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To be really enjoying Boris Johnson's downfall?

998 replies

GrendelsGrandma · 19/01/2022 07:27

I know he'll be replaced by someone equally awful and I know he's not quite gone yet, but I can't remember when I felt uplifted about politics and the ejection of this national embarrassment is warming my cockles. Anyone else feel the same?

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ShirleyPhallus · 19/01/2022 07:29

I really don’t see how anyone can feel positive about this tbh. I hope the people that voted him in feel some embarrassment / contrition and make better choices next time.

mellongoose · 19/01/2022 07:32

It's a massive distraction at a time when the country needs stability. It is no good for anyone. But, of course, Dominic Cummings, the master strategist knows this.

mellongoose · 19/01/2022 07:33

Also, Putin must be laughing at us. How you can think this is good is beyond me.

sst1234 · 19/01/2022 07:34

I wouldn’t count your chickens yet. He could still survive this. If he gives more to the backbenchers. Who seem to be a more effective opposition than the opposition itself.

AndAllOurYesterdays · 19/01/2022 07:35

I'm with you OP. Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke. I'm enjoying his attempts to get out of it, and the fact he's failing.

DropYourSword · 19/01/2022 07:36

He's not gone until he's gone!

DaisyTheUnicorn · 19/01/2022 07:36

There's another thread asking if Tory voters would still vote Tory. Of course they will 🙄

jgw1 · 19/01/2022 07:38

@DaisyTheUnicorn

There's another thread asking if Tory voters would still vote Tory. Of course they will 🙄
Like they did in deeply conservative North Shropshire?
Alexandra2001 · 19/01/2022 07:39

I get the Putin angle, the national embarrassment etc etc but this is a guy whose party has let people die through austerity, acted slowly on covid and damaged the country irreparably by taking us out of the EU, he didn't care, it was a jolly jape for him to get into power... and look what he did with it?

So seeing him humiliated by his own arrogance is, in some ways, great to see.

On a another level, its so shameful how we, the voters, have allowed this too happen to what was once, a fantastic country.

jgw1 · 19/01/2022 07:40

@GrendelsGrandma

I know he'll be replaced by someone equally awful and I know he's not quite gone yet, but I can't remember when I felt uplifted about politics and the ejection of this national embarrassment is warming my cockles. Anyone else feel the same?
Is it wrong to hope that Sir Graham shortly has enough letters, but that the no confidence votes goes Johnson's way gaining him immunity from elimination for a year? Then he will have more time to crash around destroying himself and those near him.

I think it a bit rich for those who voted for him because he is a bit of a laugh, to not allow those of us who didn't vote for him to have a bit of a laugh now.

"but no one told me the party I was going to was a party, I dont know what a party is"

YourenutsmiLord · 19/01/2022 07:41

Amazing that he can't see he needs to go.
What Sue Gray says is not that relevant - he was slow to demand a lock down which resulted in so many deaths, he revamped No 10 (OMG how can that be a priority during a pandemic) on borrowed money, the corruption of money to Tory friends, more corruption of MPs working from their Parliamentary offices on other much more lucrative stuff, Owen Patterson - ....................... too much already.

Alexandra2001 · 19/01/2022 07:41

@sst1234

I wouldn’t count your chickens yet. He could still survive this. If he gives more to the backbenchers. Who seem to be a more effective opposition than the opposition itself.
Not even one page in and we get "....but Labour"

Go on go the whole hog and bring in Megan M ?

sashagabadon · 19/01/2022 07:42

No but then I don’t feel happy at anyone being bullied out of a job. I felt the same way about Major, Brown and May and I’ll feel the same way about the next PM too. It’s an almost impossible job and it boggles my mind why anyone wants to do it.
I also think we are being played by Cummings here and it’s because ultimately he wants a more Brexity Brexit and I think Johnson isn’t Brexit enough. I think anyone that still supports Remain being pleased about Boris going is foolish.

MarshaBradyo · 19/01/2022 07:42

@mellongoose

It's a massive distraction at a time when the country needs stability. It is no good for anyone. But, of course, Dominic Cummings, the master strategist knows this.
I agree and it’s embarrassing for Cummings to have such influence.
Blessex · 19/01/2022 07:44

Sadly I will have to vote Tory at the next election despite never voting for them before because every other party is intent in throwing women and girls under a bus. Until Labour and the Lib Dens get their act together on gender ideology I will be forced to vote Tory. It’s a sad state of affairs.

GrendelsGrandma · 19/01/2022 07:45

To clarify, I still feel like I'm on a national ship that has been hijacked by brexit pirates. I'm just happy to think of this particular Pirate Captain being made to walk the plank.

I know we're still overall completely screwed! I'm just enjoying this micro-second of chutzpah being punctured.

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KenAdams · 19/01/2022 07:47

Have you seen Laura and Roberts tweets from last night? The 2019 MP's seem to be saying they have the 54 letters needed to call a vote of no confidence and will look to send these in after PMQ's today rather than wait for the results of the enquiry.

Robert said the Sue Gray report may be published Friday. The news channels will be on fire for the next few days. It will be interesting to see the developments.

elelel · 19/01/2022 07:48

It's a feeling of despair more than enjoyment for me. This is our PM - it beggars belief really. The thing is, we are so used to it that like you OP, people are celebrating the downfall. Realistically we should all be wondering how the hell it ever happened in the first place, and ensure next time our leader is fit for purpose.

user1471538283 · 19/01/2022 07:48

I'm glad he is going to be ruined. He and his corrupt lot partied whilst people died alone. That's not even human. It is contempt.

I thought at one point the pandemic might have saved him. He did a shit job but you know there was a pandemic. Thank god this will cripple him. I'd take anyone now.

MarshaBradyo · 19/01/2022 07:49

@GrendelsGrandma

To clarify, I still feel like I'm on a national ship that has been hijacked by brexit pirates. I'm just happy to think of this particular Pirate Captain being made to walk the plank.

I know we're still overall completely screwed! I'm just enjoying this micro-second of chutzpah being punctured.

Doesn’t that depend on who comes up next due to it.. it could go further in the direction you / remain don’t want (I voted remain so not speaking from brexit perspective)

I have pondered why the 2019 MPs are leading this, aren’t they in due to landslide

Beefcurtains79 · 19/01/2022 07:50

Can’t get happy at more political instability in this country, making us weaker and more vulnerable.

AdamRyan · 19/01/2022 07:52

My fear is he won't be replaced by someone equally awful and Conservatives will therefore win another term by pinning all the bad behaviour on BoJo

I also think there isn't anyone as awful as BoJo. To me he has all the hallmarks of a narcissist/psychopath. Why anyone ever thought he was a good choice for prime minister is beyond me, given his track record of being sacked for lying, violence (Darius Guppy anyone?), affairs, corruption....
Partygate is really just par for the course from him.
Maybe I'm old fashioned but I think leaders should have integrity and hold themselves to the same standards they expect from those they are leading.

PhilCornwall1 · 19/01/2022 07:52

If he gets booted out, I will certainly enjoy seeing it and I do hope his future is completely fucked. He is scum and of no use to anyone.

AdamRyan · 19/01/2022 07:55

I have pondered why the 2019 MPs are leading this, aren’t they in due to landslide
They are leading it because they in due to "lent" votes by traditionally Labour voters in working class areas who already think "one rule for us, one rule for the elite"
Their seats are vulnerable and they don't want to be tarred with the elitist brush

merrymouse · 19/01/2022 07:55

@sashagabadon

No but then I don’t feel happy at anyone being bullied out of a job. I felt the same way about Major, Brown and May and I’ll feel the same way about the next PM too. It’s an almost impossible job and it boggles my mind why anyone wants to do it. I also think we are being played by Cummings here and it’s because ultimately he wants a more Brexity Brexit and I think Johnson isn’t Brexit enough. I think anyone that still supports Remain being pleased about Boris going is foolish.
It might be a hard job, but he is dangerously incompetent.

Major, Brown and May are politicians because they care about policy and government. Johnson finds both boring and governs as though he is writing a column that will be forgotten tomorrow.