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AIBU or is DH “joking” incredibly wearing?

190 replies

VentingNotErupting · 12/12/2021 11:47

Long story short: married 7 years, together 10. Patience wearing thin.
Conversations where I am asking for help are very tiring as they end up much like the one this morning:
Me: please could you make two cake bases using this cardboard and wrap them in foil?
Him: huffing…well, yes, but why?
Me: because I want to get on with the icing and a bit of help will mean it’s done quicker
Him: huffing…bangs cardboard about…where are the scissors…. Don’t you think it would be better…blah blah…
Me: I don’t mind how they’re made, I just would find it helpful if you could do it while I make the icing
Fast forward 20 minutes…
Him: can I go to the loo?
Me: you don’t need to ask!
Him: well you’re being bossy today
Me: I just asked for a bit of help
Him: grumbles…goes off….
Fast forward ten minutes
Him: can you put lemon in the icing?
Me: I could, though cos it’s a fruit cake I’d rather not. Do you really want it in?
Him: no, not if it’s going to be an issue
Me: I’ll put some in next time
Him: hmmmm…next time…
Me: that ok?
Him: it will have to be won’t it. You never take advice.
Me: (thinking about the million times I’ve made Xmas cakes and finally found a recipe that works) I’ll try it next time
Him: you never listen.
Me: chuckling…you’re gonna have a cake stuck somewhere if I can’t get on with this…
Him: you can’t take a joke…huffs….Xmas cakes are boring

This is just an example. Insults are disguised as jokes every sodding day. Small comments constantly. If I weary of it I’m accused of not talking a joke but every…sodding…day….gah!!!!!

OP posts:
SylvanianFrenemies · 12/12/2021 14:49

He sounds a bit whingy and annoying.
Expecting him to do the bases seems unreasonable - assuming it is you who wants the cake?

Holothane · 12/12/2021 14:52

Been there done that, mine loves calling me slut, come bucket, slag, because of my film star crushes I switch off and think year right. Get on with you.

DaisyNGO · 12/12/2021 14:52

Sorry if I missed it
He does nothing

How is the whole family funded? It sounds like you have way more to worry about than a cake.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 12/12/2021 15:00

@Holothane

Been there done that, mine loves calling me slut, come bucket, slag, because of my film star crushes I switch off and think year right. Get on with you.
What on earth? Are you still with this arsehole? Why?
33goingon64 · 12/12/2021 15:07

Sounds a bit like my DH so I don't have advice really but I sympathise. I rarely ask him to do anything because the rare times I do I get this type of response. Really interested in your mention of practising positive requests. When I've tried, I do it really delicately and carefully so I'm not nagging, but I get short shrift and told I'm nagging.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 12/12/2021 15:14

@33goingon64

Sounds a bit like my DH so I don't have advice really but I sympathise. I rarely ask him to do anything because the rare times I do I get this type of response. Really interested in your mention of practising positive requests. When I've tried, I do it really delicately and carefully so I'm not nagging, but I get short shrift and told I'm nagging.
How can you bear to be with someone who you have to tiptoe around to try to persuade them to do their share of adulting?! You don't have to spend your life with someone like that, it's not meant to be this way.
Holothane · 12/12/2021 15:17

Don’t worry I’m leaving next year he does know yet. It being arranged new fella adores me that’s all I can say at the moment.

Holothane · 12/12/2021 15:18

Sorry meant doesn’t know yet the new quick blames divorce laws will help he’s in for a shock this year has broken me.

whynotwhatknot · 12/12/2021 15:19

he sounds pointless-so you run round all day working and doing chores and he just sits in his chair doing nothing

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 12/12/2021 15:19

I’d just buy a cake…

Cavagirl · 12/12/2021 15:19

OP this really doesn't sound very good at all. What you are describing suggests not a normal, balanced dynamic in your relationship. Perhaps you need to hear this:

In an equal, healthy relationship, both partners take joint responsibility for the running of their combined lives, including such things as life admin, and remembering the things that need to be done in order to maintain a home, a family and a social life.

In an equal, healthy relationship, difficult discussions can be had without anger, and compromise can usually be found.

So your combined posts sound concerning and I suspect are the tip of the iceberg:

He doesn’t work, he’s in his fifties, he likes to sit down all day. That’s the situation. I work school hours and evenings. The weekends are days off for me to do the jobs that need doing.
Why doesn't he work? What contribution to the running of the household and family does he make while you are working? What are the jobs you are doing at weekends, and what are the jobs that he is doing at the weekends?

he doesn’t see the point of housework, doesn’t like the “mundane repetitiveness” of school runs and hates organising bills. I last brought up dividing housework jobs about a year ago and he was quite angry quite quickly that I was wasting time talking about it. I really hate the mundane repetitiveness of some of life's chores, but I don't get to simply opt out. Neither do you. So why does he? What did he do before your relationship, live in a hotel?

Sticking up for myself is a new thing for me and I don’t let things escalate into arguments. If he says no, I’ll accept it and not grumble From your comment above about him getting angry if you raise something you don't like, and this, it sounds like you avoid conflict and agree to things you don't like so he doesn't get angry at you. Does that sound right? Why does he get the final veto on things, instead of you?

We’ve both been working on “making a positive request” so it’s not a nag, a demand or anything else negative. Supposed to say what you’d like help with and what difference it would make and how it would make you feel… Whose idea was this? What sort of things does he ask for your help with? It may be a stretch but given everything else it sounds like this comes from a fundamental issue with division of responsibilities in the first place - he sits on his backside all day, you do everything, and now you're learning how to ask him more nicely to help you with doing his share???

Sorry OP. Some of the above may be fair or unfair, but it doesn't sound great from what you've written. Agree with PP to start a thread in relationships for more nuanced advice.

Ps hard agree lemon icing on Christmas cake is a no Wink

whynotwhatknot · 12/12/2021 15:21

and if he wants a certain cake why doesnt he do it himself or ask in advance about it

MrsLighthouse · 12/12/2021 15:23

I can’t stand sharing chores and if my husband decides to cook a big meal or bake something then l want him to do it all…not be ordering me around the kitchen. I’d be just as grumpy as him.

TheSpottedZebra · 12/12/2021 15:25

@Holothane

Don’t worry I’m leaving next year he does know yet. It being arranged new fella adores me that’s all I can say at the moment.
Op is this you? If you're leaving him, why are you bothering to try to 'work on things'. You're clearly well past the point of no return.
Mydogmylife · 12/12/2021 15:25

@Moonface88

He doesn't work, but also doesn't help with housework, school runs or lifemin? What does he actually do?!
Agreed 100% - not helping with what is more of a hobby project ( the baking) is one thing, but opting out of general house hold tasks and maintenance is quite another!
OneTC · 12/12/2021 15:26

He sounds like a fucking arsehole

Suzanne999 · 12/12/2021 15:31

To so,ve the lemon in icing argument you say yes and pretend to put the lemon in, or just a tiny amount. If he can’t taste it ( & if he remembers) when he eventually eats it , must have been a problem lemon…….

Viviennemary · 12/12/2021 15:31

Why didn't you just do it yourself. Or if you dont want to be bothered buy a cake.

DeclineandFall · 12/12/2021 15:33

I think you've made a mistake using the cake as an example. You decided to make a cake and shouldn't have asked him to help. However, the rest of it I sympathise with. MY DH is like this- if you ask you are nagging. He is as pissy and difficult as possible just to make you stop asking and keep the peace so you end up doing everything. Hes found a way to get what he wants. When I saw your DH was in his fifties my heart sank. Hes not going to change. So you will end up sniping and falling out forever, or you will do like us and end up living separate lives in the same house waiting until we bother getting a divorce. TBF to my DH he doesn't bother sniping anymore because he knows I will leave quicker.

LittleDandelionClock · 12/12/2021 15:34

@icedcoffees

Can I ask a question - what's the point in him? What does he bring to your life?

He doesn't work.
He doesn't do housework.
He won't pay bills.
He won't do the school run.

Why are you with him? Honestly?

This. ^

Have to say @VentingNotErupting your bar is set very low, if everything you say about him is true.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 12/12/2021 15:35

@DeclineandFall

Don't you want to leave sooner?! I don't know how you can bear to stay with someone like that.

Inertia · 12/12/2021 15:36

The cake is the wrong thing to focus on- it’s an add on activity. I would see baking as something you either enjoy doing as an activity by yourself or with children/ partners if they’re keen to join in, or you buy a cake.

However, he absolutely should be pulling his weight with everything else. If you work and he doesn’t, he should be doing the majority of housework/ school runs/ life admin, unless he has a disability which makes this impossible.

Make a fuss about the essentials - between you , contributions towards income/ household jobs/ childcare and family commitments should balance out.

DaisyNGO · 12/12/2021 15:37

This is all very "cancel the cheque" but that's not the right term.

1forAll74 · 12/12/2021 15:38

You seem to get on edge with these small matters, most men don't like to be piddling about,,with things you could do yourself, unless they are puppy dog Husbands, who are at your beck and call at all times.

HollowTalk · 12/12/2021 15:48

I wouldn't put up with this. Why isn't he working? Why are you doing everything? Why is he so objectionable when you ask him to help a little bit?