Ireland . Tonight . A woman beaten to death in broad daylight

[goodyear2021]

I know this is predominantly
A UK site but I am so full of rage .
Beautiful young girl. 23 year old teacher went for a run at 4pm beaten to death.yesterday afternoon .
What can we do to stop this relaxed attitude to violence against women. We are all hurting here.
AIBU to think that violence against some. Women ever ever be fucking taken seriously .
110 convictions and out on bail murder Ed Ashling on a run way called after another woman who was brutally murdered there.
I'm full
Of sadness and fucking rage . I'm
Done with this shit for our girls.

The person arrested has been released and is no longer a suspect.

Sorry posted by accident, I hope the person responsible is found. She was just at the beginning of her life it’s heartbreaking x

Well let's see how 'big brave and hard" he is behind bars. The disgusting brute.
The system is also partly to blame, though.

110 prior convictions, yet he was still waltzing around free. Oh and if he does have a mental disorder. He should have monitored better.
Deepest thoughts prayers and condolences to all her family.
Sleep peacefully beautiful Aisling.

Her poor little students, too.

Tragic. There’s another thread running about this too. My heart goes out to her parents especially and all the little children and their parents. Can’t imagine having to explain this to my small children if it was their teacher. Hopefully the man who did it will be apprehended soon and the family can know some peace that he isn’t out running the streets.

That poor young woman. How dare anyone steal her life.

Please stop referring to the person as 'beautiful young woman'.

It appears that your outrage is intensified because she was beautiful and young.

Surely any woman's murder no matter whether beautiful or not, young or not, is an outrage.

@OldieWordly

Please stop referring to the person as 'beautiful young woman'.

It appears that your outrage is intensified because she was beautiful and young.

Surely any woman's murder no matter whether beautiful or not, young or not, is an outrage.

This.

This was described as a 'random attack', but how random was it?

Random meant this bastard would pick anyone, but he didn't, did he?

He didn't batter a man, he overwhelmed and beat someone smaller and less able to put up a fight.

Random my arse.

The spotlight needs to focus on the judiciary, sentences for violent crimes is far too lenient, so many vicious thugs have double or treble number previous cases yet the revolving door system is failing victims.

It's a gravy train for the judiciary. Legal aid should be capped to one or two times a person is charged so if they re-offend then they pay for legal representation themselves or they're on their own. Limitless free legal aid is an abuse of tax payers money.

So bloody awful.
That men just think they're entitled to take a woman's life like this - it's a fucking outrage and it needs to be stopped.
It's the same in Australia and probably every other fucking country in the world - I still remember that poor woman, Jill Meagher, being killed by that convicted rapist after he was released on parole in Melbourne - but very little has changed to protect women since then. They've apparently "tightened the parole laws" but only obviously on what happens to them if they break parole conditions, not on them actually GETTING parole.
And I never understand how they get out on "good behaviour" - if they've been in prison with no women to attack, then of course they haven't been able to repeat their crimes IN prison - but once OUT... well.

They shouldn't get parole and their sentences should be a lot fucking longer.

Women are not second-class humans who can be disposed of like animals when some man feels like it, and I'm SICK of the law not seeming to understand this.

There is a huge problem involving violent offenders who should not be at large.

Somehow there has developed a vast disconnect between what people would support in terms of sentencing and how prosecution is conducted, including bailing, sentencing, and parole.

I can see people taking the law into their own hands when the legal system appears to be failing them. I'm the last person to grab my pitchfork and take to the streets, but something has to be done to make the criminal justice system actually guarantee that Ireland isn't Afghanistan West when it comes to women's personal freedom. Women's safety matters.

The men need to stand up.

When will they?

Men? You there?

THIS ^^

Therefore best thing to do is learn from mistakes the victim made. Only possible way to address this is for women to keep themselves safe from predators as best they can.

Yes. For example, only going out in the daytime! Oh no wait she was out in the daytime having a run at the time when many of us are returning from work. Well what about not wearing revealing clothing? Hmm she was dressed to go running. I mean you shouldn’t be falling about the streets drunk - oh she wasn’t, she was out running to look after her body and stay fit. Well definitely you need to have a respectable career and not be one of ‘those girls.’ Hang on, she was a teacher of young children…

What mistakes did the victim make? Just so I can tell my dd to avoid them. Perhaps I should tell her only to leave the house with a male chaperone? And of course hope that chaperone isn’t one of the bad ones and doesn’t kill her?

The above is about conceding defeat.
It's also a distraction/psychological self protection thing.

Actually acknowledging, consciously recognising, thinking about, having the emotional reaction to the actual full reality of the level of MVAWG, accepting that it's not the occasional monster, knowing that the protect yourself idea is victim blaming and does fuck all for the prevalence. Facing up to the police failings.

It's huge upsetting and once accepted can't be undone. The rage, hopelessness, grief, frustration is s lot to take on.

And of course the deep seated societal urge to prioritise men.

Therefore best thing to do is learn from mistakes the victim made. Only possible way to address this is for women to keep themselves safe from predators as best they can.

What a load of shit. Men can't help being animals so we have to hide away all our lives, is that what you're saying? How does that work in countries where women are covered head to foot, chaperoned everywhere and never leave the house? Oh yeah, they get murdered too. Fucking idiot.
She was going for a run.

No CheeseMmmm she did not make any 'mistakes'. This kind of thinking puts blame on the woman for existing and going about her life. I am so tired of people twisting themselves in knots looking for ways to blame women for rape.

This is the kind of thinking that led to this travesty where a judge blamed a rape victim and party hosts after a 16-year old's rape: www.news.com.au/world/north-america/rape-victims-fury-as-judge-reverses-conviction-and-blames-parents/news-story/3cbef6dbc71e26cc0c9cbc4505e3b24e

And this one where a man served no jail time after assaulting a 14-year-old: www.foxnews.com/us/virginia-judge-who-let-rapist-walk-free-sentences-man-in-sex-assault-case-to-no-jail-time

Deepest sympathy to Aisling's family. She deserved so much better.

In a case here you prob heard of over in Ireland but no worries if not.

Woman was kidnapped by being 'arrested' by a serving police officer.
He had committed an obvious red flag he's escalating indecent exposure few days before. Police had not done anything even though gave his car reg which was really his IE search says car belongs this police officer.
He previously had one police report indecent exposure. Nothing done. When seen on record for check when he changing force or something. Police confirm that no problem for checks.
Also one other report exposure but name not given, not sure how they now know him but anyway.
He was known as the rapist by colleagues.
In watsapp groups godawful content.
Etc.

Off back of that murder.
Turns out met police have not looked into hundreds of public reports of sex crimes by officers.
Other forces too.
No mention of making indecent exposure crime to always investigate. Even though that's this murderer pathway to murder. And it's been known for decades the high risk of escalation with flashers.
And loads like that.

So YES there are obvious immediate in your face improvements that could be made.

Where are they then? Why the hell aren't they urgently being done?

THAT is obscene. The POLICE don't care (well the met don't anyway that's been known for years).

If the police don't give a shit about MVAWG unless it's really horrific crime.

Then ... Well I mean how do you change that?

And tonight (your time, today, here), a woman, her 6 year old, and both been murdered, looks as if the 10 year old escaped. The husband is in hospital, with critical self inflicted injuries.

You'd think that would be painful enough, but know. The chill went up my back when, for the millionth time this year the newsreader added "the husband was already known to the police". Every time. These fuckers are always known to the police.

Thinking of women in Ireland, and women everywhere, and their families.

Therefore best thing to do is learn from mistakes the victim made. Only possible way to address this is for women to keep themselves safe from predators as best they can

Yes, let's just forget all the western platitudes about human rights and only venture forth if we have a male chaperone.

Or maybe we could teach men not to rape and require that they hole each other to a high standard of behaiour. Is that a mind boggling idea?

*hold

So very sad. R.I.P. Aisling.

@WizbitsLeftEye

What relaxed attitude? Pretty sure we are not all relaxed over any violence against women (or children or vulnerable folk).

But jeezus. Broad daylight? I hope they catch the perpetrator. Hopefully someone saw something. Her poor family. A friend of mine was lucky to escape from a male attacker before covid. A previous/ repeat offender. He was caught and put away. It's a relief that they don't all get away with it. But it was a massive, sick shock when we all heard.

Holy fuck would you listen to ypurself? What's wrong with running in daylight or in the dark. And why do you assume this person was vulnerable? Or any other person having a run by a popular canal that's murdered just for being there? That's exactly the problem right there. It's because the murderer was there. That's why.

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz

Its disgusting.

Our police forces and our courts are heavily dominated by men. We will never get misogyny recognised for what it actually is - a hate crime - while all these men lead the culture of playing down all levels of violence around women and girls.

You said it. This is the key right here.

Laws were create by old white men for old white men.