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To not understand why some people think that they have to same surname as their child?

230 replies

SalonSharon · 03/01/2022 17:37

I don’t have the same surname as my children and I’ve never had a problems with this.

Why is it so important to some Mumsnetters?

OP posts:
StevieNicksscarf · 03/01/2022 22:33

Well this thread is certainly making me smile Grin

I now realise that after nigh on 30 years of being in a happy and supportive relationship with DP we are nothing more than housemates as we haven't publicly declared our commitment. Strange also that several family members who did make such a commitment later divorced due to infidelity Hmm even though they were doing it "right".

Also learned that our family (2 DC) is not really a family, let alone a "tribe".

My DC have their fathers name (a joint decision as I have a French name that no British bugger has ever been able to pronounce let alone spell correctly and hated growing up). After 50+ years I now find that I have grown strangely attached to it. We asked our DC if they would like to double barrel their names. Initially they were quite excited but after a few days the thought of having to constantly spell it made them think again.

My DC have never been bothered by having a different name and I have travelled with them, been to hospital with them etc etc with no trauma.

To cap it off I have brazenly worn a ring on my wedding finger for the best part of 25 years .... without being married Shock.

Crikey what on earth have I been doing all these years!! And What will people think?? Here's the thing... IDGAF Grin

OllyBJolly · 03/01/2022 23:45

@MajorCarolDanvers

Imagine being cross about someone else surname choice. 🤷‍♀️
Well, every time a woman takes a man’s name it reinforces the patriarchy. That makes me cross.
Puffalicious · 04/01/2022 00:52

@DynamiteFilledRadish

Reading all the comments on here I honestly think it boils down to marriage still being seen as the ultimate prize for a woman. People expressing horror that school would think you're not married or, even more sickening, a wicked stepmother!! This idea that being Mrs MansName is something that women strive for. It's been internalised in many of the commenters on this thread. I find it depressing. We don't need men to keep us down, we do it to each other.
Absolutely
NoNotMeNoSiree · 04/01/2022 01:17

@SalonSharon

I don’t have the same surname as my children and I’ve never had a problems with this.

Why is it so important to some Mumsnetters?

Not RTFT, but I got married and had kids and we all have the same surname. We're all part of the same family unit. Why would I want to have a separate name? Would kind of feel like keeping myself apart from everyone else.
Willyoujustbequiet · 04/01/2022 01:40

@NoNotMeNoSiree

Because some people see their name as central to their identity and don't want to change it on marriage regardless of children.
I didn't want to have a different name though so I gave my children mine. My exdh could have changed his to mine if he thought we should all be the same but funnily enough he didn't.

Fidgetty · 04/01/2022 02:45

I can see why some people think it's important but I don't have the same surname as my DH or our DC and it's never, ever been an issue. It was much more important to me that I kept my own name after marriage. I can't think of any time when the DC having a different name has even come up in conversation. A complete non issue. I would have preferred to have given them a double barrelled name but that looks a bit wanky IMO and my name is foreign and difficult for most people to spell so I didn't want to do them that disservice.

Fidgetty · 04/01/2022 03:06

I am obviously in the minority but I find it totally cringe being “the Lucys” or whatever.

I have to agree. I have an acquaintance on Facebook who, since she got married, does a hashtag of her husbands name after all her posts. Every single thing she posts is followed by #teamjones. It makes me wince! It's the same mentality as those women who "love" being called Mrs DHs Name as it makes them soooo proud. It denotes a type doesn't it? A live-laugh-love type. Mortifying anti-feminist guff.

Curlyreine · 04/01/2022 07:02

@MajorCarolDanvers

Imagine being cross about someone else surname choice. 🤷‍♀️
Quite
Libertynan · 04/01/2022 07:06

I don't get why the baby (usually) gets the father's surname.

I wasn't married to my baby's father hence the baby got my surname. That caused quite a kerfuffle amongst that side of the family.

As it happened we didn't ever get married so me and my child have the same surname still. Seems fair to me.

peboh · 04/01/2022 07:13

Why does it matter? My child has the same surname as both dh and I, as I took his name when we got married.
5 of my nieces and nephews have different surnames to their mums, because they don't have their partners name. They're all loved as equally as I love my child. We're no more a family unit than they are. It's just a personal choice we made, and they made. Why get so amped up about a name?

chaosrabbitland · 04/01/2022 07:16

because i dont want my daughter to feel different , i could go back to my maiden name ,but i wont , i dont want her to feel like her surname , which is her dads is not good enough for me

NashvilleQueen · 04/01/2022 07:24

I gave my children my surname because to all intents and purposes I brought them up. They see their father but high days and holidays only. There's no way they were having amusing name because of tradition or symbolism.

NashvilleQueen · 04/01/2022 07:25

His name! Not amusing Wink

notanothertakeaway · 04/01/2022 08:17

@RedCandyApple

To add I cannot change it without his permission which he won’t give despite not seeing her.
@RedCandyApple

I know some children who are informally known as "X mother's surname", although birth certificate says "X father's surname"

Might that work for your children? Could cause confusion but might be worth exploring

notanothertakeaway · 04/01/2022 08:22

@StevieNicksscarf

Well this thread is certainly making me smile Grin

I now realise that after nigh on 30 years of being in a happy and supportive relationship with DP we are nothing more than housemates as we haven't publicly declared our commitment. Strange also that several family members who did make such a commitment later divorced due to infidelity Hmm even though they were doing it "right".

Also learned that our family (2 DC) is not really a family, let alone a "tribe".

My DC have their fathers name (a joint decision as I have a French name that no British bugger has ever been able to pronounce let alone spell correctly and hated growing up). After 50+ years I now find that I have grown strangely attached to it. We asked our DC if they would like to double barrel their names. Initially they were quite excited but after a few days the thought of having to constantly spell it made them think again.

My DC have never been bothered by having a different name and I have travelled with them, been to hospital with them etc etc with no trauma.

To cap it off I have brazenly worn a ring on my wedding finger for the best part of 25 years .... without being married Shock.

Crikey what on earth have I been doing all these years!! And What will people think?? Here's the thing... IDGAF Grin

@StevieNicksscarf

Out of interest, is the ring on your wedding finger a ring which outsiders would likely perceive / assume is a wedding ring? If so, what's the rationale for wearing it, of you're not married? Genuinely interested by this, not having a go

StevieNicksscarf · 04/01/2022 08:47

@Notanothertakeaway - we had decided quite early in our relationship that marriage wasn't important to us. After about 5 years we had been through quite a tricky patch and come out the other side. My partner wanted to buy me a ring and the one we chose looked good on my wedding finger. I think it also appealed as we were at that stage where everyone was asking us when we getting married so I guess it was a little bit of rebellion 😁. I am actually quite a conventional person in many ways but the whole expectation around marriage used to really piss me off. Probably sounds a bit lame to some people but it was me just saying "I can wear a ring on this finger and the world won't end even if I'm not married". At the end of the day it's just a ring. BTW it's not a band like a wedding ring but it has a stone (not a diamond as I don't like them).

Nanny0gg · 04/01/2022 08:59

@SalonSharon

I don’t have the same surname as my children and I’ve never had a problems with this.

Why is it so important to some Mumsnetters?

Because we're a family and families tend to have the same name
Nanny0gg · 04/01/2022 09:02

@theremustonlybeone

Whose family name are we talking about? I am laughing here at folks saying its important as we are a family unit. Why have your DC not got your name and your DP/DH not taken on yours?

There is no reason for a woman to have a different name as the child she birthed

Because I much preferred my husband's name to mine.

Lifetime of bullying. Couldn't wait to get rid of it

Needdoughnuts · 04/01/2022 09:09

But if it was that bad why wait for marriage? Just change it! You don't need a man to enable you to change your name

furbabymama87 · 04/01/2022 09:12

I can understand why people want the same name. It's about being a family unit, but I don't have the same name as my kids. My kids have my maiden name and I have my husband's name ( he's not their biological dad) Our youngest child who is my husband's has a hyphen name of my maiden name and our surname so he's got that connection to his siblings. It's not ideal, I'd prefer us to all have the same surname but I don't think it really matters. They're all still my kids.

Beechview · 04/01/2022 09:21

I am married and don’t have the same surname as my Dcs. I didn’t want to change my name when I got married. To me, my name is part of my identity, it has a sense of my roots and I didn’t want to give that up and adopt a new one.
I’ve travelled abroad with my dcs and there’s never been an issue.
I’m also comfortable using Mr and Mrs dh’s name or calling us the ‘MrBeechviewsdhname’ for any reason.

vivainsomnia · 04/01/2022 09:22

Can't it make things a bit awkward if you're going abroad with the child without the parent who has their surname?
No it isn't. Many children don't have the same surname as their mothers.

I once travelled with my husband, kids and two friends of theirs. 6 passports, 5 different names. Customs didn't bat an eyelid either way.

I've never experienced an issue with it at school, GP/hospital, travel or anything else.

It's really not about this.

eggandonion · 04/01/2022 09:37

My husband's uncle advised me that we'd never be able to get a mortgage with different names.
A lot of people seem convinced that life is impossible without a 'married name'. It really isn't!

notanothertakeaway · 04/01/2022 09:40

@StevieNicksscarf

Thanks for replying. It interests me because I know someone who is not married, but uses her partner's surname and wears a wedding ring. I've sometimes wondered if it's because she wants people to think that she's married

Nietzschethehiker · 04/01/2022 09:58

To be honest the breathtakingly ignorant posts wittering that you aren't a family if you don't share the last name or that you are housemates that share a child should be pitied more than anything, I mean that's an outstanding amount of insecurity to honestly dismiss other people's families that way. Consider how depressing it must feel to believe the only thing that unites you is a name? Not like, commitment which doesn't require legality....nope just a name.

I want to clarify I mean that only for those who put down other relationships for not sharing the same name...that is truly quite sad.

People have different reasons. I was married before my DC were born. The marriage ended after. I have kept my exdh name for now because for my DC personally (not the same for everyone) it helped them keep a concept of family when everything else was changing. They struggled at very young ages not to feel like they were losing their family.

Now many years on , we have a different unit. My DP has proposed and I am considering the name situation now. The DC are old enough to understand what the family is (and they absolutely see it as a family) however I am now at the age where I am rather sick of having my fathers name or my ex husbands name or my future husbands name.

I'm personally a little tired of having to use a man's name. However for a long time it was absolutely important for my DC that mum had the same name as them. I couldn't car else's for any faux head tilting confusion over why, it's not a great leap to realise different circumstances work in different ways. It's not something people don't understand its that they think that by wording it as something confusing makes people think they are right.

It's incredibly simple. People do what works for them and its got absolutely nothing to do with anyone else that doesn't share that name.