To think *some* people are just fucking useless

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I'm in a WhatsApp group for a uni course I'm doing and the others are somewhat younger than Mme (19-22ish) and OH MY GOD they're useless at stuff.

Everything is a problem that someone else needs to sort out or a reason they can't do something.

So for example. We usually spend all day doing our modules. A morning session and and afternoon one.

Morning one has been moved online and the afternoon is on site. We have 1hr break between sessions. We've been given 3 days notice.

Them: "I can't make it for the afternoon session, I live 90 minutes away! E only have 60 minutes between sessions....Waaaah"
Me: "Kust come to campus as normal and use the library and do the session from there..."
Them: "waaaah, I can't, becaise we're not allowed use teams on my work laptop, it's not installed"
Me: "so, use the web version..."
Them: "but I haven't got headphones... waaaah"
Me: SO FUCKING BUY SOME!!!!

Mute the group chat. Problem solved.

Stop sticking your oar in everyone else's business and trying to solve all their problems for them. My response would be 'Oh that's a shame' and let them fix it.

I’m with you. I said recently to someone that I think my kids will be fine in the world. The amount of people I come across who are unable to think for themselves, moan about the slightest inconvenience, and seem incapable of rolling with the softest of punches, is quite something.

they don't have to be in two places at once

Yup. That's the compromise I mentioned. By it's very nature, a compromise involves a level of inconvenience.

It's not about them usually being at uni anyway. It's about the combination of what would usually be at home and in person study on the same day, without enough time to do that, so the at home study is having to be moved to somewhere that is less convenient for them.

I don’t think it’s an age thing really. Some people are just bloody useless. We’re buying and selling a house at the moment and I’ve been really amazed at how completely useless/clueless so many people involved in the process are - the estate agent and the bank are particularly ridiculous. I just don’t understand how they get away with it. I wouldn’t get away with that level of uselessness in my job - I’d be sued and/or wouldn’t have any business.

You sound nice

Try the following:-

Mute the group chat. Problem solved.

Totally. My 28 year old niece has yet to have her second covid jab which was scheduled for about September ... because it's "too difficult" to find out where in the large city she lives is offering vaccinations, book an appointment and get herself to the appointment.

Not an anti-vaxxer. Just fucking useless at organising and "adulting".

Why don’t you mind tour own business and study on your own if they don’t meet your standards, simple as

Some people are annoying. Not age based, just some people are like that.

In my uni group there’s a lot of ‘when is assignment 3 due?’ Or ‘how many words for assignment 2?’ Well, it’s posted on the website under the assignment brief which you will need to look at before you start anyway. Sometimes I think it’s an attempt at conversation starting rather than an actual question.

There will be useless people everywhere from personal experience, they wi be useless at things you are good at, I am guessing they must be good at something since you are in a group with them, what do you get out of it?

Although you sound generally very judgy. I don’t tend to look at other students and judge them in having Starbucks.

Also from what you wrote they are not wanting a solution from them they just want to have a whinge about it, try not to get worked up and get your stress level up for stupid stuff

From you*

We had an older and very annoying person on our course when I was at uni. He was always getting over involved in our coversations, was very judgemental and didn't really get the way we communicated. Sounds oh so familiar.

If the group is so annoying just press the mute button! You don’t come across as a supportive person so probably better for ever if you leave the group.

@theelephantinthegroup

It's not just younger people OP. I think there are some people who are so used to someone else sorting out any minor problem they have, or re-arranging things to avoid any sort on inconvenience to them, that they feel genuinely affronted when this does not happen.

For example. I help run a cubs group. I and the other leaders are all volunteers, all work and all have our own children and other caring responsibilities. We recently organised a weekend camp (giving up a full weekend, plus many hours beforehand preparing activities/risk assessments etc). Complaints we received from parents included:

• we should hand them printed letters instead of e-mailing, so they don't have to remember to check e-mails/search for the letter etc
• we should have phoned anyone who did not reply to say their child was coming (complaint from parent who ignored 4 e-mails clearly stating deadline- and actually told us that he never reads his e-mails, if something is important enough, someone will phone him)
• we shouldn't order materials/food weeks in advance, this is not fair on children who decide they want to come at the last minute.
• rather than asking parents to tell us in advance if there are any foods their child can't/won't eat, we should provide several choices for each meal; parents can't be expected to know exactly what their child does not like
• we should work with the local beavers/scouts/brownies/guides etc to all go away at the same weekend so parents with children in different sections can have a few days off

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This is how teaching is going - it is exhausting

I'm sorry - their ages are irrelevant.

All day morning and afternoon doing lectures! Sounds awful and not like the uni I knew and loved. When do they get time to actually research, independent study and do the work.

@00100001 YABU unless you tell us more about the free degree....!

[quote FawnFrenchieMum]@FluffyBooBoo because 98% of stuff has been done online in the last 18 months.

Every single person in my household has earphones of some description, be that proper over the head ones, ear buds, proper meeting headset, free ones that came with the phones. How else did several people work from home and home school all at the same time?![/quote]
Whenever I'm on Zoom meetings I'm in my bedroom with the door closed. So I don't need headphones. The vast majority of uni students wouldn't have an issue getting a private space in their own homes, therefore wouldn't have needed headphones, £3 or otherwise.

I think this has been such a horrible time to be at university, it's understandable that the slightest hint of lockdowns returning brings out some overreactions.

OP doesn't sound like a particularly nice person to make a thread about it and call them useless. Heaven forbid people struggle sometimes.

It must be so frustrating being a mature student most uni students with no real life experience, like other PP suggested mute the group

I worked in higher education for close to 30 years. Some students always had this hard done by sort of attitude. As soon as they had a lecture at 9 in the morning the whinging started, they couldn’t make a deadline ever etc. They will probably remain complainers all their lives and become the irritating colleagues, the self centred Husbands, the annoying Mother in laws and moaning Father in laws of the future.

Plus the all students are poor mantra is simply untrue. I had one year where I had a single Mum juggling everything plus working in a call
centre for extra money and a student whose parents bought him a flat outright in Canary Wharf when he was starting his first job. They were poles apart finance wise.

We all thought we were grown up and adult at that age when we were that age - it's only now looking at my SC and their stupidity about everyday things that I think 🙄 . However I do believe that all our gadgets and social media have created this - masses of people who cannot think for themselves and are used to consulting with mum and dad or friends about everything !

I have some sympathy with your comments OP. My Dd did a really expensive work based course and most of the other students were relatively recent graduates. They had to work together on mini projects for every module, and my dd got so sick of them crying off, dumping work on everyone else, taking credit for work they'd had no part of, etc etc. How they'll do at work I don't know.

OP I'm with you, there's always a few on any whatsapp group, be it school based, sport based etc who just seem to not get things, find the most ordinary tasks perplexing and/or are too bloody lazy to scroll back and check things themselves so insist on asking questions which have already been answered, sometimes multiple times. I think your error may be in assuming that because people are engaging in a college course that they have a certain level of smarts/competence. My own mother (left school at 12) has, with absolute justifucation pondered how someone of my education level (PhD) can be so stupid about some things.

“ They will probably remain complainers all their lives and become the irritating colleagues, the self centred Husbands, the annoying Mother in laws and moaning Father in laws of the future.”

True true true