To think *some* people are just fucking useless

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I'm in a WhatsApp group for a uni course I'm doing and the others are somewhat younger than Mme (19-22ish) and OH MY GOD they're useless at stuff.

Everything is a problem that someone else needs to sort out or a reason they can't do something.

So for example. We usually spend all day doing our modules. A morning session and and afternoon one.

Morning one has been moved online and the afternoon is on site. We have 1hr break between sessions. We've been given 3 days notice.

Them: "I can't make it for the afternoon session, I live 90 minutes away! E only have 60 minutes between sessions....Waaaah"
Me: "Kust come to campus as normal and use the library and do the session from there..."
Them: "waaaah, I can't, becaise we're not allowed use teams on my work laptop, it's not installed"
Me: "so, use the web version..."
Them: "but I haven't got headphones... waaaah"
Me: SO FUCKING BUY SOME!!!!

Trish you do realise most millennials are early/mid 30s and have families of their own ?

They’re not recent graduates in their early 20s.

@TrishM80

That's just the millennial generation. They've had their arses wiped for them all their lives and can't fend for themselves in the outside world.

How old do you think the millennials are?

I've come across plenty of middle aged men like this. Purposefully obtuse, obstructive and just plain lazy.

@TractorAndHeadphones

Also *@ClassicSpamFritter* ADHD doesn’t give you the right to be entitled, or to have everyone else run around after you.

If you forget to enroll your kid - kid just doesn’t go , or you do the extra work involved in getting them organised as a Later entry. If you would do this then nothing to be worried about.

What’s not ok is blaming camp staff for not chasing you until you pay. Or scolding them for ruining your kid’s childhood.If you don’t pay you don’t get in simple as that what do you want them to do about it?

I’ve put in lots of effort to be organised etc and when I slip up - I APOLOGISE. A lot of exceptions have in fact been made although it was my fault and I’m very grateful.

But people marching in , demanding things and blaming others? Not acceptable. Those who do this and blame ADHD give everyone else a bad name

Okaaaayy…firstly, this isn’t the workplace and this person is just having a moan to another student? And I didn’t say anyone was using it as an excuse, I just said maybe they just found the situation a big deal?

Secondly you seem to be projecting onto me. I said I worried that I will be a forgetful parent. You have retorted to me that I am going to demand/moan/blame my illness? I didnt say anything about camp or whatever, I just said I have concerns I am going to forget stuff for my child. I have never demanded anything, don’t make assumptions about people online.

Wind your neck in? What an odd response. Have a lovely evening

Also @TractorAndHeadphones I expressed concern about the future, so thanks for your support. And if you think that no one is allowed to moan except to themselves or a good friend, why are you on mumsnet trying to moan at me for doing NOTHING wrong except saying to someone else that I worry about being a forgetful parent? Hope you feel better about yourself for having a go at me for absolutely no reason 👍

@ClassicSpamFritter

Also *@TractorAndHeadphones* I expressed concern about the future, so thanks for your support. And if you think that no one is allowed to moan except to themselves or a good friend, why are you on mumsnet trying to moan at me for doing NOTHING wrong except saying to someone else that I worry about being a forgetful parent? Hope you feel better about yourself for having a go at me for absolutely no reason 👍

Not sure why you’re so upset - you were commenting on a post about people being disorganised (fine if you’re worried about this) but blaming people ther people for it (‘not fine). Wind your neck in and have a good day

@ClassicSpamFritter online calendar apps and family calendars - basically write EVERYTHING down and write it down twice. Take pictures of letters that come home from school. Have a letter folder that everything goes into. There are loads of strategies you don’t have to be ‘that’ forgetful parent

We have dentist appointments in our shared calendar for next April. Opticians appointments. Any time the car is booked in for MOT etc. it pops up as a reminder of our phones and we can remind each other

@TrishM80

That's just the millennial generation. They've had their arses wiped for them all their lives and can't fend for themselves in the outside world.

WE are the millennial generation ffs.

Millennials range from 26-41 years old so the majority of peoples ages who would join a group called 'mumsnet' aimed at mothers in the mothering period of life.

Boomers 1950 - 1964
Gen X 1965 - 1979
Millenial 1980 - 1994
Gen Z 1995 - 2009
Alphas 2010 - 2025

Useless ..yes I agree with you there. I think their parents need to stop wiping their bottoms for them.

Ha! Millennials….

@TrishM80

That's just the millennial generation. They've had their arses wiped for them all their lives and can't fend for themselves in the outside world.

Yeah, no.

It's not.

Yes, OP, some people ARE f**king useless! Ignore the posters who think the whiners are right to moan about headphones, travel etc.
Often, those who do the least, complain the most. Probably because they have little idea of the effort involved to take the initiative.
Met and known tons of people like this in my professional and personal life. Now, I give them a wide berth whenever possible.
Also, ignore those who say you shouldn’t complain about them. Surely, that’s what mumsnet AIBU is for?

My son would be like this. Didn't even finish his degree in YEAR 3 because nobody was there to push him. It is the youth of today imo. Have to be spoon fed.

I understand your frustration - you are obviously a problem solver while they seem to just be moaning and being helpless..We all know people like that (and they are not necessarily all young).

But unless you are supposed to be doing some project that requires close team work, (and yes, that would be really difficult!) I'm not sure why you are taking these problems on - just leave them alone to sort themselves out (or not). Mute the group chat if it stresses you out?
Having said that, 3 days notice is pretty short notice for people who MAY have lots of other commitments and who may not have much money. So maybe some discussion with course tutors might help to highlight where improvements / reorganisations could be made.

Ah, good old ageism. The irony.

@wentworthinmate

My son would be like this. Didn't even finish his degree in YEAR 3 because nobody was there to push him. It is the youth of today imo. Have to be spoon fed.

You didn't raise him any better?

Odd how this amazing, resilient generation apparently raised such a load of losers.

‘Youth of today’
I’m sure if WhatsApp groups had been around in earlier decades there would have been plenty of grumbling from students about all sorts. It’s just pre internet it was a lot harder to tell anyone your gripes.

Mobile phones come with earphones (though TBF the apple ones have the lightning connector so can't be used with laptops). You can also get them at the pound shop. I forgot mine on a work trip and got some cute ones with a fruit design.

YABU. "People" can be like this. Not just young people, it's just easier to look back and think you had your shit together more when you were the same age. None of us did. And we didn't have a pandemic like this to contend with. Instead of eye rolling or scoffing at your course mates try and be more understanding. They're probably on a thread somewhere having a moan about you 😉

@wentworthinmate

My son would be like this. Didn't even finish his degree in YEAR 3 because nobody was there to push him. It is the youth of today imo. Have to be spoon fed.

I mean that’s probably your fault really. Presumably you’re the one that spoon fed him and didn’t teach him independence.

Thanks OP, firstly I agree with you over uselessness.

Secondly all the information about Apprentice Degrees. I’ve been wondering about this for my son. He’s a born engineer but is not, ummm, ‘academic’. However although he’s only 15 he’d unfortunately fall into the bracket of ‘F’ useless. Given that we have 4 kids and he’s the only one who doesn’t have the skills to resolve issues I really don’t understand what’s happened, but I’m hoping he’ll grow out of it. It drives us nuts!

They can afford a £3 pair if headphones.

Where are you getting headphones for £3? I need some and can't justify the amount they charge around here.

Kanaloa, in defence of Wentworthinmate - if she was still having to push her son in the third year of his degree then she’d still be spoon feeding him! As I’ve said above my son is like this and it drives me nuts. I’m not spoon feeding him, but he doesn’t seem to have the drive that my other three have. The moment I’m not pushing him he comes to a stop. At some point he has to take ownership of this - but when? He’s been told very clearly that if he fails his GCSEs he will have to take retakes AND work at the same time.

The only other thing I’d like to add is stop saying its the ‘younger’ generation. It’s not! Firstly my eldest two are extremely hard working, self reliant and capable. Equally I’ve come across plenty of older generations who are just as useless.

@TheLovelinessOfBaublyDemons

They can afford a £3 pair if headphones.

Where are you getting headphones for £3? I need some and can't justify the amount they charge around here.

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