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To be really sad and upset at DH?

177 replies

Suspiciousmind20 · 09/12/2021 22:40

I work longer hours than DH who does a few hours here and there. I’m the main breadwinner. We moved recently and I was concerned re the longer commute and how I could continue to keep family life ticking along (I held the ‘mental load’ back then and was worried I wouldn’t have the energy to do it all still). DH reassured me that he’d take on more responsibility for life stuff as the change meant a drop in hours for him.

We have struggled. I still had the mental load. He didn’t really do the housework. So we now have a system. Bit better with house keeping now.

But recently, on his childcare day, when I’m working, he’s forgotten things like Xmas jumper day, Xmas school lunch for DS and said he’d order the Xmas cards DS designed at school but didn’t.

I just feel gutted for DS because he’s missed out. I don’t want to take over - it feels unfair that I still have the mental load for his days when I am at work and he may be does a couple of hours). But I can’t let this continue to happen to DS.

I feel trapped. If I take over I feel resentful. If I leave him to it this stuff happens a lot. He’s intelligent and has a good memory but he just doesn’t put thought into it and kind of drifts along. He’s great in lots of ways but this feels crap. I feel like crying for DS who is trying to fit into a new class.

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ChateauxNeufDePoop · 10/12/2021 12:03

@Suspiciousmind20

Thanks so much for the replies.

I’ve ordered the book ‘Fair Play’ so can listen to that on my commute.

I’ll try and answer the questions.

He probably totals a full working day each week but it’s scattered. Sometimes two days worth. He is appointment based so it depends when people book in. Fewer people where we live now so he’s less busy. I work part time too but more hours. 3 days plus commute once a week (3 hours driving). I find my job exhausting so can’t cope with more. It’s enough financially to cover everything including treats. It’s a more stable income than his so I need to keep it.

He’s not lazy. Just not efficient or organised. He doesn’t engage fully in the tasks. We have had long discussions and are currently trialling TOMM method of cleaning and that is helping. He’s getting better. He understands about the mental load but then sometimes retracts that. TOMM helps a lot. I know if I see an unclean area of the house that it will get done on a certain day so I don’t have to hold it in mind. It’s eased a lot of the mental load of keeping the house in a reasonable state.

He probably does more cooking on the whole but other house keeping is now a bit more equal. We do half each childcare each week. Weekends are whatever is happening. So it’s a fairly even split. I feel like we are very close to how it needs to be.

It’s the remembering things and planning things he doesn’t do. If I remind him about Xmas jumper he’ll do Xmas jumper. He sometimes remembers but as soon as I’m not on it, things get missed.

A meeting once a week to plan is a great idea. I’ll try and subtlety do that - he won’t want a formal thing. I like the idea of a blackboard too. We did have a board with post it notes on it with different tasks but that didn’t work so well. I think a weekly ‘to do’ based on a discussion will be better.

To the ‘don’t micromanage’ poster. In what way am I micromanaging? I didn’t do anything. Just heard that he’d missed these things, (had left it to him to check the info from the school). I felt sad - but we were in company so I held back -and then posted here to vent and validate (or be challenged) before deciding what to do.

I’ve contacted the school but they can’t/won’t reorder. They say the company won’t accept orders directly. DH has said DS wasn’t bothered but he’s good at hiding his feelings so I can’t be sure as I wasn’t there. DH said that he apologised.

I probably feel more sad about it on behalf of my DS than DS does himself to be fair. I feel really sad that he put effort in for nothing and that the other kids got theirs and he didn’t. I can’t seem to shake it off. I want to cry.

I’ll try not to just take it on though. I know my days and I’ll keep on top of those and try and suggest a system for weekly planning.

I’m trying not to take it out on DH. I think if he looked sad about it I’d feel better.

Sorry but after that more detailed update about who does what and who works more I'm trying so hard not to call you a mug.
crummyusername · 10/12/2021 12:04

Re Christmas cards. My DS’s card got lost but I was able to order direct via the company that makes them. Ask the person at school who organised it for your child’s individual code (sorry can’t quite remember technical term) & try the website, or maybe call the company who does the printing, you might be able to get something still xx

Suspiciousmind20 · 10/12/2021 12:55

irene9

I just meant if he seemed sad about it then I’d feel that he’d taken it seriously and it wouldn’t happen again. Not that I want him to be sad for me. I’d feel really guilty if I’d dropped these particular balls. I feel a bit guilty that I left DH to it knowing he forgets stuff. But it’s his responsibility. I just want him to show me that it matters to me.

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Suspiciousmind20 · 10/12/2021 12:55

Matters to him I’m meant.

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HandlebarLadyTash · 10/12/2021 13:00

Husband learns & writes a list
Dont pick up after him

YeOldeNameChange · 10/12/2021 19:18

My Fil is high up in his field at work
He “just can’t” operate the washing machine according to MIL. And he “wouldn’t be able” to walk DD to her activity. He “wouldn’t know what to do”.
Women also enable this bullshit and their daughters marry similar useless men because they think it’s normal.

Suspiciousmind20 · 10/12/2021 19:34

crummyusername

Thanks. I took your advice but sadly they say the deadline has passed. I tried though. Sad

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WhereYouLeftIt · 10/12/2021 19:55

@Suspiciousmind20

irene9

I just meant if he seemed sad about it then I’d feel that he’d taken it seriously and it wouldn’t happen again. Not that I want him to be sad for me. I’d feel really guilty if I’d dropped these particular balls. I feel a bit guilty that I left DH to it knowing he forgets stuff. But it’s his responsibility. I just want him to show me that it matters to me.

"I’m trying not to take it out on DH. I think if he looked sad about it I’d feel better."

I can't shake the feeling that you're being all calm and reasonable when he does this sort of thing (drops the balls) instead of asking him what the fuck he was thinking to let his son down like this and what the fuck steps he was going to take to make bloody sure he didn't let his son down like this EVER AGAIN?

Or to put it another way - 'If you do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always got'. If you have always been calm and resigned about his forgetfulness (I'd call it non-prioritisation myself) and this has always resulted in more 'forgetfulness' - maybe you need to change what you do (and let rip).

Chasingaftermidnight · 10/12/2021 20:02

I think a lot of women face this problem. For many of us passing over the mental load means it doesn't get done and this affects DC. When if affects us we can manage this by just never expecting our husbands/partners to step up (and then doing the same to them). I'm afraid I think many men are just so self centred and selfish.

I think this is true. It’s one of the reasons that advice that’s often trotted out on here (‘just don’t do it, you’re such a martyr’) drives me mad because it’s so simplistic. For a lot of women it’s not a choice between doing something or not doing something. It’s a choice between doing something or their children suffering. Many men would rather see their children disappointed or left out than actually pull their weight.

Concestor · 10/12/2021 21:19

@Suspiciousmind20

crummyusername

Thanks. I took your advice but sadly they say the deadline has passed. I tried though. Sad

Can you get hold of the original artwork? The company our school choose this year messed up and didn't do our cards but I got there artwork from school and we are saving it in at home to print on card to make our own. Not quite the same but it's better than nothing.
Concestor · 10/12/2021 21:20

The artwork
Scanning it

Clymene · 10/12/2021 22:14

I don't understand why you wouldn't 'take it out on DH'. He's epically fucked up because he couldn't be bothered to prioritise things that aren't important to him.

This reminds me of the thread the other week when a woman's husband was furious she'd signed him up to an activity at their child's school and he asked he what was in it for him.

Not to take joy in making the people you love happy seems like a profound personality flaw to me.

timeisnotaline · 10/12/2021 22:21

@Chasingaftermidnight

I think a lot of women face this problem. For many of us passing over the mental load means it doesn't get done and this affects DC. When if affects us we can manage this by just never expecting our husbands/partners to step up (and then doing the same to them). I'm afraid I think many men are just so self centred and selfish.

I think this is true. It’s one of the reasons that advice that’s often trotted out on here (‘just don’t do it, you’re such a martyr’) drives me mad because it’s so simplistic. For a lot of women it’s not a choice between doing something or not doing something. It’s a choice between doing something or their children suffering. Many men would rather see their children disappointed or left out than actually pull their weight.

Yes this. I left my dh to it for his share after dc1 and he didn’t take any spare clothes into nursery, I guess he thought the bag magically packed itself. I was furious and said that was shitty parenting and if he was just going to be a bad parent who forgot things needed for their children then it wasn’t the parenting relationship I signed up for and this wasn’t going to go well at all. I wasn’t quietly sad about it!
Suzanne999 · 10/12/2021 22:26

Give him a wall planner for Christmas.
If you take on all the school stuff what else will your DH become hopeless at so you take on that too? It’s a well known strategy.

We all have to learn to do stuff for and on behalf of children —- school, Cubs, gymnastic club, rugby. And on and on. He’ll just have to knuckle down and learn.

likeafishneedsabike · 10/12/2021 22:35

DH has pulled shit like this with the DC and I have lost it. It has been made clear that this is just plain old bad parenting. I also let him know that the DC feel he is ‘forgetful’ and ‘doesn’t know stuff’. If I’m honest, I have shamed him properly - because what kind of parent drops these all important balls while the other parent is out of the house working?

Suspiciousmind20 · 10/12/2021 23:25

Well here’s an update. Massive argument this arvo. I sad it all. I don’t think shouting at and ‘taking it out’ on someone whose intentions are good but they’ve messed up is the right thing to do but I lost it. He has spoken with DS by the sounds of it and apologised. We have agreed a new system for the new year.

I’ve asked the card company for the original art. Waiting to hear back.

I spoke to DS about it and said we’d put a system in and he can help by checking it too.

I really let rip this arvo. Over a few things. He did too. Not pretty but cleared the air. Marriage and parenting can feel so hard sometimes.

Thanks for all the responses. So glad to be able to vent and hear different views. Thanks to everyone that was supportive and gave advice and for sharing your own experiences.

To the poster that asked ‘why do you keep him?’ He’s not a pet you know! Grin

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Hankunamatata · 10/12/2021 23:36

I use the alexa a lot on household echo dots for reminders. It set things like - remember it xmas jumper day the day - the day before and the morning of the day so everyone on house hears it. Dead easy to set reminders

Hankunamatata · 10/12/2021 23:37

Also have echo dot set to remind teen when hw are due, which days sports day etc

GiantHaystacks2021 · 11/12/2021 11:58

What did he let rip about, then?
Not getting his thrice weekly bj/shag?

Strictlyfanoftenyears · 11/12/2021 12:24

"I’ve asked the card company for the original art. Waiting to hear back." And yet he made the error but you havent left it to him to sort................................................

Suspiciousmind20 · 11/12/2021 13:41

GiantHaystacks2021
Strictlyfanoftenyears

Unnecessary to be quite so angry. Have you never made an error? Perfect are you?

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Charley50 · 11/12/2021 15:53

I put reminders with alerts on my phone for everything important. It's not rocket science.

I've never had experience personally of a man who did all this stuff, but the ones that do are worth their weight in gold (or Lego). Data shows us that women do the majority of every fucking thing useful to do with home and children.

billy1966 · 11/12/2021 16:19

OP,

Don't have more children with this selfish waster.

I couldn't be married to someone who didn't care about his child.

This is basic stuff.

He works one day a week?

He needs to work more.

He would remember if it was important to him, but it isn't.

I wouldn't be accepting my child being collateral damage to his laziness and me financially carrying him.

He's a lazy waster.

Mind yourself.Flowers

whynotwhatknot · 11/12/2021 20:33

He works total of one day a week and cant be bothered to remember xmas jumper day and his sons cards

what else exactly is he doing all day

Twitterwhooooo · 13/12/2021 08:54

Good update OP.

An apology to ds was good. Things don't always work out, which is a shame, but good for kids to know that adults can apologise for their mistakes.

IMVHE, you need to hold your line on this.

Implementing the new system is a JOINT responsibility.

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