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I hate my husband and am angry all the time around my kids

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Cotscats · 14/11/2021 21:44

Looking for some help unravelling my feelings. There is no one in real life I would want to admit this to. Family and friends think we're happily married and my husband is great.

Our marriage is in a bad state. We haven't had sex since conceiving our youngest (now 7 years old). Sex life was ok when dating. After our first child arrived (now 12) things went downhill. He's not very interested - used to watch a lot of porn and I clearly don't really turn him on.

That's one issue. The other is he does not/will not talk to me. If I start a conversation it's like a chore for him to join in. It's an open joke - he'll tolerate me and listen to me ramble on but it's like he's doing me a favour. He's not interested in talking about anything with me really - not the kids, not our future plans ... he prefers me to sort it all out then inform him. An example is choosing schools for the children; he will leave it to me to book open days, visit, look around, make the applications. It's like this with most things in our life - booking a holiday, buying a garden shed or a car - all research and arrangements down to me.

Lastly I recently went from part time to full time work and he will not do anything additional to share the load now I have less hours in the day. We talked about this before I accepted the full time job and he assured me he would share the load. Do Friday school run for example. He doesn't. I am so frustrated and angry that I blew up a couple of weeks ago and he refuses to talk to me about it because I'm so angry.

This is what happens every time I try to talk to him about an issue in our relationship. I go to him, talk calmly and reasonably about the issue. He immediately goes on the defensive and starts talking in a booming voice that drowns me out. I ask him to quieten down so the children don't hear. He doesn't. Then I start to feel angry and frustrated. I'll either shout or cry - and that's his cue. He storms off. Sometimes leaves the house. More often goes to another room and sulks. If I follow him he gets angrier and shouts. Says he can't talk to me because all I do is shout and put him down. But I don't - I start off trying to talk but then he refuses to talk and booms over me to shut me up then I feel frustrated. It's as though he has this perfect formula to stop us ever communicating. I hate it. I can't stand being around him any longer. Today I just wanted to give up. I can't live like this anymore. I want to feel happy.

I take it out on the children. I'm short with them, impatient, unsmiling. The opposite of who I am and the parent I want to be. Why am I taking it out on them and not him? I can't think straight anymore and feel so hopeless about the future.

OP posts:
workwoes123 · 16/11/2021 06:15

It sounds like your husband learned how to parent from his crappy parents… and now he’s teaching your children how to do it. Right now he’s teaching your kids what fathers are, what it means to be a father and you are teaching them what it means to be a mother.

DH and I had some similar issues. He brought some very negative patterns of behaviour from his own up bringing - always seeing the negative, being angry and critical. The crucial difference is that he was also open to me pointing this out and wanting to change. It was really really hard and we did argue over it but we got there in the end. It doesn’t sound like your DH is at all interested in becoming a better father unfortunately.

Finknottlesnewt · 16/11/2021 07:29

Cotscats wow that is a genuinely hard relationship to be in .

One of the greatest irritants I find with Mumsnet is the glib 'leave your husband' 'just (!) get a divorce' 'LTB' (leave the bastard) etc . Which is given out for practically all crimes and misdemeanours committed by male partners. With pretty much every character trait assigned the 'abuse' tag.

The reason I find it so irritating is because on rare occasions , the advice to leave an abusive arse is so obviously the ONLY thing to do . This is one of those rare occasions.

Your husbands sulking and stonewalling IS abusive. His behaviour towards the children IS abusive. As far as I can make out the ONLY positive that he brings to the table is a higher income.

You really need to start the research required to get the best possible outcome from a divorce.

The fact that the house is in his name only is irrelevant as you are married. You need to do some very basic stuff to ensure you cannot be denied your legal entitlements if you decide to divorce. Even if you decide to remain married it's a pretty important thing to do anyway.

  1. Register an interest in your home.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/notice-of-home-rights-registration-hr1

You can do this yourself without a lawyer .

  1. Collect all details of your husbands income and any savings. Plus annual bonuses.
  1. Keep a detailed diary of his behaviour towards the children. His behaviour (from what you describe) does not make him suitable for none supervised access. He definitely needs parenting classes. Personally I would make him jump through the child arrangements order hoops.. where you can provide your diary and evidence of his behaviour towards them . In an effort to get him to attend such a program in order to obtain access. He really doesn't deserve free access.
  1. Stop with the divorce guilt !! More kids than not come from divorced parents these days. The guilt should be coming from them enduring their parents awful relationship.
  1. Look at discussing an occupation order with your lawyer. You may be able to stay in the house . Especially if you can afford the mortgage (with maintenance)

6 . Look at the turn2us benefits calculator to see what other financial help available. Remember that child maintenance not counted.

  1. Yet yourself to counselling in order to work through how to leave.

Good luck x

Youdoyoutoday · 16/11/2021 14:22

You're going to fuck your kids up more by sticking around in this exceptionally unhealthy environment. They need to see you happy and that's not going to happen whilst you are living like this.

CanIPleaseHaveOne · 17/11/2021 02:05

@Cotscats

Looking for some help unravelling my feelings. There is no one in real life I would want to admit this to. Family and friends think we're happily married and my husband is great.

Our marriage is in a bad state. We haven't had sex since conceiving our youngest (now 7 years old). Sex life was ok when dating. After our first child arrived (now 12) things went downhill. He's not very interested - used to watch a lot of porn and I clearly don't really turn him on.

That's one issue. The other is he does not/will not talk to me. If I start a conversation it's like a chore for him to join in. It's an open joke - he'll tolerate me and listen to me ramble on but it's like he's doing me a favour. He's not interested in talking about anything with me really - not the kids, not our future plans ... he prefers me to sort it all out then inform him. An example is choosing schools for the children; he will leave it to me to book open days, visit, look around, make the applications. It's like this with most things in our life - booking a holiday, buying a garden shed or a car - all research and arrangements down to me.

Lastly I recently went from part time to full time work and he will not do anything additional to share the load now I have less hours in the day. We talked about this before I accepted the full time job and he assured me he would share the load. Do Friday school run for example. He doesn't. I am so frustrated and angry that I blew up a couple of weeks ago and he refuses to talk to me about it because I'm so angry.

This is what happens every time I try to talk to him about an issue in our relationship. I go to him, talk calmly and reasonably about the issue. He immediately goes on the defensive and starts talking in a booming voice that drowns me out. I ask him to quieten down so the children don't hear. He doesn't. Then I start to feel angry and frustrated. I'll either shout or cry - and that's his cue. He storms off. Sometimes leaves the house. More often goes to another room and sulks. If I follow him he gets angrier and shouts. Says he can't talk to me because all I do is shout and put him down. But I don't - I start off trying to talk but then he refuses to talk and booms over me to shut me up then I feel frustrated. It's as though he has this perfect formula to stop us ever communicating. I hate it. I can't stand being around him any longer. Today I just wanted to give up. I can't live like this anymore. I want to feel happy.

I take it out on the children. I'm short with them, impatient, unsmiling. The opposite of who I am and the parent I want to be. Why am I taking it out on them and not him? I can't think straight anymore and feel so hopeless about the future.

How are you doing @Cotscats
Temple29 · 17/11/2021 02:28

How tough for you OP. I think you should either consider marriage counselling or ending the marriage. If your DC and you are all happier during the week there’s something really wrong.

Personally I grew up in a household like that and it was awful. When I think of my childhood I can only think of the arguments between my parents and days of nobody talking. They split when I was an adult and I never understood why they didn’t do it sooner.

motherhen2014 · 22/08/2022 15:14

AIBU to find family holidays unbelievably stressful and they seem to highlight problems in my marriage….

So,I booked 13 nights in puglia for me, husband and boys, 8&11. I love travelling and we haven’t been able to do anything for almost 4 years, firstly due to my parents being poorly and then passing away, I cared for them and then covid hit so i have been extra excited to start living and appreciating life again.

so for this trip, I researched booked absolutely everything and yet DH still picked holes and complained (that the car in the car hire wasn’t right and the villa in the middle of nowhere)
When I politely suggest he might then take more of an interest in helping to research book and pay for holidays he simply says he doesn’t have any free time. He works full time and I work 3 long days a week and the other two consist of childcare/admin and housework. He thinks I have loads of ‘free time’ despite me arguing otherwise.
when we eventually get away he never seems to want to do anything - i wanted to explore and drive to nearby towns etc and he just doesn’t seem interested.
our boys are lovely but very lively and won’t sit and read and always want to be doing something. I fought not to take screens on holiday as I felt we all needed a digital detox- and I notice their behaviour improves when they’re not on them.
i feel exhausted already and sad that it’s like this (me wanting to explore as a family and he doesn’t seem fussed)
i feel like we are so incompatible in this area that it spells disaster for when we’re older and the kids have moved on, he won’t want to do anything at all!

i have tried talking to him calmly and explaining how important it is to me but he always goes on the defensive and it ends in a row. He always thinks he’s right and never apologises so no progress is ever made!

After losing my folks(and I have no other family left) I’m conscious not to waste whatever time I have left (I’m only 43) but equally maybe I’m overreacting that this is a deal breaker element to the marriage. Essentially I’m always up for compromise and meeting in the middle and his attitude is that it’s his way that overrules.

All comments welcome, do any of you really truly enjoy family breaks? Does your DH get on your tits? Or am I the problem?!

phishy · 22/08/2022 15:49

@motherhen2014 you're not overreacting, it sounds miserable. If he's like this on holiday, how much worse must it be in day to day life?

You would be better off starting a new thread in Relationships

Go to www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships and click 'Start New Thread'.

You will get many more responses, as currently you have posted on a very old post and people won't engage with it.

motherhen2014 · 22/08/2022 17:42

Thanks @phishy I’m not great with technology 😂 have done as you suggested. Thank you x

M0ON · 22/11/2023 20:40

This sounds exactly like my partner and I, he is now in the process of being diagnosed with NPD. (Covert type).

This is what they do, they bait and get us to react and then play victim. And they use the silent treatment.

curaçao · 22/11/2023 21:54

The thing that screams from your post is your inability to communicate with one another. I think it is worth a shot at some counselling to try and address this.

TimeForTeaAndG · 22/11/2023 21:58

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Zombie thread

OntarioMom · 18/09/2024 13:11

This post is old, and likely no one will see this, but I was wonder if the OP had any updates. Did it get better, did it get worse, did you leave or did you stay? I need encouragement, this is my story as well and I'm so lost.

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