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AIBU?

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AIBU - ‘Supportive’ friends upon partner dying.

182 replies

london2022 · 30/12/2021 16:40

My partner died suddenly 4 weeks ago (no underlying health issues - not COVID etc…) and I was obviously devastated. If I’m being frank; I have had a traumatic few weeks and couldn’t have told you what day of the week it was. I barely slept - and when I did - I would ‘crash’. I had no appetite… and just was in a terrible state. I called my friend the next morning - who was very sweet on the phone and said I should meet her/we could go for a walk or a coffee. Or both. She has a one year old baby (who I assumed she would bring with as I’m unsure if she is still breastfeeding). So I suggested our ‘usual’ quiet place (where we’ve been to with the baby - but we’ve obviously sat outside when with the baby). It is a neighbourhood restaurant - also with bar seating - and we often sit at the bar with some tea/coffee. Obviously I wasn’t looking to go out and drink/party. Clearly. I simply needed to get some air - and get off my phone as all I had been doing was making/fielding calls. Also; as mentioned; it’s our ‘usual spot’ - so we would both know what to ‘expect’ at such a place.

I’m en route - and she texted me with a change of destination. Asking to meet at a coffee place. I said ‘no problem’ as it was a 2 minute walk from where we were supposed to meet. I get there - and her husband and other unruly toddler is there. He gives me a hug and then says: ‘EEEEK!! You ok?’

The place is FULL of screaming kids - and even two who were jumping on the seats/booth next to us - whilst coughing everywhere. Where they were seated; was right next to the ‘coffee collection’ point - and so I was essentially back-to-back with people awaiting their order and baristas shouting out names. Another table had a child smash an iPad on the floor - and for some reason; I just wanted to cry at that alone.

I was on the verge of tears when I got there due to my personal situation - and if I’m being totally honest; didn’t feel like shouting (due to the noise) about my now-deceased partner in front of an extraordinarily busy coffee shop. She then shouted (over the table/her kids): ‘SO HE’S DEAD?! WHAT THE FUCK?!?!” I just stared at her and started crying.

She then asked me to get her a coffee - which I did (as I wanted a cup of tea anyway).

Whilst I don’t mean to sound self-indulgent; I found her behaviour just totally insensitive. Her husband then kept asking for all the ‘details’ (which is fine - but again; I didn’t feel like raising my voice to explain) and then later asked me to read his son a book…

I left about 20 minutes later.

AUBU to feel bitter - even now - a few weeks later - that this was ‘support’…? (Please feel free to say whatever you honestly think).

I’m aware everyone obviously has their own lives/families/careers - as do I - but honestly; I got home - cried more than I already had - and slept for 14 hours afterwards. They didn’t reach again out until 9 days ago - to ask if I was free for drinks.

I sent them a response text stating I wouldn’t be going to their Christmas party - and they said: ‘OH NO! What’s the matter?’

I know my state of mind is a messed up one due to sheer grief - but AIBU?! I felt totally unsupported - and I’m not even a precious person. Truly. If anything; I’m that typical British stoic!

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murasaki · 30/12/2021 16:42

I'm so sorry, that sounds awful. Being charitable to them ,maybe they didn't know how to react, but I think they got it very wrong.

TheGirlOnTheLanding · 30/12/2021 16:44

Deep sympathies for your loss. You must still be in shock. Your friends handled the situation very badly indeed. That doesn't mean they're bad people but they clearly aren't going to be the kind of support you need. I hope other friends can offer you that in the weeks and months ahead.

Cheeseandlobster · 30/12/2021 16:44

I am so sorry. That sounds totally insensitive and I don't blame you for finding it too much

WhenSheWasBad · 30/12/2021 16:44

I don’t really know what to say op.

I’m just so so sorry. Your friend really shouldn’t have picked a rowdy coffee shop. Or brought her husband along.

They sound incredibly insensitive.

Spiderysummer · 30/12/2021 16:46

They have totally got it wrong on how to react but not intentionally. I'm so sorry, you sound like you are going through a dreadful time. Maybe say that you would like to speak to your friend without the children or psrtner in a quiet location and see what the response is.

Starcaller · 30/12/2021 16:46

That sounds really horrible.

Trying to be charitable, maybe it wasn't intentionally done, but it was very thoughtless even so, and YANBU to be upset about it at all.

I'm so sorry for the loss of your husband Thanks

endofthelinefinally · 30/12/2021 16:46

This is pretty normal IME. Over the next few months you will discover who your real friends are. The ones who care enough to keep trying, even if they don't quite get it right at first.
You will find that some people you didn't think of as close friends will actually come through for you and will become good friends.
You will make new friends, usually people that get it, who have been through the same experience and understand.
And some people you thought were good friends will disappear.
I am so very sorry for your loss. Flowers

M1RR0R · 30/12/2021 16:47

Nope. She would no longer be a friend!
Sorry for your loss Flowers

icelollycraving · 30/12/2021 16:48

They sound utterly insensitive. I’m sorry for the loss of your dh.
People often don’t know how to handle others grief. They probably think they were being supportive but it wasn’t the right setting and their comments would of course upset. Yanbu.

Suzi888 · 30/12/2021 16:49

I’m so sorry for your loss. Flowers

She should have met you alone and left the children with her partner, I wouldn’t dream of doing this to anyone. Extremely insensitive.

Sleepytimebear · 30/12/2021 16:50

God that sounds awful. I had a bereavement 15 years ago and distanced myself from a lot of my friends who I felt were not there for me. I don't really accept the "people don't know what to say" excuse. If you're not sure there is lots of advice on Google! Do you have any other friends you can turn to who can give you the support you need? I would certainly give these people a miss whilst you process what has happened - it doesn't sound like they can give you what you need. I didn't feel I had the support I needed because of friends like this and have had to unravel 15 years of suppressed grief in therapy. You must do what is right for you right now and surround yourself with people who see and hear you

ParkheadParadise · 30/12/2021 16:51

That sounds horrendous.
You certainly find out who your true friends are when you need them.
I lost friends when my dd died.

But my best friend from school fly back from a holiday abroad when my dd died to be with me.

Pegasushaswings · 30/12/2021 16:52

They sound bloody awful, it’s not you, it’s them! Sorry for your loss.

JohnSmithDrive · 30/12/2021 16:52

That's awful.

I lost my DH in the summer and I have to say you really do find out who your friends are. There are two people I thought were "thick and thin" friends who I feel really let down by and have distanced myself from as a result.

Otoh though, some other people, who I thought I was much less close to have been absolutely amazing.

pinkgin85 · 30/12/2021 16:52

How awful, they sound like terrible people and you deserve better. Hope you're ok, very sorry for your loss Thanks

SuffolkDreams · 30/12/2021 16:53

I’m so sorry for your loss OP Flowers

How old are they? They sound really immature and selfish tbh…if her husband was around to help with the toddler then your friend should have taken time out to spend with you, on her own, somewhere quiet.

DownToTheSeaAgain · 30/12/2021 16:53

Is it possible they didn't understand the strength of your feeling for your partner or that you weren't married / together long? Doesn't justify behaviour but perhaps explains why they don't get your extended upset.

JanisMoplin · 30/12/2021 16:53

This is horrible to read. I am so sorry. And of course you are not AIBU. She sounds incredibly insensitive.

We all have our own lives but what are friends for?

JohnSmithDrive · 30/12/2021 16:54

@JohnSmithDrive

That's awful.

I lost my DH in the summer and I have to say you really do find out who your friends are. There are two people I thought were "thick and thin" friends who I feel really let down by and have distanced myself from as a result.

Otoh though, some other people, who I thought I was much less close to have been absolutely amazing.

I realise now that the "thick and thin" friends lost interest when it was me who needed support and that previously I had always been there for them, but hadn't really needed them myself
Youdoyoutoday · 30/12/2021 16:54

If the husband was there he could have kept the kids at home whilst your friend spent some time with you alone. I totally get why you're pissed off

Really sorry for your loss Flowers

JanisMoplin · 30/12/2021 16:56

The text saying "Oh no, what's the matter?" I just can't believe people can be so stupid and not apologise.

BonnesVacances · 30/12/2021 16:56

@endofthelinefinally

This is pretty normal IME. Over the next few months you will discover who your real friends are. The ones who care enough to keep trying, even if they don't quite get it right at first. You will find that some people you didn't think of as close friends will actually come through for you and will become good friends. You will make new friends, usually people that get it, who have been through the same experience and understand. And some people you thought were good friends will disappear. I am so very sorry for your loss. Flowers

I agree with this. It's awful as you end up also grieving friendships you thought you had, but you also get to forge new ones with the most unexpected people which more than makes up for it.

Condolences OP. Thanks I hope you have some other RL support to rely on.

HardbackWriter · 30/12/2021 16:57

I'm so sorry for your loss. Their behaviour is unfathomably awful - I don't agree with pp that it can be explained by them not knowing what to do; that can cause people to be really awkward or to just disappear (which is terrible) but how crass they've been seems beyond that. The one thing I wondered is if they've somehow massively underestimated the effect on you; whether they think this was a much more casual relationship than it was? Not that that's any kind of excuse as I'd expect someone to be very badly impacted by the death of anyone they were in a relationship with.

Toomanypeople · 30/12/2021 16:57

Sorry for your loss, she was not a goodd friend and I hope you have others who can give you the support you deserve

MoreAloneTime · 30/12/2021 16:57

Definitely one of those "were you raised by wolves?" moments. Very insensitive behaviour.