To feel 0 sympathy-24 hours in police custody *MNHQ adding content warning for distressing information regarding a child*

[Menmy3]

AIBU to have absolutely no sympathy for poor baby Teddie’s useless mother. Going from one man to the next allowing one into her home that was clearly abusing her children and not protecting them. I know she was the victim of DV and usually I’d be advocating for her 100% but she showed no emotion, no remorse. Those poor babies.

I was just coming here to say something about this because I'm a police officer

I sincerely hope to go now that people can see how difficult it is to try to protect some women from domestic violence and how incredibly harrowing it is for the police officers involved in such terrible investigations .

The police get the blame so often for failures.
If this programme gave one minuscule iota of an idea abkut how difficult it can be to try and help some people who refuse to engage , or how terrible it is to try and safeguard women and children when the victim constantly refuses to engage - and the perpetrators just get away with this shot again and again - then I'm glad this was aired .

I watched both parts tonight. Kane Mitchell was textbook narcissist bully. The absolute state of him in that wheelchair, about getting into the police car.

Lucci Smith was covering for someone who murdered her son. She had to have known what was going on & what he did. Her sentence was a disgrace & I hope it’s reviewed.

Anyone who murders a child should receive an automatic whole life tariff.

Sadly too many women allow this to happen. They out their needs ahead of their children. Sometimes there is no excuse, no matter how hard people try and find excuses for behaviour like this. It is simply selfishness. And not just from he mother either. If the children are hit by the new man, the feckless dad comes crying out of the woodwork about how he tried to warn people about his children being hurt.

@stillvicarinatutu

I was just coming here to say something about this because I'm a police officer

I sincerely hope to go now that people can see how difficult it is to try to protect some women from domestic violence and how incredibly harrowing it is for the police officers involved in such terrible investigations .

The police get the blame so often for failures.
If this programme gave one minuscule iota of an idea abkut how difficult it can be to try and help some people who refuse to engage , or how terrible it is to try and safeguard women and children when the victim constantly refuses to engage - and the perpetrators just get away with this shot again and again - then I'm glad this was aired .

My friend is a police man, he says they go to a domestic and even when they can see what’s happened there is nothing they can do as the victim in so vehement in their defence. If that’s the life she chooses then that’s her choice, do not let your baby lose it’s life for your choice 😭

@stillvicarinatutu Yes, that’s what I found difficult. When they were interviewing her, she wasn’t even dismissing it out of fear. It seemed as if she could genuinely not see anything wrong with his behaviour.

She as good as murdered that boy but she was allowed to hide behind a man and get away with it. Happens all the time.

Kane was a killer but honestly she scared me the most.

She’s already pregnant with her next child.

God help us.

Kane is an absolutely disgusting, vile, cruel, disgusting excuse for a human being.
I know she was sucked in. By fuck me - the older child’s testimony and the injuries to that poor baby.
I have one dead baby (stillborn) and one seriously disabled DD. What I, and many other women and men, would give for a beautiful healthy baby.
What he did, and she covered for, is incomprehensible

She seemed incredibly disconnected I thought. She showed zero interest in her babies injuries. Asked no questions whatsoever, passed the sheet of paper with the diagram of the broken bones back after a cursory glance. It was chilling.

As for him. He is psychopathic.

What's even harder - when that sub human piece of excrement was screaming in the response cops face - been there . And all you actually want to do is baton them right in their fowl mouth because they're a baby murdering piece of shit - and you just have to stay professional, let them scream abuse at you and cart them off into a van in cuffs while the screaming partner calls you all the names under the sun because of course you've got it wrong and they "done nuffin".
That man broke an 11 week old baby's collarbones, spine ribs and then killed him with a skull fracture.
I do hope this gave some insight into what the police deal with and how professional we remain in the face of such provocation.

It was satisfying when they wheeled him into the lift though.

She deserves to be in prison too.

I can't believe how cold she was. As someone pointed out in the TV section thread, she showed more emotion when hearing what witnesses had said about her and her vermin boyfriend than she did when hearing about her baby's horrific injuries.

Full face of slap on when her 12 week old baby has been murdered. Unbelievable.

It was very hard to sympathise. She appeared not be be that bothered about her baby and his catastrophic injuries. Her main emotions were invested in this man she'd been with for less than a year.

Both of them were truly inadequate in every way imaginable.

And while 2 women a week on average are killed by their partners and it doesn't hit the national headlines ....same goes for child cruelty and neglect. You hear nothing of what actually happens.

I stayed up to watch both parts this evening, I was sickened from start to finish. The minute it was over I went and lifted my tiny baby from her crib and I'm still sat holding her now. How anyone can hurt these tiny innocent little souls is utterly incomprehensible. The evil in some people just oozes from them, Kane deserves to rot and the fact that poor little boys "mother" got a community order? Baffling.

@stillvicarinatutu

I was just coming here to say something about this because I'm a police officer

I sincerely hope to go now that people can see how difficult it is to try to protect some women from domestic violence and how incredibly harrowing it is for the police officers involved in such terrible investigations .

The police get the blame so often for failures.
If this programme gave one minuscule iota of an idea abkut how difficult it can be to try and help some people who refuse to engage , or how terrible it is to try and safeguard women and children when the victim constantly refuses to engage - and the perpetrators just get away with this shot again and again - then I'm glad this was aired .

Yes agree 109 per cent As the woman who lied and tried to protect my abuser there was no talking to me m Friends tried Agencies tried

Police were amazing I must say

It just took so long to see him for who he is

Awful

@RunningFromInsanity

It was satisfying when they wheeled him into the lift though.

Dd and I appreciated that moment too.

I also felt some satisfaction that he'd acquired similar injuries to those he inflicted on poor Teddie and his own actions pushed the balance to get him finally charged and locked up.

It was a chilling programme. The voice of one of Lucci's children describing what he'd done and calling him "Ugly Kane" was heartbreaking.

I couldn't believe Lucci didn't receive a custodial sentence for her part in Teddie's death. The way she calmly looked at the paper showing his injuries but then burst into tears when told Kane was not the father. Indicated perfectly every her priorities lay.

Queenie
Sounds like the scales fell from your eyes at some point xx

What happened when they wheeled him into the lift? I watched it but don't remember

I've watched he'd both parts this evening, actually live about 20 minutes from the town they live in, being pregnant at the moment, I've sat and cried through both parts.

How? How was she so calm and collected when her baby was in that state? How wasn't she in pieces?
How could she allow him to touch her?

If my baby were in that state, my husbands a dick in some ways but hasn't got a violent bone in his body, I think I would be questioning what on earth happened for my baby to be in that state. I don't think I'd be able to have him touch me..
The minute the police explained they were arresting him and a Dr explained the injuries don't just happen, I don't understand how as a mother who hasn't harmed her child doesn't at that moment step away? Wouldn't the normal reaction be to question how your baby got those injuries?

If your partner was violent to you, then your baby had those injuries, wouldn't you just think that it was him?

How do you ignore that he was hurting your children?

How do you continue to protect him when your baby is dead?

Fucking hell, so much I don't understand. How was she not an absolute mess?

I don't think I'll ever grasp how not only did it happen, but she covered for him after.

stillvicarinatutu

The police were great in the programme, I cannot imagine how you deal with this sort of thing day after day. Incredible.

@stillvicarinatutu

Queenie Sounds like the scales fell from your eyes at some point xx

Yes true and then one day I had an awakening and went to the police They were amazing and helped me get the bastard to court

Those poor kids !!!!

And the dog also
Sometimes these bastards use the pets as chess pawns too 😡😡

I felt more emotion hearing about poor Teddies injuries than his mother did. How she’s allowed another child is beyond me. She should be in prison.

Let’s hope her children get the support and supervision they need.

In the last two weeks I've personally been involved in 3 terrible child cruelty cases and a murder of a newborn baby .
These things don't just happen on eve in a blue moon . They happen every single day . And unless people report , engage - it will keep happening day in and day out .

@TansySorrel

What happened when they wheeled him into the lift? I watched it but don't remember

It was an 'unfortunately' bumpy transition ...

• once in a blue moon ffs