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AIBU - ‘Supportive’ friends upon partner dying.

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london2022 · 30/12/2021 16:40

My partner died suddenly 4 weeks ago (no underlying health issues - not COVID etc…) and I was obviously devastated. If I’m being frank; I have had a traumatic few weeks and couldn’t have told you what day of the week it was. I barely slept - and when I did - I would ‘crash’. I had no appetite… and just was in a terrible state. I called my friend the next morning - who was very sweet on the phone and said I should meet her/we could go for a walk or a coffee. Or both. She has a one year old baby (who I assumed she would bring with as I’m unsure if she is still breastfeeding). So I suggested our ‘usual’ quiet place (where we’ve been to with the baby - but we’ve obviously sat outside when with the baby). It is a neighbourhood restaurant - also with bar seating - and we often sit at the bar with some tea/coffee. Obviously I wasn’t looking to go out and drink/party. Clearly. I simply needed to get some air - and get off my phone as all I had been doing was making/fielding calls. Also; as mentioned; it’s our ‘usual spot’ - so we would both know what to ‘expect’ at such a place.

I’m en route - and she texted me with a change of destination. Asking to meet at a coffee place. I said ‘no problem’ as it was a 2 minute walk from where we were supposed to meet. I get there - and her husband and other unruly toddler is there. He gives me a hug and then says: ‘EEEEK!! You ok?’

The place is FULL of screaming kids - and even two who were jumping on the seats/booth next to us - whilst coughing everywhere. Where they were seated; was right next to the ‘coffee collection’ point - and so I was essentially back-to-back with people awaiting their order and baristas shouting out names. Another table had a child smash an iPad on the floor - and for some reason; I just wanted to cry at that alone.

I was on the verge of tears when I got there due to my personal situation - and if I’m being totally honest; didn’t feel like shouting (due to the noise) about my now-deceased partner in front of an extraordinarily busy coffee shop. She then shouted (over the table/her kids): ‘SO HE’S DEAD?! WHAT THE FUCK?!?!” I just stared at her and started crying.

She then asked me to get her a coffee - which I did (as I wanted a cup of tea anyway).

Whilst I don’t mean to sound self-indulgent; I found her behaviour just totally insensitive. Her husband then kept asking for all the ‘details’ (which is fine - but again; I didn’t feel like raising my voice to explain) and then later asked me to read his son a book…

I left about 20 minutes later.

AUBU to feel bitter - even now - a few weeks later - that this was ‘support’…? (Please feel free to say whatever you honestly think).

I’m aware everyone obviously has their own lives/families/careers - as do I - but honestly; I got home - cried more than I already had - and slept for 14 hours afterwards. They didn’t reach again out until 9 days ago - to ask if I was free for drinks.

I sent them a response text stating I wouldn’t be going to their Christmas party - and they said: ‘OH NO! What’s the matter?’

I know my state of mind is a messed up one due to sheer grief - but AIBU?! I felt totally unsupported - and I’m not even a precious person. Truly. If anything; I’m that typical British stoic!

OP posts:
Emerald5hamrock · 30/12/2021 19:21

Yanbu. I'm so sorry for your loss. Flowers
What the heck was your friend thinking? I know people can be sloppy with words in a sensitive situation but this was not one of those times.
I couldn't see her again.
I hope you're okay, well as good as can be expected.
Sending hugs.

violetbunny · 30/12/2021 19:22

I think they've gone about this totally the wrong way, but it's probably come from a good place on their part.

I wouldn't be in a hurry to get in touch with them until you feel ready, but when you do I would explain that you appreciate them reaching out but you were upset by the lack of privacy and sensitivity. If they are good friends then they will hopefully reflect on this and take it on board.

Aranan · 30/12/2021 19:22

[quote IDKAYBIF32]@WonderfulYou

Read the OP again. OP hasn't had any support from these friends as of yet. That must be very hurtful for her. I'm not saying to ditch them, but it's not just a one off "silly understanding", they've acted shit so far.[/quote]
OP also doesn’t say anything about the relationship with her partner. A committed partnership and the friends have acted appallingly. A couple of dates, how are they to react really? I’d probably say “he’s dead wtf” as well.

custardbear45 · 30/12/2021 19:23

I'm so sorry for your loss. I hope you have real life support. Do you have family/kids? Sorry if I missed that part.

YADNBU to be pissed off with your friend. Totally insensitive, crass behaviour. The last minute change of plan would have been enough to derail me when I was going through the grieving process with my dad. Everything seems like a massive effort and to change your plan, sit you in a bustling/noisy place and make such horrible comments....well I'm not surprised you were so upset.

When my dad died I had a friend who messaged the usual pleasantries and then immediately started talking about what was going on in her life. The usual man dramas etc. I was quite floored by it but on the other hand that's how she's always been. Completely self centred. Does your friend have form for being insensitive like this?

Slackbladder22 · 30/12/2021 19:25

Wow! My wife died 18 months ago and my friends were far more sensitive.

So sorry for your loss, do you have other friends or family who you can meet?

Friends husband sounds like an insensitive prick. EEK ffs!

Also try WAY if you need to chat to people who will understand what you’re going through.Flowers

peachesarenom · 30/12/2021 19:28

I'm so sorry for your loss x

This friend doesn't sound worth the effort in the future, I'm sorry she seems a shit friend.

oldflange · 30/12/2021 19:30

I’m so sorry for your loss, Op. I am shocked at how badly and insensitively your friend handled that situation. You are grieving and should put your needs first, be kind to yourself, surround yourself with people who are genuinely supportive. Flowers

Scrooge89 · 30/12/2021 19:30

I’m so sorry for your loss. My friend lost her husband suddenly in July. I would love love to see her and meet for a coffee. She’s just not ready yet. I’ve actually suggested she comes to my house I’m not far and it would get her out of her house.

I would feel honoured if you were my friend and wanted to meet me after such a close loss. YANBU and I’m so very sorry for your loss

Atlanticli · 30/12/2021 19:33

I couldn't finish reading your OP. I'm so sorry you had to deal with this. I really hope you have other people who are supporting you through this difficult time. Please tell someone you're struggling because you deserve so much better than what your friend and her husband gave you.

Eddielzzard · 30/12/2021 19:34

I'm so sorry. That really is awful. I find in the extremes of life - both loss and success - there are those that just don't support or wish you well. You really find out who your friends are. Hang on to the good ones.

I wouldn't respond to her text. If she's such an idiot, sending a reply won't make her sensitive, it'll open you up to another hurtful response.

Take care Flowers

IHateCoronavirus · 30/12/2021 19:36

Oh op, sending you much sympathy Flowers I hope you have some other real life support.
After losing DD I found counselling to be a big help, it just gave me a chance to feel heard without worrying about anyone else.

OMG12 · 30/12/2021 19:38

Sorry for your loss and quite frankly you’re likely to get better treatment from a random stranger than this couple who seemed to view your position as a bit of gossip. You’re not being over sensitive-the way they have behaved is appalling, they would no longer be my friends on account they obviously never were in the first place

EmmaWoodhousestreehouse · 30/12/2021 19:44

God I’m so sorry. They sound awful. It sounds like the husband came along for all the gory details. What a vile and insensitive pair. I hope you find your other friends more supportive 💐💐

DomPom47 · 30/12/2021 19:52

Very sorry for your loss 💐 she does not sound like a friend - let alone a decent one.

Applesonthelawn · 30/12/2021 19:55

I'm so sorry OP.
I think they may be fair-weather friends. There will be others who come forward and can offer real support, and they will become lifelong friends. I wouldn't bother with those who don't seem to be up to the task of supporting you in your grief.

cstaff · 30/12/2021 19:58

Op i am so sorry for your loss. I had something similar happen last year when my dad died. I have 3 friends that I thought that I could rely on to talk to or meet up with and 2 of them never let me down. No. 3 on the other hand - well we haven't spoken since, once I called her out on it. It still really gets me down when I think about it too much. Sad but true.

5keletor · 30/12/2021 19:58

It sounds like they're treating your partner's death like some sort of minor setback, asking about what happened, then being surprised (or at least acting surprised) when you decline an invitation... it's bloody obvious what's wrong and they're being beyond insensitive.
I hope you have others around who will support you, they definitely weren't behaving like true friends.

CarpetDiem · 30/12/2021 20:04

I’m so sorry for your loss. Grief is awful. They sound self absorbed. You will never forget how she made you feel that day so get blocking & go no contact.
Flowers

Tilltheend99 · 30/12/2021 20:09

Sounds like hell. Really sorry for what you are going through. FlowersTo some extent it is odd when life starts moving on after a bereavement but real friends will understand the situation at least until the first anniversary of their passing. After 4 weeks I would expect your ‘friend’ to not make it all about them.

sixswans · 30/12/2021 20:13

She could of left her husband and toddler at home for god's sake. Give her totally honest reply to her text!! Incredibly cruel behaviour on her part.

Toohardtofindaproperusername · 30/12/2021 20:14

if you are usually 'stoic' then possibly your friendship group are similar. it's fine until it isn't.
i'm so so sorry that it isn't fine as a result of something so traumatic and huge.
i'm not sure what to say other than sleep, eat, drink lots of water, cry, and work out who can help you do it and not crumble with you. i don't know if you have close family, or other people who may be more distant but who, if you think about them, may be less stoical and more able to give you waht you need right now. Sounds like you need a shoulder, a hug, a box of tissues, and maybe just some air to also breathe. a walk on a beach where you can scream and talk, or countryside. i am so so sorry, and hope there is someone who can help you do what you need right now.
this friend can't - and in time you'll go back to her for what she can offer maybe - distraction and avoidance also may be needed in future.

i hope you are feeling loved by other family and friends OP ... is your mom in your life, and is she any good for you at this time?

driftcompatible · 30/12/2021 20:21

I am so so sorry that your DH has so tragically died. You must be absolutely going through hell right now.

Festering on this will only add to your pain but she WAS an insensitive and selfish asshole. Her behaviour is staggering. What a stupid cow she is.

You're being so strong. Just having the strength to go out for a coffee is really something. Keep swimming.

rainyskylight · 30/12/2021 20:22

I’m so so sorry for your loss. It’s not quite the same, but my father died when a couple of years ago when I was 31 and I found a lot of my friends just had no bloody idea what I was going through. They just had no idea. A lot of people just got it wrong. As with other PP, I agree that your friends may have meant well but just got it completely wrong. They may have thought that you wanted to forget about it for a while, and be in a busy place. They may have thought you wanted normality and no deep conversations so came as a group rather than solo (to avoid the one-on-one convo). Whatever it is, don’t judge them this time. They can’t help you in this horrible time but other friends may be able to. That doesn’t mean you have to cut ties. People change and have new experiences over time.

I’m so very sorry for your loss xx

sweetbellyhigh · 30/12/2021 20:26

My god that's awful, I'm so sorry.

They sound utterly clueless and exactly the opposite of what you need right now.

Hb12 · 30/12/2021 20:29

Is there any chance that you haven't been together long and they just didn't think enough?

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