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AIBU to ask if Boris was having a manic episode in his peppa pig speech today?

255 replies

Talkwhilstyouwalk · 22/11/2021 22:44

Just that really

I have a loved one who has bipolar disorder and to me, this looked very much like a manic episode. If so, I hope he gets the help he needs.

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PieMistee · 23/11/2021 07:14

I was thinking of the Jeremy Vine interview. The "charm" of Johnson is definitely wearing thin for those that fell for it.

SpangoDweller · 23/11/2021 07:26

Goodness, that Jeremy Vine story

SickAndTiredAgain · 23/11/2021 07:27

I know it's 'fashionable' on MumsNet to hate the chap, but I'm prepared to give Boris the benefit of doubt. I think his heart's there but his delivery is often the problem

It’s not fashionable, it’s reasonable.
And his heart is most definitely not in the right place.

PassingByAndThoughtIdDropIn · 23/11/2021 07:28

I think he probably does feel skint. He's given up his Telegraph column which was paying quarter of a million. With that and speaking engagements and MP salary he made nearly a million pounds before he became Prime Minister. Now he's down to 160,000 (about 100,000 after tax) which is clearly lots, but easily eaten up by school fees on the younger children, any spousal support for ex-wives and Carrie's notoriously expensive tastes.

SomepeopleareTERFSgetoverit · 23/11/2021 07:30

I suppose if he compares himself to the millionaires in his cabinet he will feel badly-off but it just makes me think how out of touch the Government is from the reality of most people in the UK.

SusieBob · 23/11/2021 07:37

He is just a fucking moron and the country is finally starting to look past the loveable clown persona.

leotardrock · 23/11/2021 07:38

That shambles wasn't down to anyone but the Prime Minister.
I'm a MoD civil servant and I wouldn't let one of my senior military colleagues go to a meeting or presentation like that and I can't believe the Civil Servants in Downing Street would.
Those papers would have been numbered or tagged or in a folder - not just in a random pile.
Treasury Tag anyone? 😁

Roussette · 23/11/2021 07:44

I know it's 'fashionable' on MumsNet to hate the chap, but I'm prepared to give Boris the benefit of doubt. I think his heart's there but his delivery is often the problem...

I don't know how many Shock emojis I can give for that. I don't dislike him because it's 'fashion'.
I dislike him for what he is doing and has done to the country.
His heart is not there, he is stone cold greed and evil.

And he is totally incapable of doing the job. He's been incapable in every job he's ever done.

All this bluster, joking and shambolic delivery is to hide what is really going on... the care cap on the poorest pensioners and selling off the NHS

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 23/11/2021 07:44

‘I know it's 'fashionable' on MumsNet to hate the chap, but I'm prepared to give Boris the benefit of doubt. I think his heart's there but his delivery is often the problem....
(And yes, I'm on a minimum wage, rent my home, don't have a pension except the state pension and no, I also haven't had any time off this year...before anyone suggests otherwise).’

Most people will be crying out for competent governance. The Tories will soon only be getting support from the land owners who don’t have to work and those with nothing to lose. I suspect these two groups are their key demographic now.

Justcannotbearsed · 23/11/2021 07:45

He’s unprepared and it doesn’t matter. If that was Theresa may she’d have been ripped apart.

Roussette · 23/11/2021 07:49

And just imagine if it was Dianne Abbott? She made one mis step with one word once. She was annihilated for days and days.

Yet people are excusing him. I'm gobsmacked.

He's supposed to be the one man reperesenting the UK on the world stage. And we have this. We're an embarrassment and the world is laughing at us.

It's not funny anymore. The soundbites, the hair, the jokes, the buffoonery like getting caught on a zipwire with your trousers half mast waving union jacks.

I'm ashamed of what we've become.

And I do hope his red wall Tory MPs are furious of how they've been let down by him. And at the next opportunity the elecotrate up there wake up.

longwayoff · 23/11/2021 07:54

Oh dear, I nearly mistook him for the hideous, muttering, rambling and dangerous wreck that is Jeremy Corbyn. Thank heavens we were saved from that by the foresight of the many who voted for this giant of a man instead.

Peregrina · 23/11/2021 07:54

All this bluster, joking and shambolic delivery is to hide what is really going on... the care cap on the poorest pensioners and selling off the NHS

This is of course, where he has a problem - the Red Wall seats are not wealthy ones, unlike many of the pensioners in the South East - so it is going to be difficult to please both. At the moment the party seems most interested in the Red Wall.

The minor rebellion last night on the care bill is also important. Last year we saw Cummings blatantly breaking the rules, Tory MPs dutifully defended him, cue massive postbags of complaint, and they then look foolish when Cummings got the boot. Then the Paterson affair, dutifully voting for it, cue more angry emails and letters, cue an immediate reversal, so the dutiful MPs look both stupid and dishonest to boot - especially since 13 MPs did vote with the Opposition. So what next for him - his party discipline is gone.

Not that I feel an ounce of sympathy for him - he wanted the job, he didn't mind who he stabbed in the back to get it.

Roussette · 23/11/2021 07:56

Agree Peregrina yes the care cap bill got through but with a massively decreased majority.
I think the tory party are in turmoil. History tells us that the tories get rid when it becomes too much to support. That will be happening soon I imagine.
But the alternative doesn't bear thinking about.

Ekofisk · 23/11/2021 07:56

At least he rambled on about Peppa Pig World rather than Scottish Peppa Pig (where he might identify quite well with Daddy Pig).

Notonthestairs · 23/11/2021 07:59

I don't think anyone else in the party wants the PM job yet. Johnson has got a lot more flack to flounder his way through before they'll start sticking their heads above the parapet.

Fireflygal · 23/11/2021 08:01

@MeanderingGently, he is PM so should have the skills, it's not supposed to be a trainee position. He also has access to assistants to help him.

There is NO excuse. The likeihood is he was hungover and he's arrogant so thought he could present in that state.

He has put on weight and it looks alcohol related.

Peregrina · 23/11/2021 08:03

History tells us that the tories get rid when it becomes too much to support. That will be happening soon I imagine.

Two by-elections coming up - both very hard for the Tories to lose, and difficult for the voters to know which of the opposing candidates to vote for. So he might be safe yet.

Besides which PM Patel, or PM Truss? Neither of which would be any better.

notacooldad · 23/11/2021 08:05

If a woman tried to use that as an excuse in the workplace then she'd get all of the eye rolls, reminded that her home life should not be impacting her work, and it would be implied that she shouldn't be in her role if she can't keep up
But he hasn't tried to use it as an excuse as far as I'm aware.
Someone just put it out there as a suggestion to why he was babbling.

Roussette · 23/11/2021 08:06

Exactly. As I say, the alternatives are scary. Not Patel, she's not liked. Liz Truss, god help us

Rubyupbeat · 23/11/2021 08:06

I love this beautiful country, but seeing BJ just makes me so embarrassed, hes not stupid, he tries to be down with everyone, but just looks an idiot.
The fun boy 3 weren't wrong with their predictions back in the 80s......

LakieLady · 23/11/2021 08:10

@Udouhun

He just looked hungover in my opinion.
He looked hungover and sounded half-cut.

I reckon he took a lot of booze on board the night before and was still a bit pissed.

Notonthestairs · 23/11/2021 08:19

Isn't it strange/sign of the times that the question - Is Boris having a manic episode? - is even asked?

Have we ever wondered that of previous PM's?

I don't think he has bi-polar. I do think he was hungover which isn't a great look.

LakieLady · 23/11/2021 08:22

@PassingByAndThoughtIdDropIn

I think he probably does feel skint. He's given up his Telegraph column which was paying quarter of a million. With that and speaking engagements and MP salary he made nearly a million pounds before he became Prime Minister. Now he's down to 160,000 (about 100,000 after tax) which is clearly lots, but easily eaten up by school fees on the younger children, any spousal support for ex-wives and Carrie's notoriously expensive tastes.
His children with Marina Wheeler are all in their 20s, so he only has one of school age, the child he had with Helen Macintyre.

That's children he'll admit to, anyway.

521Jeanie · 23/11/2021 08:24

Well it conveniently kept all of today's newspapers off the real headline story, about voting to destroy the NHS last night. All people will notice or remember is Peppa Pig.