Young woman murdered running, what sort of world is this?!?

[irishfarmer]

A young woman was murdered yesterday in Tullamore, Ireland while out for a run at 4pm. It is not a dangerous area, she was on a popular route along the canal, in day light! These things just do not happen here. I am in total shock. It was a random, unprovoked attack. It's just so awful, 23 years old her whole life ahead of her. She was a teacher so had probably just finished work for the day and wanted to de-stress.

AIBU to think this poor girl should have been able to go for a run on a lovely winter afternoon safely? I know I am not BU just don't know where else to post. I am truly shocked and horrified.

Horrific. My DH looked confused when I explained my running route as it’s very busy and actually quite inconvenient dodging tourists and cyclists. He has the luxury of choosing the beautiful forest… or anywhere really.

It should not have happened, my heart goes out to her family and the other joggers who witnessed the attack.

Awful. And of course she should be able to run at anytime day or night.

Poor woman and her family.

Absolutely heartbreaking.

RIP Ashling

I was shocked! Tills more of all places. May she rest in peace. Condolences to her family

I’ve just read about this. It’s a shocking incident and appears to have happens in the presence of witnesses too.

I do so many things to keep safe whilst running. It makes me think what's the point. So sad and angry.

I read this earlier. My DH is from near Tullamore. Just feel shocked. RIP.

*Tullamore not tills.

I live rurally about an hours drive from there and honestly wouldn't think twice about going out alone for a walk especially in day light it just shocks me. I know it makes no difference but she really was a beautiful girl. It's all just so shocking and sad. They seem to have caught the man, no surprise there it was a man. Two other women found her, they must be in some state.

www.rte.ie/news/2022/0113/1273394-tullamore-murder-investigation/

Awful, heartbreaking and all too bloody common.

The thing is, will it ever change? No matter what steps we take towards equality, in a vast majority of cases we can never be equal. By and large men can overpower, rape and murder us and there are minimal efforts we can take to protect ourselves.

It's terrifying to me.

Someone bold enough to kill in broad daylight when it’s likely (and it happened) that someone comes across the crime being committed…..sadly it’s unlikely it’s the first time he’s attacked someone. Poor woman.

This is exactly why I get up at 6am on weekends and accompany my daughter on her runs.

It’s horrific. I live in the UK but am home in Dublin at the moment and am listening to all the coverage on the radio.

Poor poor girl.

A world where men feel they have the right to take a woman’s life.

Women have to accept they are violent and day or night you could be murdered. It’s sad to even think this way, but how long have we been asking men not to kill us?

And men wonder why we act afraid when they walk behind us and why we edit our lives so much to avoid unnecessary contact with them.

How many times have each of us mapped a way home to be safe? How many times have we avoided a route so we aren’t attacked? This is the sort of world we live in where we can’t even walk down the road without having to make sure we are not accosted. Even if so called “safe” areas. Women will still risk asses and try to make sure we will be ok.

May this young woman get Justice and I pray for her family to find peace and solace because the pain and grief they must be feeling I can’t imagine.

@MarshmallowSwede

A world where men feel they have the right to take a woman’s life.

Women have to accept they are violent and day or night you could be murdered. It’s sad to even think this way, but how long have we been asking men not to kill us?

And men wonder why we act afraid when they walk behind us and why we edit our lives so much to avoid unnecessary contact with them.

How many times have each of us mapped a way home to be safe? How many times have we avoided a route so we aren’t attacked? This is the sort of world we live in where we can’t even walk down the road without having to make sure we are not accosted. Even if so called “safe” areas. Women will still risk asses and try to make sure we will be ok.

May this young woman get Justice and I pray for her family to find peace and solace because the pain and grief they must be feeling I can’t imagine.

I agree that this is absolutely horrific, and condolences to her family and friends.

I wonder if you meant to write 'some men' though, and not just 'men'.

I wonder if you meant to write 'some men' though, and not just 'men'.

🙄

That didn’t take long.

Whilst cases like this are shocking, we must try to remember that statistically we're much more likely to be murdered at home. We shouldn't be afraid of going outside for exercise or whatever reason - we're safer jogging down a dark alley that we are at home with our family.

Imagine coming onto a thread about the recent, horrifying murder of a woman and deciding it’s necessary to post a Not All Men reprimand. That’s actually shameful.

@DoTheyKnowItsLemonJuice

Imagine coming onto a thread about the recent, horrifying murder of a woman and deciding it’s necessary to post a Not All Men reprimand. That’s actually shameful.

It wasn't a reprimand, actually, it was a genuine question? We all now that some males are horrific creatures who do things like this (as are some females), but language using the blanket term 'men' does not help this situation. I stand by both my comments, 1. that this is horrific, and 2. that 'some men' is a more appropriate term. Blanket blaming helps no one.

@Elodeastar
”I wonder if you meant to write 'some men' though, and not just 'men'.”

Yes, let’s focus on poor mens feelings.
Until misogyny end, it’s all men.
Because we can never know which one of them it’s going to be.
If this is hurtful to men, then they know how they can stop it.

some men' is a more appropriate term. Blanket blaming helps no one

There’s a time and a place for that discussion though and I don’t think this thread is it.

@CorneliusVetch

some men' is a more appropriate term. Blanket blaming helps no one

There’s a time and a place for that discussion though and I don’t think this thread is it.

You perhaps have a point, and I initially came here to express my horror at what happened. I guess the comment about 'men', just bothered me - l kind of understand the gut reaction to behind the comment but it is dangerous territory to label it all men. There will be lots of men equally aghast at what has happened, and it's unfair to group all together.

RIP Ashling.

@Elodeastar my experience is that actually it is “all men” who don’t understand why we feel afraid. Sure, my husband (as an example) might nod his head when I say, “no, I’m not running my usual route tonight because it’ll be twilight by the end and it might not be safe” (in our lovely quiet low crime village). But honestly, he thinks I’m just being sensibly cautious, but more than needed. He has no idea of the fear. Not really. You can throw all the stats you like at me about young men and knife crime too… but fact is I don’t know a single man who would change his run route in my village at twilight. Men might nod and believe we feel afraid - but they (all the menz) have not idea how that fear feels, and how frustrated and angry and powerless those frequent small adjustments make me. For my husband, it’s just a sensible change of route, no biggie. For me - it encapsulates that some men hate me because I am a woman. That’s crushing.

It wasn't a reprimand, actually, it was a genuine question?

No, it wasn’t. You didn’t “genuinely” wonder if the person you quoted actually intended to write “some men” but somehow forgot, and accidentally wrote “men” multiple times

You were making a point and correcting her in a passive-aggressive, “gentle” way. It was highly inappropriate here. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.