Does shone rhyme with dawn or zone?

[youdialwetile]

DD has been told she's saying it wrong - may be both as used in different places?

I suggested really confusing the teacher by writing "she shined her shoes while the sun shone"

I'm Irish and it would be pronounced the same as Shun.

@5YearsLeft

Rhyming with zone is an Americanism, I think?

Here is DD’s proof:
dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/shone

There are the first sound buttons for UK and US sounds but then…

You can press the button down under the second entry that says “shone - American dictionary” and hear it rhymes exactly with “zone.”

Well that settles it. Never noticed that before

Gone or One or None,

Con and Ron

Depends on the accents I guess.
Even Shakespearean poetry doesn't always rhyme.
It's not what poetry's about anyway. IMHO.

It’s either said shun, shon, or shown

Yes, OP, that’s the issue with school. You’ll never get all the accents (as @Monty27 points out). Best you can do as a teacher, probably, is use something as the “official” source, like the sound files from Cambridge Dictionary, and for your DD, I imagine she’s using the same sort of thing from maybe Merriam-Webster (which includes the same “zone” American pronunciation and then a “British and Canadian” “dawn” pronunciation): www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shine (shone is right at the top)

😂 I can’t cope with people thinking ‘horn’ and ‘corn’ rhyme with ‘dawn’..?!
Also, in what universe does ‘one’ rhyme with ‘gone’?!

Both!!!

Shone as in to shine rhymes with gone and dawn, and I know someone whose surname is Shone, to rhyme with zone!

I'm really confused by all the people who pronounce one to rhyme with gone, as I don't think I've ever heard it pronounce like that. Where are you from?

I'm from East Anglia but have more of a London accent. I would pronounce these to rhyme:

shone gone con
bone phone. tone
Dawn fawn born

One/Gone/Shone
Horn/Corn/Dawn

Those rhyme for me.

Both are correct

dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/shone

One and gone do rhyme, don't understand why people saying they don't. They both end in the 'on' sound. I have a relative with a strong cockney accent though and he says 'gone' as 'goan'. Apart from that never heard it said any other way except to rhyme with one

I remember a line in a Paul Simon song where he sings ‘the pale yellow moon shone in the sky’ and he pronounced it ‘shown’, so I’ve always thought that the American pronunciation.

But definitely like ‘gone’ here in the west of England.

@Bahhhhhumbug

One and gone do rhyme, don't understand why people saying they don't. They both end in the 'on' sound. I have a relative with a strong cockney accent though and he says 'gone' as 'goan'. Apart from that never heard it said any other way except to rhyme with one

In RP English and my own neutral English accent, ‘one’ is pronounced like its homophone, ‘won’ - phonetically ‘wun’ - and ‘gone’ is like ‘con’ - totally different vowel sounds.

Yours only works in some northern English accents for me.

Neither - it rhymes with gone. Well, it does here (NZ).

I’m American with a heavy Eastern New England accent overlaid with private school. Shone rhymes with zone, phone, loan, and moan. I’ve never lived more than fifteen miles from my birthplace. My grammar is sound, but I don’t sound like the General American accent.

So "we were shown how the sun shone" would the shown/shone be pronounced the same?

This is getting ridiculous.

In British English, shone, as in the sun shone, is pronounced shon, ie 'on', but with sh in front. It doesn't rhyme with any of the examples, and those who think it sounds the same as 'one' are just plain wrong.

'One' sounds the same as 'won' (he won a prize), nothing like shone. If it did it would be like 'wan', as in pale and wan.

Shown, on the other hand, as in 'I was shown two examples', sounds like 'own' (oan) just with sh in front - shown.

One and gone do not rhyme. Won sounds like wun. Gone sounds like 'on' but with a hard g in front, hence 'gone'.

That should clear this madness up.

@Phrowzunn

😂 I can’t cope with people thinking ‘horn’ and ‘corn’ rhyme with ‘dawn’..?! Also, in what universe does ‘one’ rhyme with ‘gone’?!

How does horn corn and dawn not rhyme…? How are you pronouncing dawn?

Agree one and gone don’t rhyme though. As pp said one is said like won which rhymes with sun but gone rhymes with con. Con and sun don’t rhyme, same sounds as one and gone.

@LizBennet

So "we were shown how the sun shone" would the shown/shone be pronounced the same?

'So we were shoan how the sun shon' - is how those words should sound. As you can see, shown and shone sound quite different.

Sorry, my question was to Ericaequites.

This thread is blowing my mind. Shone rhyming with zone and corn not rhyming with dawn. Aren’t accents interesting!

@SoFriendless

How does horn corn and dawn not rhyme…? How are you pronouncing dawn?

Horn and corn rhyme.
Although dawn sounds very similar, dawn has a more drawn-out 'awe' sound, and there is no 'r' at all. Corn and horn have a pronounced 'r', especially in Scotland.