SIL gone to panto when waiting for PCR result - oh yes she did!

[anotherannoyngSIL]

Name changed as I’ve been slated on here before for not allowing my SIL to do as she pleases.

Today I thought we’d made a positive turn as she has taken my older son and hers to the pantomime as I’ve got a broken leg (though she has made a big thing about helping out).

Unfortunately she’s just text me to say “BTW I’ve had a positive lateral and waiting on my PCR but decided to take the boys anyway as xxx (her son) was looking forward to it, I’m sure that’s fine”.

In which universe is that fine?? She’s risking not just my son, but the others she’s gone with and the whole audience!! She is very jealous if people do social things without her but surely there comes a time when sense is more important than FOMO?? I’m assuming she waited till she was there to tell me so I couldn’t do anything.

Husband says I’m being unreasonable for being annoyed as the rules aren’t clear cut and she hasn’t had the PCR test back.

AIBU for wanting to ban her as she’s so irresponsible and only really cares about herself?

[quote anotherannoyngSIL]@lljkk I did wonder that but she told SIL and MIL so I would find out at some point. I think she timed it as she did as she loves the drama and to wind me up and to have "control" (she knows I will be upset all afternoon)[/quote]
Based on this, do you think she is telling the truth? What is the likelihood she'd lie to wind you up?

@NameChanged15729

Honestly it’s not something I would do. I did have Covid and did my due diligence of household purgatory... but I don’t agree with the rules either. At some point this has to end. I’m already scared there going to shut the schools again and I don’t agree with protecting the vulnerable/elderly at the expense of the young.

You know some of those vulnerable are kids with cancer going through treatment? But they don’t count?

She is being a totally selfish and your husband is an idiot for not seeing that

Another day, another covid-spreading SIL.

@WhatAHexIGotInto

Mind you, I've always felt that the onus should be on those not wanting to catch it to stay home, rather than others having to curtail their freedom in case someone catches it.

Not quite as simple as 'not wanting to catch it'. @DappledOliveGroves. I recently finished treatment for cancer. I still had to go to chemo and my other treatments. Should I just have stayed at home so as not to inconvenience you or curtail your freedom? I kind of just wanted to, you know, not die from cancer.

@WhatAHexIGotInto Congratulations on finishing your treatment

I particularly feel for the poor theatre staff and performers. Theatres are hanging on by the thinnest thread at the moment and having to cancel and refund so many performances due to isolation among cast/crew/FOH.

Of course people can pick it up anywhere - but if people are merrily going to the theatre knowingly infected at likely at their most infectious point they don’t stand much chance. So disrespectful and thoughtless about their ability to pay rent and put foot on the table, even if she’s not bothered about their health.

Plus as a PP has pointed out, a theatre full of primary school children is party time for omicron. Significant risk anyway but with people knowing infected there, it jumps quite a bit.

We went to a pantomime the other day.

It was 3/4 full and only (approximately) half the adults were in masks.

I’m not particularly anxious of covid but I was quite surprised how few were in masks.

I presume your sil won’t wear one if she’s this blasé with the rules...

If your DS hasn’t already had covid recently then it’s quite likely he’ll catch from your SIL. Is your DH going to stay at home with him when he needs to isolate?

At least all adults have to quarantine masks in the theatre, better than nothing I suppose so if she does have Covid hopefully she's not spread it around.

Selfish ignorant woman.

This pandemic certainly has illuminated some awfully selfish and self centred human behaviour in some.

But to take your DS with her as well, then contact you after she has left really is the low point. As you say, it sounds as though she enjoys the drama.

Frankly I would give her a very wide berth going forward as I simply would not want to associate with somebody so irresponsible and selfish.

@Marianne1234

Fuck right off with the selfish chat. It has been two years. We have sacrificed plenty. It’s not selfish to want to carry on with your life. It’s entirely normal and understandable. Stop trying to demonise people for this.

I think that deliberately risking infecting other people with a virus that can cause significant long term repercussions should be as socially unacceptable as things like drink driving.

As a society we need to assume that people are following rules that are designed to keep us all safe. That's how we assess risk. So when we take to the roads in our cars, we assume the other drivers have passed their tests, aren't above the alcohol limit and are looking at the road not their mobile. To mitigate for unforeseen lapses in others, we wear seatbelts and take extra care ourselves.

Maybe Marianne, your equivalent of wearing seatbelts is staying at home forever? Because if we can't rely on people to act like decent human beings with a thought for others' health, that's the only thing the CEV can do.

You could follow rules that keep people safe or you could say fuck it, moan about sacrifice, and thwart people's risk assessment. So that's why it's selfish it is to risk other people's lives or livelihoods just because you feel your own needs are greater.

Well said *Bonnes"

I often wonder whether people would be this selfish or accommodating of others' selfishness if Covid caused the chronic, uncontrollable shits. How would they feel knowing they've been deliberately exposed to something like norovirus where it's coming out of both ends for a week, and over Christmas?

I'm an asthmatic, and despite not being classed as CEV I've been hospitalised with respiratory illnesses before that some of you would have written off as just a cough/cold/bad chest. It's horrible, lonely and I was so dizzy that I had to use a bedpan instead of the toilet. I'm triple-jabbed for work and shopping but trips to the cinema, theatre etc are out because I don't trust others like the OPs DSis to follow the rules.

Pity you did not find out early enough to tell the theatre so they had the option to exclude her if they knew which seats she had booked.

What a selfish selfish cunt. You unfortunately can’t argue or reason with stupid, she won’t understand or care.

@Starcaller

What a knob. Why even bother doing a LFT/PCR if you don't give a shit anyway?

And why brag about ignoring a positive result?

This is why we're where we are, people being inconsiderate and just doing as they please. I'd be livid too...ohhhh the RAGE. And what is your DH talking about; its clear if you have a positive LFT then you need to isolate.

Its a MILD illness for the vast majority. If omicron is as infectious as suggested then its rife everywhere and people will be asymptomatic. Lockdowb lovers stay home and the rest of us can get back to living. Cant stand Boris but he made the right choice not to impose new year restrictions.
Folk cant get tests because they are testing with no symptoms. Just stop it. Wear a mask, wash your hands and carry on. Its NOT the plague.

YABNU @anotherannoyngSIL

Given She is very jealous if people do social things without her I wouldn't invite her to anything social ever again as she clearly can't be trusted. I would be so furious, and very tempted to send lots of photos of you having fun when you can/do socialise without her just to wind her up. She knows she shouldn't be out anywhere with a +ve LFT

Things like this make me really angry. YANBU. She's a total idiot.

I went to the Circus in the summer and the woman in front of me was looking at her phone continuously which was annoying in itself then opened up a text that looked very much like a result text. Obviously I can't be sure as couldn't read her phone but I've seen enough negative and more recently positive texts to know what they look like. She looked a bit shocked and at the end rushed off quick.

I was anxious for the next 10 or so days thinking about it. I didn't know if result wasn't positive or negative so couldn't really do much but me cautious. Thankfully I was fine. I think because she was sat in front of me, it helped. I think if she was coughing behind me it would have been worse.

Your sil is a selfish ass.

@WhatAHexIGotInto

Mind you, I've always felt that the onus should be on those not wanting to catch it to stay home, rather than others having to curtail their freedom in case someone catches it.

Not quite as simple as 'not wanting to catch it'. @DappledOliveGroves. I recently finished treatment for cancer. I still had to go to chemo and my other treatments. Should I just have stayed at home so as not to inconvenience you or curtail your freedom? I kind of just wanted to, you know, not die from cancer.

We don't all feel like that. Many of us understand we are part of a society and are happy to make some (small!) sacrifices to enable others to live. The exception i feel is education as children need to be in school. But I'm happy to socialise less so others can have less risk.

@MrsBerthaRochester

Its a MILD illness for the vast majority. If omicron is as infectious as suggested then its rife everywhere and people will be asymptomatic. Lockdowb lovers stay home and the rest of us can get back to living. Cant stand Boris but he made the right choice not to impose new year restrictions. Folk cant get tests because they are testing with no symptoms. Just stop it. Wear a mask, wash your hands and carry on. Its NOT the plague.

Lovely! You realise your post just said fuck the minority and you think that's absolutely acceptable?

You're not the minority are you Bertha? One day you might be so be careful what you wish for!

There is a vast difference between "getting on with life" and actively going out when you know you have tested positive!

You haven't lost anyone to CoVID have you @MrsBerthaRochester? I hope you haven't too.

Why must you think that people who don't go round deliberately infecting people are 'lockdown lovers' rather than just people carrying on as much as they can without putting other people at risk? Have you not been living so far for the majority of the last year? No holidays, cinema, theatre etc? Because most of us have. It still doesn't mean than I wouldn't be sensible had I received a positive test.

Selfish arsehole! Also thick