Ireland . Tonight . A woman beaten to death in broad daylight

[goodyear2021]

I know this is predominantly
A UK site but I am so full of rage .
Beautiful young girl. 23 year old teacher went for a run at 4pm beaten to death.yesterday afternoon .
What can we do to stop this relaxed attitude to violence against women. We are all hurting here.
AIBU to think that violence against some. Women ever ever be fucking taken seriously .
110 convictions and out on bail murder Ed Ashling on a run way called after another woman who was brutally murdered there.
I'm full
Of sadness and fucking rage . I'm
Done with this shit for our girls.

Of COURSE we know about Sarah Everard @CheeseMmmm fgs!!! Our hearts were broken too.

I’m sick to my stomach thinking the piece of crap who murdered Aisling is probably sleeping soundly in his bed tonight thinking that some foreign alcoholic is taking the rap for his crime. Is he lying next to his unsuspecting wife? Did he tuck his kids into bed? Did he join in on the platitudes and discussions with his family and friends or online about the awful thing that happened in a quiet town, in the middle of the day? He is still out there.

And I’m very conscious that I’m attributing gender. It could very well have been a woman. Unlikely but presumptions can’t and shouldn’t be made.

@TheFoz

And I’m very conscious that I’m attributing gender. It could very well have been a woman. Unlikely but presumptions can’t and shouldn’t be made.

The witnesses said it was a man?

Wow, I'm in England and haven't seen this reported. Poor girl, how awful. May she rest in peace

Therefore best thing to do is learn from mistakes the victim made

Just fuck off

@BeautifulTulips

Wow, I'm in England and haven't seen this reported. Poor girl, how awful. May she rest in peace

It’s being widely reported in the UK

Fair enough. I hadn’t heard of any witness reports or descriptions.

@TheFoz

And I’m very conscious that I’m attributing gender. It could very well have been a woman. Unlikely but presumptions can’t and shouldn’t be made.

Extremely unlikely given the violent crime statistics. I can't believe people walked past this going on and didn't at least call the police even if you felt unsafe to intervene.

@AnyFucker

Therefore best thing to do is learn from mistakes the victim made

Just fuck off

Totally! The best thing women can do is carry on living their lives as they want to in complete freedom. The worst thing they can do is hide themselves away, cover themselves up and disappear from public view. This is all to do with men's behaviour, this is on them.

Therefore best thing to do is learn from mistakes the victim made. Only possible way to address this is for women to keep themselves safe from predators as best they can.

You're part of the problem @CheeseMmmm?

Therefore best thing to do is learn from mistakes the victim made. Only possible way to address this is for women to keep themselves safe from predators as best they can.

Please do tell us exactly which mistakes Aisling made @CheeseMmmm ?

Otherwise your post looks like typical misogynistic victim blaming

I do think that whoever makes the decision that criminals can go out on parole/bail should have to face charges of gross misconduct if their decision results in injury or death of another party. In any other job, it would.

I didn't read CheeseMmmm's posts that way. I think, and I hope she'll tell me if I am wrong, that what she means is that men are never going to be willing to tackle the problems of male violence or change their behaviour. And that whatever women do to avoid assault, when they are assaulted, people will always look for what they did wrong, what mistakes they made and that that will never change either. It's an exhausted sigh of 'I give up, might as well follow all the "rules". Not really victim blaming but feeling defeated.

When I heard about this I also thought of the woman from Dublin who went missing last week and was last seen walking on the beach .

@TheFoz

And I’m very conscious that I’m attributing gender. It could very well have been a woman. Unlikely but presumptions can’t and shouldn’t be made.

What the actual fuck?

Yeah, god forbid we name the problem for what it is - MALE violence.

@TheFoz

And I’m very conscious that I’m attributing gender. It could very well have been a woman. Unlikely but presumptions can’t and shouldn’t be made.

Please link to any other cases where a woman has strangled and beaten another woman in a spontaneous broad daylight attack.

I'd love to see your stats for male versus female violence of this nature

I doubt most women even have the kind of grip strength required to strangle another adult. The idea that "it could very well have been a woman" is just utterly ridiculous.

The initial suspect has been released.

RIP Aisling. Our hearts are broken.

@ISaySteadyOn

I didn't read CheeseMmmm's posts that way. I think, and I hope she'll tell me if I am wrong, that what she means is that men are never going to be willing to tackle the problems of male violence or change their behaviour. And that whatever women do to avoid assault, when they are assaulted, people will always look for what they did wrong, what mistakes they made and that that will never change either. It's an exhausted sigh of 'I give up, might as well follow all the "rules". Not really victim blaming but feeling defeated.

I get the pragmatic approach to women’s safety but if someone says ‘Therefore best thing to do is learn from mistakes the victim made. Only possible way to address this is for women to keep themselves safe from predators as best they can.’, they will be questioned.

Beautiful young girl. 23 year old teacher went for a run at 4pm beaten to death.yesterday afternoon .
What can we do to stop this relaxed attitude to violence against women

WE can do little. Our democracies are supposedly based on the separation of powers, unfortunately they are run by men.

We can rage and scream and nothing is going to change. Change needs to come from within societies and enough women being pissed off to have enough. Until then we rage.

Terrible story. Really shocking. RIP

Is it possible it was a male rage incident? That he was cycling down the path and expected her to make room for him?

I’m just thinking back to the incident in London where a man pushed a women into oncoming traffic and almost killed her,

The law is too lenient on violence towards women and children.

Men’s right to freedom should not trump women and children’s right to life.