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To be really enjoying Boris Johnson's downfall?

998 replies

GrendelsGrandma · 19/01/2022 07:27

I know he'll be replaced by someone equally awful and I know he's not quite gone yet, but I can't remember when I felt uplifted about politics and the ejection of this national embarrassment is warming my cockles. Anyone else feel the same?

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CamomileTeabag · 19/01/2022 07:56

@Blessex

Sadly I will have to vote Tory at the next election despite never voting for them before because every other party is intent in throwing women and girls under a bus. Until Labour and the Lib Dens get their act together on gender ideology I will be forced to vote Tory. It’s a sad state of affairs.
Because the Tories are so progressive on other women's issues - and towards other minorities? Hmm

You are kidding yourself - the country's democracy is burning all around you as we slide into an autocratic state, children are going hungry and families can't afford to heat their homes - and all you care about is self ID?

Try and see the bigger picture please, for all of our sakes. (That's the polite way of putting it).

sashagabadon · 19/01/2022 07:58

He’ll get job offers galore and will be writing columns and books. Maybe he’ll start his own sub stack and he taking in thousands each month like Cummings does. He’ll make plenty of money too so personally for him it’ll also be a good career move financially and also enjoyment wise too.

thegcatsmother · 19/01/2022 07:58

It's a distraction from where the focus should be, and you have to wonder, why now? What is Cummings hoping to gain? The media should be looking hard at Ukraine and the German response to Putin, drawing parallels with 20th century history and not getting in a lather about drinks in a garden after work.

Blessex · 19/01/2022 07:58

@CamomileTeabag frankly they are the least bad for women yes. Yes they are.

And yes. Women’s and girls rights happen to be extremely important to me. So you go vote for who you like but for me that is the line that will never be crossed. Now you jog on and vote for misogyny.

Alexandra2001 · 19/01/2022 07:59

I also think we are being played by Cummings here and it’s because ultimately he wants a more Brexity Brexit and I think Johnson isn’t Brexit enough. I think anyone that still supports Remain being pleased about Boris going is foolish

The Mirror journalist who is leading on most of these party stories has said she has no contact with Cummings, believable as she broke the Barnard Castel thing too.
Bojo is as Brexity as his party wants him to be, he has no opinions on the matter

I have pondered why the 2019 MPs are leading this, aren’t they in due to landslide

Their voters have turned against Bojo, if they have any hope of keeping their seats in 2 years time, they have to reflect this and not be seen to be supporting a guy who misled them on the rules, brexit and levelling up.

MyOtherProfile · 19/01/2022 07:59

Personally I'm hating this. He will be made a scapegoat and the rest of the Tory government will carry on with their sinister and destructive agenda. And they will get more votes because people will think the cause of the damage has been removed.

MarshaBradyo · 19/01/2022 08:03

@AdamRyan

I have pondered why the 2019 MPs are leading this, aren’t they in due to landslide They are leading it because they in due to "lent" votes by traditionally Labour voters in working class areas who already think "one rule for us, one rule for the elite" Their seats are vulnerable and they don't want to be tarred with the elitist brush
Who would they back to get away from elitist brush do you think?
BewareTheLibrarians · 19/01/2022 08:04

@Blessex women’s rights are important to you, but you’d rather vote for the party who refuse to make misogyny a hate crime? And when the Lords forced it through, Dominic Raab insisted on having it removed as a hate crime? Weird choice.

Kingoftheroad · 19/01/2022 08:05

Be careful what you wish for - you might just get it!

The Blair/Milliband debacle was the ruination of the Labour Party.

We could always send done Nicola Sturgeon that’d really set the cat amongst the pigeons, she’d be right at home, embroiled in corruption, lying, avoidance etc She makes Boris look like a choir boy but unfortunately has cult following

CamomileTeabag · 19/01/2022 08:05

Yes, agree; I have no sympathy at all for BJ, he shafted his colleagues and the United Kingdom itself in his pursuit of power so I have no issue with him getting shafted now. He's destroyed all I used to feel proud of in this country; now I'm wholly embarrassed to be English.

But I do weep for the state of our democracy. We used to be a beacon for others across the world to emulate and yet just look at us now, deeply embroiled in this unedifying exhibition of dishonesty and political ambition. None of them care about the UK, all they care about is keeping themselves in power all all costs. They're an utter disgrace, every single one of them.

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 19/01/2022 08:06

Yes and less 100,000 party members will ensure he’s replaced by that ‘nice guy’ billionaire Ayn Rand Brexiteer survival of the fittest believer, Rishi Sunak. Popular whilst giving away tax payers money. When he becomes leader he’ll cut everything to pay for it all. It will be austerity on steroids.

If it’s not Sunak it will be Truss, who couldn’t negotiate her way out of a paper bag. Foreign governments will be rubbing their hands as she gives away of industries in return for nothing.

I won’t shed one tear for the people who voted us in to this position.

Putins Trojan horse (has Cummings ever really explained what he was doing in Russia for all those years?) is laughing his head off. Looks like Aaron Banks (Farage backer) was also bankrolled by Moscow.

BFPDec21 · 19/01/2022 08:08

And who replaces him? Priti? Angry

Tal45 · 19/01/2022 08:09

Rishi Sunak to replace him shortly?

Tal45 · 19/01/2022 08:09

@BFPDec21

And who replaces him? Priti? Angry
Good god talk about out of the frying pan and into the fire!
JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 19/01/2022 08:11

The ‘at least he knows what a woman is!’ types are nuts. When asked what misogyny was, Raab believed it also applied to the abuse of men. The Tories also didn’t want to label misogyny as a hate crime but as long as any of them are openly anti-trans some people on here will vote themselves into poverty and international embarrassment to support them. Bonkers.

Alexandra2001 · 19/01/2022 08:14

@thegcatsmother

It's a distraction from where the focus should be, and you have to wonder, why now? What is Cummings hoping to gain? The media should be looking hard at Ukraine and the German response to Putin, drawing parallels with 20th century history and not getting in a lather about drinks in a garden after work.
Quite but a lying PM is not the sort of person to lead on these issues.

We had influence in Europe, we don't now and thats down to Bojo.

Though if NordStream 2 is halted, then gas prices will literally rocket, as destabilising to Europe/UK as a Russian invasion of Ukraine would be.

The tory party is funded by Russian money, Russian money is awash in London, we wont be standing up to Putin.

CamomileTeabag · 19/01/2022 08:17

@JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil

The ‘at least he knows what a woman is!’ types are nuts. When asked what misogyny was, Raab believed it also applied to the abuse of men. The Tories also didn’t want to label misogyny as a hate crime but as long as any of them are openly anti-trans some people on here will vote themselves into poverty and international embarrassment to support them. Bonkers.
Yes, yes yes!
tara66 · 19/01/2022 08:20

'' Nobody warned me a party at No.10 would be against the rules'' - he is saying today . Surely he said it himself at those 5.00 p.m. TV Covid broadcast he made?

BarrowInFurnessRailwayStation · 19/01/2022 08:21

It's so undignified when they hang on by their fingernails isn't it? The man's an utter embarrassment. Saying that, if he continues in office there's a greater chance of the tories being ousted at the next election, so he could prove useful as awful as it seems for him to continue.

longwayoff · 19/01/2022 08:22

I'll be glad to see him go but I'm not enjoying the slow death. It makes me uncomfortable to watch his increasingly desperate attempts to make us continue to believe his lies. How on earth did he agree to that Sky interview yesterday? (Well done Beth Rigby for not being deflected by the usual guff). I can only conclude that either his advisers dislike him as much as many of the rest of us and thought 'talk your way out of that mate' or that he is blithely carrying on as always, saying what seems expedient at the time, in the belief that we'll keep on buying it. He's simply not up to the job and Big Dog needs to be put out of his misery ASAP.

SueSaid · 19/01/2022 08:25

'It's a massive distraction at a time when the country needs stability. It is no good for anyone. But, of course, Dominic Cummings, the master strategist knows this.'

This.

Our media are a national embarrassment dancing to Cumming's tune. Meanwhile WHO state we are one of the first countries heading out of the pandemic with the fastest economic growth but nope, Paul Brand & Co just aren't interested in that.

YourenutsmiLord · 19/01/2022 08:26

@Beefcurtains79

Can’t get happy at more political instability in this country, making us weaker and more vulnerable.
But he is the cause of much of the instability - corruption, late call on lock down, Brexit outcomes pretty bad and not resolved, stuffing the farmers (rewilding money for the toffs), demanding a whipped vote on Owen Patterson (unreal that he had no clue on this, couldn't have been a worse decision) - he needs to go a never ending catalogue of stuff - have we come out better than most countries on covid - after all the money spent, I don't think so.
MarshaBradyo · 19/01/2022 08:29

Our media are a national embarrassment dancing to Cumming's tune.

It is embarrassing to watch. How we’ve come to Cummings to leading everyone this.

ElftonWednesday · 19/01/2022 08:31

I'm not enjoying it because the media are focused on this rather than how the government are so utterly incompetent that we are all heading towards needing a wheelbarrow of cash to pay for a loaf of bread.

CloudPop · 19/01/2022 08:32

My money is on him surviving this. We'll still be enjoying his leadership this time next year. He's waited his whole life for this, no way is he going to give it up.