Stranger touching baby's face

[videovixen]

I was on a packed bus today and saw a man standing near the doors who kept looking at my baby in her pushchair. When people got off of the bus he came and stood near the pushchair. He took out his headphones and said 'how old is she?' and smiled. I said '6 months' he said 'aw she reminds me of my granddaughter.' I just smiled and nodded my head. He started waving to my daughter and kept on saying hi. He then stroked/touched her hand to get her attention whilst say hi. I said 'don't touch her please' and he replied 'oh yeah of course, Covid and that.'
I just got a wipe out and wiped her hand to clean it.

I'm all for people being polite to my daughter and trying to get her attention. On the same bus, a woman sitting next to me was waving to my daughter whilst saying hi to her. Of course I have no problem with this.

But a stranger touching my baby whether it's on her hand or her face, what's that all about? I would never touch a baby I didn't know on their hand (or anywhere else) especially a baby I've just come across on the bus.
If a stranger came up to me making conversation, they wouldn't touch me on my hand (unless they're a creep) so why do it to a baby? I was so confused for the rest of the bus journey and both my mum and DP were somewhat shocked when I told them too.

I've seen similar threads on this recently and people tend to say the OP is overreacting. If you think I'm being unreasonable, can you explain why you think it's okay for a complete stranger to put their hands on a baby they don't know at all?

Unclench your arse and breathe ffs !

Lol, I’ve said that to people and they’ve still not stopped. If someone can’t read a child and continues despite the child’s reaction, do you think they’re going to take the hint from an adult too unless you explicitly tell them to piss off?

I would say please don’t touch my baby we are on our way for a covid test as they have a temp..

😅 @OnceuponaRainbow18

I may be being a bit daft here.But why are some poster's saying he was being nice what's the harm. Just because it's a baby that's being touched, it seems to be acceptable.

@Staryflight445

It really isn’t disgusting to say that without consent these interactions are forced. Some kids become terrified of strangers because of these interactions, it isn’t fair, or wanted.

No one has a right to touch anyone else, adult or child and it’s disgusting to think otherwise.

As I stated before, I never called this man weird. But let’s face it, many of these unwanted interactions are strange and some people are a bit weird. Such a shame you find that more offensive than people touching children without consent.

Again, it's not about rights. I've already said that. Nobody is saying they have a right to do anything. I am saying it is normal to come into contact with people. So you can stop being disgusted now.

And I said that he had been called a weirdo, not that you personally had called him a weirdo. It's not an issue of consent, normal physical contact happens all the time and we don't ask for consent for every passing touch.

Because people want to show affection towards a baby

It’s a very natural feeling to feel towards a baby becuase they are so innocent and vulnerable

One we should celebrate rather than berate when so many people are hostile, suspicious and unfriendly

@Staryflight445

Lol, I’ve said that to people and they’ve still not stopped. If someone can’t read a child and continues despite the child’s reaction, do you think they’re going to take the hint from an adult too unless you explicitly tell them to piss off?

Don't make hints then, just talk to them like a normal person. Accompanied with moving the baby (depending on the scenario), it's not a big deal and doesn't need all this drama 🤷‍♀️

@BlaBlaSmthSmth

It literally isn't part of everyday interaction. I'm so tired of trying to explain myself so thank you for this😂

Maybe reason you feel like you have to keep repeating yourself is that you aren't grasping what is being said to you 😂

passing physical contact is a completely normal part of everyday interaction.

And maybe you need to understand that just because YOU don't mind people touching your baby doesn't mean everything needs to agree with you and not have a problem with it. Everytime someone says they don't want someone to touch their child, you're quoting them explaining why you think it's okay. People aren't obliged to agree with you

the issue isn't that someone doesn't want an interaction. Jesus it's the mockery and the ridiculous language being used to describe this poor man. "Weirdo" "pawing at" and now "fondling" 🤣*
If you genuinely have a problem and think it's completely reasonable, why the need to repeatedly amp up the language?*

But the issue is that someone doesn't want interaction because you've commented plenty of times saying interaction is a part of daily life or whatever the hell your point is. You've also commented way before pp chimed in and made comments about the man who touched my daughters hand so clearly that's not your issue.
I also never used any of those terms to describe the guy so not sure what those words have to do with my original post.

If you want someone touching your baby, by all means go for it. I don't know why you keep yapping away saying the same point to everyone who says they don't want someone to touch their child.

@Staryflight445

I can only imagine that the type of people that enjoy these interactions generally love themselves and like the attention of having a baby/ think their baby is the best baby ever etc. I personally don’t need to feel validated by random strangers being in my face/ touching my child.

The mockery to those that hate these unwanted interactions is really bizarre. @videovixen

The mockery to those that hate these unwanted interactions is really bizarre

So strange😂 as if we should just put up and shut up when someone's doing something we're not comfortable with. So odd

Staryflight445

It really isn’t disgusting to say that without consent these interactions are forced. Some kids become terrified of strangers because of these interactions, it isn’t fair, or wanted.

No one has a right to touch anyone else, adult or child and it’s disgusting to think otherwise.

As I stated before, I never called this man weird. But let’s face it, many of these unwanted interactions are strange and some people are a bit weird. Such a shame you find that more offensive than people touching children without consent.

This. It's disgusting that some people think calling this behaviour inappropriate and weird, is more offensive than some random weirdo putting his grotty paws on your baby. Speaks volumes about some on here.

Man: Hiya there baby! Aren't you lovely! Touches baby's hand

Mother: Can you NOT touch my baby please! Wet wipes baby's hand

Mother is "confused for rest of journey".

Let's just look at the facts here people. It's ridiculous.

We're clearly not the same person luv

Thank fuck. It must be such a miserable and exhausting existence to be so uptight and fearful and to see the bad in everything……luv.

@IAmMeThisIsI

Man: Hiya there baby! Aren't you lovely! Touches baby's hand

Mother: Can you NOT touch my baby please! Wet wipes baby's hand

Mother is "confused for rest of journey".

Let's just look at the facts here people. It's ridiculous.

You have no right to dictate how other people feel.

HTH.

@IAmMeThisIsI

Man: Hiya there baby! Aren't you lovely! Touches baby's hand

Mother: Can you NOT touch my baby please! Wet wipes baby's hand

Mother is "confused for rest of journey".

Let's just look at the facts here people. It's ridiculous.

I said 'don't touch her please,' there was no aggression. There was no emphasis on any words especially 'not' as that word wasn't even used. There was no exclamation mark used in the sentence as there was no emphasis on anything.

Why don't you get your facts right before commenting instead of paraphrasing to fit your strange agenda? @IAmMeThisIsI

@IAmMeThisIsI
Let's just look at the facts here people. It's ridiculous.

Aye, facts and fiction spring to mind.
😂😂😂

@PinkSyCo

We're clearly not the same person luv

Thank fuck. It must be such a miserable and exhausting existence to be so uptight and fearful and to see the bad in everything……luv.

Thank fuck. It must be so miserable and exhausting to think you know someone's life and how they act during day to day situations based on one post you've read on MN. cya hun

See ya, wouldn’t wanna be ya……sweetie.

‘ Thank fuck. It must be such a miserable and exhausting existence to be so uptight and fearful and to see the bad in everything’

I’m really not uptight or fearful but can still acknowledge that touching random babies is not acceptable or something I have to tolerate, thanks.

I always remember the adage that all hands have either held a penis or touched a hand that’s held a penis.

Omg not a.....a.....a penis 😱

This thread is 🦇 💩

And maybe you need to understand that just because YOU don't mind people touching your baby doesn't mean everything needs to agree with you and not have a problem with it. Everytime someone says they don't want someone to touch their child, you're quoting them explaining why you think it's okay. People aren't obliged to agree with you

Oh my god. I honestly don't know how many times you would like me to explain this. You or I or anyone else may not want any interaction at any time. That is one thing and happens to most of us every now and then. What is not on is to pretend to be shocked and confused and to invite other people to insult someone who was doing something completely normal. You were the one with the problem not him so stop bitching about the poor bloke.

But the issue is that someone doesn't want interaction because you've commented plenty of times saying interaction is a part of daily life or whatever the hell your point is.

I've pointed that out because it is normal to have those interactions. I've also repeatedly said that it's ok not to want those interactions and have also repeatedly explained why I was pointing that out.

I don't know what your issue with comprehension is.

I am "yapping" no more than you. Sorry but I am just not hateful to complete strangers and I accept that any issues I have with interacting with others is my issue, shame you can't be so self aware 🤷‍♀️

What is not on is to pretend to be shocked and confused and to invite other people to insult someone who was doing something completely normal

Who was pretending to be shocked?
Wtf are you actually talking about.

I haven't invited anyone to come and insult him. Rather I've asked people if I'm being U then can someone explain why it's okay to touch a strangers baby who they don't know at all. If others have insulted him, that's their own choice

Ignore them, OP. Beyond bonkers to think that strangers have any kind of privileges to go up and start touching a stranger's child, especially on the hand and face. Yes, babies are adorable but you give them a smile, pay the mother a compliment but under no circumstances should you go up to them and start touching them.

To the ones thinking it's ok, how old would you say is the cut off when strangers have to start respecting your personal space and privacy?? 🤦🏼‍♀️ Bonkers...