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To hate working with women

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HousethatChunkbuilt · 14/12/2021 18:27

I am a feminist and I think women are incredible. I am proud at all we achieve, having babies, periods, going through the menopause, the constant harassment, fear of violence, discrimination, sexism... the list goes on.
HOWEVER I find it incredibly difficult to work in all female teams. I have nearly always worked in all female environments in entry level jobs.
The bitchiness is unreal. Everyday comments lead to tears, meltdowns, refusal to come in. This has happened in every single workplace. The only place I haven't had this is in a shop where it was mostly men and other (quite mature) women. Oh and one place where we were all different nationalities, is cattiness a British thing?
It just takes so much time and effort navigating the various rifts, arguments, feuds and rivalries. I honestly think we'd rule the world if we could get rid of this shit.
I'm quite matter of fact and get frustrated that this taking up so much time!

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Mirw · 16/12/2021 13:14

I get you. I have always worked in the Third Sector in equality organisations. When working in all women teams it has been a nightmare. Younger women declaring that I do not understand feminism, even though I have been a feminist for over 45 years. In fact, it has always been younger women trying to force their views on me then taking a strop when I don't agree with them... For example, in one team we all had to say that all men are bad as all men have the potential to be rapists. This was to be our mantra. I refused to take part as I live with a man, my dad is a man, as are my brothers. None would rape a woman. Result, nobody was willing to talk to me direct for 6 weeks. Project discussions all took place by email. When I took out my grievance on a completely different matter, I had a paper trail from the offenders, which wasn't fair either because I should have deleted all the emails after I had read them, against organisation policy...keep all emails 6 months, archive snd delete.
So it does happen and I am now very wary of joining all women teams.

SammyScrounge · 16/12/2021 23:14

We were nearly all women in our department and worked well together. The most childish thing I ever saw was when a man teacher lifted a colleague's newspaper to read. Everyone knew the colleague hated his newspaper being wrinkled and messy. It had to be pristine before he would touch it. He saw his paper
all spread out on the table and he exploded with rage (real rage), pushed past the paper thief, seized his carton of goat's milk, and poured it down the sink. Then he stormed out of the base and slammed the door behind him.pUpils had to choose between j
The months rolled by and it was time to assign new classes for next session. PUpils had to choose between taking history or geography.Goatsmilk man was principal History and was shocked to see that hardly any pupils had opted for History. It turned out that the Head of Geography(still irked by his creased newspaper six months later) had been telling all classes that if they opted for his subject they could be pilots when they left school and make a fortune.
You cannot beat men for silly feuding.

Notenoughchocolateomg · 16/12/2021 23:36

Feminist here too buy from my own personal experience of working in retail the bitchiness was awful. I left in the end.

beastlyslumber · 17/12/2021 09:58

I've worked in more than 200 different teams (temping for many years) and the worst behaviour I've ever seen was from men. A male boss threw a jug of milk at my head once. Sexual harrassment. Stealing ideas. Undermining, deceiving, committing acts of fraud. Just general nastiness - all men.

I've encountered a few unpleasant women along the way also, but only one or two that were bad enough for me to even recall. Plenty of men were awful to the point of violence. I'd rather work with and for women any day.

Milomonster · 17/12/2021 10:13

I work in a female-dominated team in academia. Only one woman irritates the shit out of me by her constant need for drama and attention. She sucks the life out of me and I will actively avoid going to the office when she’s in. The others are wonderful, strong and smart women who behave with decorum. My overall experience of working with women has been a very positive and supportive one.

hivemindneeded · 17/12/2021 14:40

@Milomonster

I work in a female-dominated team in academia. Only one woman irritates the shit out of me by her constant need for drama and attention. She sucks the life out of me and I will actively avoid going to the office when she’s in. The others are wonderful, strong and smart women who behave with decorum. My overall experience of working with women has been a very positive and supportive one.
Same here. Most of the time I work alone from home but have a few projects that involve working in an academic team of women. They are such good people and I love my boss on these projects. She's so straightforward and easy to deal with.
ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 17/12/2021 19:32

Interesting about academia. I worked in schools as a teacher for 25 years. Bloody loved all my female colleagues. Kind and really supportive. All of them.

We used to have a ‘crying’ room. (Teens make you cry a lot) and if someone went in. One of the lovely team followed to sympathise and help. Often we all liked in for a group hug.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 17/12/2021 19:33

Not liked! Piled!

adrianmolesmole · 17/12/2021 20:27

I've not found this in all women teams but when I was a manager I found women much harder to deal with. When managing men I found that if I gave them a job to do they'd do it no question. With women it was often sighs and huffs and "atmosphere", gossip with others (talking about their boss (me) and leaving me out. Perhaps because I am a woman that it got to me so much. I probably noticed it more in a way a male boss might not. And I found the huffs and puffs hard to ignore, I found I was picking up on the slightest (pointed) sigh and it was really, really irritating!

With men sometimes you'd get banter, but everything just felt much more on the surface and straightforward to deal with.

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