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To think the anti-lockdown brigade have been proved right?
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Libertaire · 08/12/2021 19:34

We were told that if we all got vaccinated life would return to normal, and that process would be ‘cautious but irreversible’. So we complied. I am triple-jabbed and extremely grateful for the work of the brilliant scientists who made this possible.

Yet now, we are heading inexorably back into another lockdown. The fear mongering is being ratcheted up day by day. If this was ever about public health, it cannot be now because everyone who is vulnerable to covid has been offered at least two doses of vaccine.

We surrendered our freedoms willingly, to protect ourselves and one another and because we believed that we would get them back. But that isn’t happening, is it? An authoritarian government has confiscated them permanently and we will never get them back until we take them back, which is what anti-lockdown campaigners said from the start. They have been proved right, haven’t they?

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Lussekatt · 10/12/2021 21:55

@Snoozysnoozy

From the very start I remember them being very clear that this would be a process of lockdown restrictions and opening up for a period of at least three years.

Really? I recall the lockdown was to save the NHS from being overwhelmed, too flatten the curve, and to allow time for PPE to be procured.

Stay at home, save lives, protect the NHS.

It was only going to be 3 weeks. Then the vaccination was going to be our way out. Now it's boosters every 3 months and we still have other restrictions in place.

No, they were clear from the start. Rolling lockdowns and restrictions. And anyone who honestly believed the "three weeks" would be three weeks haven't a clue how viruses work. It was never, ever going to be three weeks.
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cardibach · 10/12/2021 22:20

@doublemonkey Also in the same article, someone working on the new Pfizer shot for Omricon saying that it will definitely be a three shot treatment. Just to be clear that's 3 new shots
In amongst all this ‘research’ you would have thought you would have come across the information that the 3 new shot idea was a misunderstanding. See the images.

To think the anti-lockdown brigade have been proved right? To think the anti-lockdown brigade have been proved right?
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doublemonkey · 10/12/2021 22:27

[quote cardibach]@doublemonkey Also in the same article, someone working on the new Pfizer shot for Omricon saying that it will definitely be a three shot treatment. Just to be clear that's 3 new shots
In amongst all this ‘research’ you would have thought you would have come across the information that the 3 new shot idea was a misunderstanding. See the images.[/quote]
No 'research' required - it's a newspaper article with a direct quote from the CEO of the company manufacturing the shots for Pfizer.

Your twitter post confirms that the new Omricon shot will be two shots and a booster.

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megustalacerveza · 10/12/2021 22:31

@doublemonkey no, it doesn't! It says the exact opposite!

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doublemonkey · 10/12/2021 22:44

[quote megustalacerveza]@doublemonkey no, it doesn't! It says the exact opposite![/quote]
The exact opposite would be the CEO saying that there would be no new shots for Omricon, but that's not what he said when 'clarifying'.

Here's another source and again, a direct quote

That implies substantial changes may be required to global vaccination plans. BioNTech CEO Dr. Ugur Sahin said at a virtual press conference on Wednesday that, against Omicron, the vaccine is effectively a three-dose vaccine.

“It is very clear, our vaccine, for the Omicron variant, should be a three-dose vaccine,” Sahin said

www.barrons.com/articles/covid-omicron-biontech-pfizer-51638988700

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megustalacerveza · 10/12/2021 22:56

@doublemonkey No. As the Twitter post clarifies, he meant the original two doses plus booster are needed against Omicron, not that there will be a three-dose vaccine for Omicron on top of these!

He means three dose as opposed to two dose, as it was originally packaged.

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Lilifer · 10/12/2021 23:10

@TulipsGarden

We're not in lockdown. If we didn't have vaccines we must definitely would be, but we're not.

Why do people think the government want lockdown? What's in it for them? It costs them vast amounts of money, pisses off the electorate, it's a nightmare.

It's costs the government nothing, they have not and will not lose one penny from their salaries and pensions, it costs the tax payer though who is going to be paying the cost of lockdowns for a long long time to come .
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Throckmorton · 10/12/2021 23:17

This is a pandemic. A huge, global medical emergency caused by a virus that can mutate and potentially evade current vaccines. How could you think if would be over quickly? Read Daniel DeFoe's history of the plague and give thanks that we have the luxury of modern medicine and vaccination.

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Lilifer · 11/12/2021 00:10

@LumosSolem

Well done, you missed the point entirely.

How?

Guessing from your response you didn't actually give a shit about ODA cuts anyway but I'm not surprised. Virtue signalling is obviously far more important.

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sst1234 · 11/12/2021 18:38

Does anyone still seriously believe the line ‘oh but there no lockdown though’. Its coming, you’d have to be willfully ignorant not to see it. The media cannot get enough of the new non-peer reviews report that Omicron is really bad. And parroting the line about ‘everyone’ wondering if the current restrictions are enough. Who is this ‘ ‘everyone’?

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ripples101 · 11/12/2021 19:21

@sst1234

Does anyone still seriously believe the line ‘oh but there no lockdown though’. Its coming, you’d have to be willfully ignorant not to see it. The media cannot get enough of the new non-peer reviews report that Omicron is really bad. And parroting the line about ‘everyone’ wondering if the current restrictions are enough. Who is this ‘ ‘everyone’?

Ok so it’s coming. If it happens, what do you think it means? What will you do?

I’ve seen you post numerous times on this forum on the topic of covid, and your party line seems to be to be critical of anyone who goes along with the guidelines/regulations/rules (however you wish to call them).

So, what are you going to do?
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MarshaBradyo · 11/12/2021 19:25

@sst1234

Does anyone still seriously believe the line ‘oh but there no lockdown though’. Its coming, you’d have to be willfully ignorant not to see it. The media cannot get enough of the new non-peer reviews report that Omicron is really bad. And parroting the line about ‘everyone’ wondering if the current restrictions are enough. Who is this ‘ ‘everyone’?

I really hope not.
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MarshaBradyo · 11/12/2021 19:25

We have to see how Plan B vote goes first

Which is far off lockdown

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FluffyBooBoo · 11/12/2021 21:01

This is not the case in my area of Scotland

Good job I was responding to a post about Scotland l/England/Wales in general, and not your specific area, in that case.

I don't really have time to compare every health board area.

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Bootikin · 11/12/2021 22:05

Have you always been this hard of thinking or is this a new issue? What level of stupid does it take to fail to assimilate (a) anti vac morons in U.K. allowing virus to spread (b) lack of available vac in say, South Africa allowing COVID to mutate (c) unrestricted travel allowing (b) to reach (a) .I really haven’t got the energy to try to explain it to OP. Are you surprised by gravity as well?

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Mara263 · 11/12/2021 22:36

Too many twats think they know better and won’t get vaccinated

Lots of people not bothering with social distancing Masks etc when they can (for example there was no one wearing a mask when I went into the hospital car park lift the other day)

You actually need an immune system to mount an effective immunity from a vaccine - if you already have a compromised immune system, as many vulnerable do, then the vaccine potentially is not effective for you

It’s plan B, not a full lockdown

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PlanetNormal · 19/12/2021 00:52

Yes, OP, you are spot on about another lockdown being inevitable. The anti-lockdown campaigners have 100% been proved right.

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Sensible123 · 06/01/2022 11:12

"FromEden The vaccines aren't effective enough. They haven't worked anywhere. Why can't they just admit this?"

I think you should admit @FromEden that you don't actually look at the data confirmed by multiple scientists that show that vaccines prevent death. Just follow the rules as the pandemic won't last forever, neither did spanish flu or other things before that.

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