To think *some* people are just fucking useless

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I'm in a WhatsApp group for a uni course I'm doing and the others are somewhat younger than Mme (19-22ish) and OH MY GOD they're useless at stuff.

Everything is a problem that someone else needs to sort out or a reason they can't do something.

So for example. We usually spend all day doing our modules. A morning session and and afternoon one.

Morning one has been moved online and the afternoon is on site. We have 1hr break between sessions. We've been given 3 days notice.

Them: "I can't make it for the afternoon session, I live 90 minutes away! E only have 60 minutes between sessions....Waaaah"
Me: "Kust come to campus as normal and use the library and do the session from there..."
Them: "waaaah, I can't, becaise we're not allowed use teams on my work laptop, it's not installed"
Me: "so, use the web version..."
Them: "but I haven't got headphones... waaaah"
Me: SO FUCKING BUY SOME!!!!

@wentworthinmate

My son would be like this. Didn't even finish his degree in YEAR 3 because nobody was there to push him. It is the youth of today imo. Have to be spoon fed.

That might reflect your son, but it in no way reflects mine. Mine had to repeat third year because of issues unrelated to his university course, but he stuck in and graduated this year. No spoon feeding required.

My dad has a theory that every generation sees the worst in the generation that comes after them, and sees their own in a much better light.

I think he might have a point, based on this thread.

@Wills

Kanaloa, in defence of Wentworthinmate - if she was still having to push her son in the third year of his degree then she’d still be spoon feeding him! As I’ve said above my son is like this and it drives me nuts. I’m not spoon feeding him, but he doesn’t seem to have the drive that my other three have. The moment I’m not pushing him he comes to a stop. At some point he has to take ownership of this - but when? He’s been told very clearly that if he fails his GCSEs he will have to take retakes AND work at the same time.

The only other thing I’d like to add is stop saying its the ‘younger’ generation. It’s not! Firstly my eldest two are extremely hard working, self reliant and capable. Equally I’ve come across plenty of older generations who are just as useless.

That’s what I meant though. How can the pp use her own child as a benchmark that the ‘younger generation’ are all rubbish when it’s her that produced him? Yes, there are some useless people. Always have been, always will be. It’s the presumption that it’s an entire generation that annoys me, with the addition that it must be that generations fault.

Kanaloa - sorry - see what you’re saying. Agree with you and FluffyBooBoo - we cannot/must not sweepingly tar a generation. Calling them the snowflake generation really winds me up! Like her or loathe her, Greta Thunberg is hardly a snowflake!

[quote FawnFrenchieMum]@FluffyBooBoo because 98% of stuff has been done online in the last 18 months.

Every single person in my household has earphones of some description, be that proper over the head ones, ear buds, proper meeting headset, free ones that came with the phones. How else did several people work from home and home school all at the same time?![/quote]
DH couldn't work from home, he was a gardener (he's since retired), I don't work, the DC home schooled in separate rooms because DS3 needed constant supervision and no distractions (ADHD), he only got headphones with his Chromebook from school when the whole class had to isolate.

So no, none of us have headphones. 🤷‍♂️

@Wills

Thanks, but in my case that's another £3 round trip on the bus. I'll get my DM to pick some up for me. She loves Primark.

Get over yourself. You don't know what else they might be dealing with. Stop being a d*ck

@Imy06

Get over yourself. You don't know what else they might be dealing with. Stop being a d*ck

You'll find that those who do the most whinging usually aren't the ones balancing single parenthood with work and study. No, the ones whinging are usually the ones who've wanted for nothing.

I deliver these kind of courses and you are right in a way. Although it's definitely not an age thing. I'm at a level where I am fortunate to be able to insist on some resourcefulness but there are other programmes who javent got the same leeway and the lecturers / assessors depending on the programme tear their hair out.

I helped them out for a while and spent 25 minutes explaining to someone how to call in sick to work (they are partially work based programmes )and they complained to the organisation that I wouldn't do ot for them. That caused a lot of hilarity.

There are many learners who have good reason and extra needs to ask for help. Everyone in our organisation will absolutely go to the ends of the earth for them. We will happily work weekends and evenings to help, give extra time , source equipment , move sessions if we can etc.

However for wvery genuine case there are 2 that just want to be spoon-fed. Frankly we are quick to remove them , if you can't attempt the base level of resourcefulness without good reason we aren't going to waste our time when someone who wants to learn can have their place.

My daughter is in uni and has the same kind of set up, she will get the bus for an hour and a half and have the lesson on her phone with earphones and take notes.

I mean they know they know they live the distance when they apply and know the equipment they need too, so no excuses really.
Most have done 2 years in college to get there and are used to taking responsibility for themselves but maybe some of the ones on your course haven’t and are getting used to the routine? Does seem like they re just used to everyone doing things for them.

@Imy06

Get over yourself. You don't know what else they might be dealing with. Stop being a d*ck

Well often what they are dealing with it being useless. As many others have said, it's generally not the people with lots of plates spinning or stressful lives who moan and kick up a fuss

@Lockheart

They actually type "waaaah"? How very odd.

Unless of course you're being ridiculously hyperbolic.

What on MN?? How very dare you even suggest such behaviour