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If lesbians don't want to date men then they just say no thanks, they same as we all say to people we don't want to go out with. Why do lesbians have to give a reason?
Why are lesbians in a position where their declared sexual orientation isn't respected and they are actively being propositioned by males?
It would be fine if they were allowed to publicly state 'no males' but they aren't allowed to do that.
If would be fine if they had dedicated spaces which were exclusively female only but they aren't allowed to do that.
If would be fine if they were allowed to retain the language to describe themselves on their own terms and the word lesbian wasn't being culturally appropriated but thats also not allowed.
So lesbians are left in this awful position of not being able to explicit about their own sexuality because the hurt feelings of males are more important than how they might feel being pushed into this position where the only place free from constant unwanted sexual harassment from males is once again clandestine and in the closet secrecy to ensure males don't get upset.
How is that progressive? How is that anything but homophobic?
Homosexuals are protected in law. In theory. The key point being that the definition is same sex attracted. Not same gender attracted.
Where it all went wrong was when Stonewall introduced a definition of homophobia which is institutionally homophobic because it switched from sex to gender and went ahead of the law. This means lesbians in particular are disadvantaged and no longer have the support of the organisation because they cannot simply declare they are same sex attracted without being subjected to emotional abuse and vexatious attacks for being 'transphobic' if they do. They abandoned the rights, feelings and protections of lesbians that they'd spent years fighting for in an instant.
Once upon a time we were told if you were a lesbian you couldn't help that you were only attracted to females. Now saying that is not acceptable. They now have to justify their existence and run the gauntlet of 'but if you just tried it' or stuff about education. Or just hide away.
Thats going back in time to the dark ages.
If lesbians can't just say openly without being questioned / vilified / made to feel guilty for 'being impolite' etc etc for just being who they are wtf is going on?
The dogma is that trans people should be able to just 'be' without question so why aren't lesbians afforded the same courtesy?
Why is the burden of responsibility put on lesbians to 'be nice' and not on trans people to 'be nice' and leave lesbians and lesbian spaces alone? Why isn't a mutual understanding of 'this is a lesbian only group for females only' trampled all over? Why can't there be groups for homogenderists as well as homosexuals and it be a clear social faux pa to intrude?
Why is it that lesbians have to hide their true sexuality to avoid causing offence?
Please enlighten me cos this matters in terms of equality and fairness.
Being open and honest about this, doesn't actively discriminate against trans people - it protects them if you are explicit from the outside because they know that they won't emotionally invest and then be 'cruelly rejected' or 'humiliated' as the whole narrative is set up to emphasis. If you cannot openly say I don't like penises because I'm a lesbian then its the lesbians being discriminated against! There is no 'lets all be nice about this' because you can't change your sexuality. Why should be ignore that once again in the pursuit of the argument that you can't help your gender. Gender and sex remain different things whether or not all trans people want to believe this or not! Because biological reality does not cease to exist to appease hurt feelings.
There has to be a point where boundaries are clearly laid out in order for the interests of both minority groups to be properly balanced, understood and respected. It would be far better to do this early and upfront under the existing provisions of the law which allow for proportionate exclusion in certain circumstances. Being a lesbian being a quite clear example.
Its very much as case of 'stay in your own lane' to avoid a nasty collision and to keep everyone safe from harm.
But no. We get ridiculous arguments about lesbians need to be sensitive and polite because women have to be the emotional crutches to support the fragile mentality of males rather than have freedom from oppression from males and be able to express themselves openly without being criticised for doing so.