').

@Mummyoflittledragon

This thread is blowing my mind. Shone rhyming with zone and corn not rhyming with dawn. Aren’t accents interesting!

Aye, if there's one thing Mumsnet has taught me it's that I don't speak proper English 😂

@mathanxiety

Shone rhymes with gone and scone

Correct @mathanxiety. So why do you also say in your preceding post:

'Shone is rhymed with cone, zone, bone in the Midwest US'.

Or is that the specific pronunciation in Midwest US? And if so, how is 'shown' pronounced?

Shone “shon” is related to a past event
“The sun shone yesterday” few other applications.

One is pronounced “wun” in some casual accents but “wun bun” is really bad usage

English is a peculiar language where the same words mean different things according to the use

I had no idea one and won were pronounced wun but apparently they are!

Neither

shone verb
/ʃɒn/
/ʃəʊn/
www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/shone

dawn noun
/dɔːn/
/dɔːn/
www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/dawn_1?q=Dawn

zone noun
/zəʊn/
/zəʊn/
www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/zone_1?q=Zone

It rhymes with gone for me

I agree with most of the explanations except for this:

'One' does not rhyme with 'gone' or 'Shone'.

'One' rhymes with 'fun' and 'bun'.

So which is the correct way of saying one?

@borntobequiet Look at the second example under shone and zone that you’ve cut and pasted. They’re identical (except the S and Z) because they rhyme in American English and Oxford Learners Dictionary tries to cover British and American English. It is correct that they do not rhyme in British English. OP has stated she is in America.

@Thethingswedoforlove

Neither/ it rhymes with gone

Thank you. Thought I was going mad there for a minute.

''on''

@thisgardenlife

This is getting ridiculous.

In British English, shone, as in the sun shone, is pronounced shon, ie 'on', but with sh in front. It doesn't rhyme with any of the examples, and those who think it sounds the same as 'one' are just plain wrong.

'One' sounds the same as 'won' (he won a prize), nothing like shone. If it did it would be like 'wan', as in pale and wan.

Shown, on the other hand, as in 'I was shown two examples', sounds like 'own' (oan) just with sh in front - shown.

One and gone do not rhyme. Won sounds like wun. Gone sounds like 'on' but with a hard g in front, hence 'gone'.

That should clear this madness up.

Thank you!

One and gone...wtf?

I’d say shone like con and cone. Dawn sounds like horn/corn where I’m from. DH would pronounce dawn like Don though

Phonetically won, one and bun all have an inverted v in the middle so are pronounced like pun, sun etc.

wʌn (one, won)
sʌn (sun)
pʌn (pun)

I've been saying it wrong my whole life.

@Coldfingerstoes

So which is the correct way of saying one?

Wun

@Bahhhhhumbug

One and gone do rhyme, don't understand why people saying they don't. They both end in the 'on' sound. I have a relative with a strong cockney accent though and he says 'gone' as 'goan'. Apart from that never heard it said any other way except to rhyme with one

No they don't.

@floatinginmyhomie

I’d say shone like con and cone. Dawn sounds like horn/corn where I’m from. DH would pronounce dawn like Don though

But con and cone don't rhyme with each other.

This thread is doing my head in.

What a brilliant thread! I can imagine a US drawl where shone rhymes with dawn, but zone is just bizarre! I also have a Scottish accent, so for me it rhymes with gone too. It would be interesting (to me) if people could comment and add what their accent is!

@Thethingswedoforlove

Neither/ it rhymes with gone

Agreed