Alice Evans on Lorraine

[Creamcrackersandricecakes]

This poor woman is clearly in the middle of the most horrendous breakdown - who the fuck thought this interview was a good idea?

Maybe she should think for a moment as to how her kids feel about her public venting. She's the adult she needs to start acting like it even if her heart is breaking and she just wants to scream and smash stuff. At some point she needs to move on.

Also, no one knows what actually happened in their marriage except for them, so I'm puzzled as to how people who've never met either party can be so ferociously picking sides.

@Derbee

We’ve got a whole thread about how undignified it is for her to speak about it, and God forbid be angry and upset that her husband of 20 years is a disgusting and pathetic cliche.

Where’s the thread calling him out for posting a picture of him and his mistress saying “thanks for making me smile again”? I’m proud of her for not putting up and shutting up, and I think she came across really well. She’s heartbroken and he’s being a nasty fucker in their divorce, and good for her for refusing to be silenced

She liked and laughed at a post suggesting she seriously injure him.

She insults his family online.

She says it doesn’t matter that she’s leaking her daughter’s pain to the press because ‘they’ll forget in 15 years’ (will they?)

She called a female colleague of Ioan’s fat because she liked Ioan’s post

What would you say if a man did these things? Particularly the first point?

I think one slightly passive aggressive comment in over a year of silence from him is pretty good going really. I mean how many of us would have remained as silent given some of the things she’s done as detailed by @Glassofshloer?

Everyone supporting Alice is all ‘oh we don’t know what happened in their marriage’ while pushing the narrative that Ioan cheated (which we don’t know) & that he is freezing her out (which we don’t know)

Meanwhile we discuss things Alice has said & done out in the open, so actual facts, and they’re all ‘oh but that’s because she’s unhappy’

Ridiculous

@ShaneTheThird

Why shouldn't she talk openly about this?

Absolutely

@Glassofshloer

I tend to agree with this. Systemically, dignified silence just enables men to keep discarding us as we age.

Going public isn’t going to stop them leaving.

I agree keeping a ‘dignified silence’ feels like letting them ‘get away with it’ to a certain extent.

But it usually works out in the woman’s favour, in the court of public opinion - look at Vanessa Paradis etc.

Either way if your husband wanted to leave you for as younger woman, would you want him any more?

Agree, it might feel like letting them awaybwith unbearable cruelty but advertising your pain doesnt affect their career or status but definitely lowers the wife's status.

If you can, act like you dont care.

I felt sorry for Alice as she was opening her heart out to a woman who was pretending she cared.

@Derbee

We’ve got a whole thread about how undignified it is for her to speak about it, and God forbid be angry and upset that her husband of 20 years is a disgusting and pathetic cliche.

Where’s the thread calling him out for posting a picture of him and his mistress saying “thanks for making me smile again”? I’m proud of her for not putting up and shutting up, and I think she came across really well. She’s heartbroken and he’s being a nasty fucker in their divorce, and good for her for refusing to be silenced

In the context of the information we have though, what has he actually done wrong in posting that picture? Even the caption is just a minor dig in comparison to what Alice has been saying about him constantly on every available platform for months.

He is not with Alice, he filed for divorce months ago and has made it clear (from what Alice has shared) that he has no intention of reconciling with her.

I think she only accused him of an affair once she realised he was in this new relationship? Which may or may not be true, but Alice clearly doesn't actually even know herself whether it is, she just has her suspicions because he worked with this woman while they were together. Bianca is his 'mistress' in name only as he is not in a relationship with his wife anymore.

It is difficult to judge as obviously we don't know the truth about the split, but I honestly can't see how him posting that photo is worse than her ongoing public diatribe. AND it was only posted recently so it has been months of no response at all from his side.

What was that all about? I don’t see what today was gaining. Also she lied “I received a notification that I was no longer blocked on IG” - no you didn’t, that doesn’t happen!

@Derbee

We’ve got a whole thread about how undignified it is for her to speak about it, and God forbid be angry and upset that her husband of 20 years is a disgusting and pathetic cliche.

Where’s the thread calling him out for posting a picture of him and his mistress saying “thanks for making me smile again”? I’m proud of her for not putting up and shutting up, and I think she came across really well. She’s heartbroken and he’s being a nasty fucker in their divorce, and good for her for refusing to be silenced

How is he being a nasty fucker in the divorce? So he's posted one photo of his new girlfriend. Compare that to Alice's 100's of tweet talking about Ioan's cosmetic surgery, saying she hopes their daughter doesn't get his nose, calling Ioan's co-stars fat and hinting at all sorts of other dubious stuff, plus there's no proof at the minute that they were even having an affair, apart from Alice's ramblings.

He won't talk to her directly and I don't blame him. Everything he says ends up on Twitter to be picked apart by her minions and twisted by Alice. If I was him, I'd be getting a restraining order.

LittleMysSister I think we may have to agree to disagree on this because I think she has been brave! AE has admitted herself that she felt she was losing her mind so I don't think she would dispute the "unhinged" accusation although I would argue her feeling that way is more than understandable in the alleged circumstances.

As someone who looked after the DC while my DH travelled all the time, and whose career took a hit in the process, I feel nothing but sympathy for her. Doubly so if she was looking after DC virtually alone during the pandemic.

Again I realise this is her side of the narrative and that he has publicly said very little.

As for what he has done wrong posting that picture...come on...talk about rubbing salt in to the wounds! "Thank you for making me smile again" or something similar to that ..pass the sick bucket .it's calculated imho to be deliberately disrespectful to a twenty year marriage.

It was apparently his wife's job to make him smile and she failed miserably on that score. Why? Because she became older, put on weight? Stayed at home and worked pt while he travelled for his more glamorous career?

And yes I am projecting

@Gohugatree

See, I don't get that vibe about Ioan Gruffud's at all. They've been separated for quite a while. Some of the stuff she's been posting on social media is very nasty. She's admitted to screaming at Ioan Gruffud's when he's been on face time with his daughters, refused to let him have access time with them, been incredibly derogatory about people - referring to IG's girlfriend as a 'ho' , and his mother as a 'narc' and using her children as an emotional crutch.

And, of course, we only have her version of events (which have changed several times). She has been deleting things she said on social media.

There are certainly many men in the media spotlight who haven't behaved well - discarding long term partners with whom they have families, for much younger women. And yes, women should be able to be open about their sense of loss and betrayal. But what Alice Evans is doing is off the scale. It will be harming her children, she is harming their relationship with their father and probably with herself. IG is allowed to leave his wife. Perhaps the photo of him with a new girlfriend was posted because the press had got hold of the story.

AE is controlling the narrative to a certain extent, portraying herself as the wronged party, but she is burning bridges all over the place, and ultimately, she will be the one who suffers the most from her behaviour.

Neither do I. He's been quiet for months and she's posted a horrendous amount of hate. I know we only know one side but she posted an old picture of them and then posted an apology to the new gf....wtf! Her rants are off the scale and then she goes onto the TV to go through it all again? She's just not helping herself at all!

@1forAll74 for the $$$

How is he being a nasty fucker in the divorce? So he's posted one photo of his new girlfriend. Compare that to Alice's 100's of tweet talking about Ioan's cosmetic surgery, saying she hopes their daughter doesn't get his nose, calling Ioan's co-stars fat and hinting at all sorts of other dubious stuff, plus there's no proof at the minute that they were even having an affair, apart from Alice's ramblings.

He won't talk to her directly and I don't blame him. Everything he says ends up on Twitter to be picked apart by her minions and twisted by Alice. If I was him, I'd be getting a restraining order.

👏🏼 This.

@Glassofshloer

Everyone supporting Alice is all ‘oh we don’t know what happened in their marriage’ while pushing the narrative that Ioan cheated (which we don’t know) & that he is freezing her out (which we don’t know)

Meanwhile we discuss things Alice has said & done out in the open, so actual facts, and they’re all ‘oh but that’s because she’s unhappy’

Ridiculous

This is a good point but this sort of thing doesn't happen in a vacuum, hence "the narrative" otherwise known as "the script" which can be seen played out on the relationships board here on Mumsnet in post after post. It is a very real "thing".

Of course we don't know for sure that this applies to the case of AE but we support women on the relationships board on here, and we only hear their side of the story too, so what is so different about taking AE's word and supporting her?

@Muddybanks women on here wouldn’t get support if they laughed about injuring their ex, said their kids feelings don’t matter as ‘they’ll forget in 15 years’ and called their ex husband’s colleague fat just because the colleague likes the ex’s Instagram post at least, I like to think they would… perhaps this thread proves me wrong.

[quote Glassofshloer]@Muddybanks women on here wouldn’t get support if they laughed about injuring their ex, said their kids feelings don’t matter as ‘they’ll forget in 15 years’ and called their ex husband’s colleague fat just because the colleague likes the ex’s Instagram post at least, I like to think they would… perhaps this thread proves me wrong.[/quote]
I'm afraid I only saw her original response to the Instagram photo and nothing else, I know she has a robust sense of humour though which doesn't really lend itself to Twitter.

If a friend of mine was posting daily Facebook statuses about their ex a year on, and ringing up his boss to try and damage his reputation at work by airing out their personal lives, I'd tell them they needed to get a grip. What kind of person turns their divorce into a competition for public sympathy? The fact is this is all a big news story because she has actively made it one.

She openly admitted that her kids were facetiming their father and she shouted at him over the call. That's disgusting behaviour. She trawls gossip sites for negative comments about herself then asks her fans to try and find out who they are from. She's not well.

I can't imagine what this poor woman is going through. It's a heady combination of betrayal and loneliness during the pandemic. All played out in the public eye. That's some messed up bingo she's got going on there. I personally think she's going to be very strong in herself when she comes through this.

@Muddybanks

LittleMysSister I think we may have to agree to disagree on this because I think she has been brave! AE has admitted herself that she felt she was losing her mind so I don't think she would dispute the "unhinged" accusation although I would argue her feeling that way is more than understandable in the alleged circumstances.

As someone who looked after the DC while my DH travelled all the time, and whose career took a hit in the process, I feel nothing but sympathy for her. Doubly so if she was looking after DC virtually alone during the pandemic.

Again I realise this is her side of the narrative and that he has publicly said very little.

As for what he has done wrong posting that picture...come on...talk about rubbing salt in to the wounds! "Thank you for making me smile again" or something similar to that ..pass the sick bucket .it's calculated imho to be deliberately disrespectful to a twenty year marriage.

It was apparently his wife's job to make him smile and she failed miserably on that score. Why? Because she became older, put on weight? Stayed at home and worked pt while he travelled for his more glamorous career?

And yes I am projecting

You have expressed it well.

It was her job to make him smile? How about his job to keep an intact family for his children?

@ThackeryBinks

I can't imagine what this poor woman is going through. It's a heady combination of betrayal and loneliness during the pandemic. All played out in the public eye. That's some messed up bingo she's got going on there. I personally think she's going to be very strong in herself when she comes through this.

A divorce. She’s going though a divorce. A lot of people can ‘imagine’ that because they’ve been through it. It isn’t uniquely horrifying.

Alice was behaving badly before the marriage came to an end.
The constant insta, that IG was clearly uncomfortable with. I used to watch her Stories and it would be so, so clear he didn't want to be on camera, shared with the public. Alice even admitted this (with a giggle) a good few times. Now, if I posted here saying that my DH keeps sharing videos of me on his social media even though I've made clear how uncomfortable I am with it, I reckon we all know what reaction I'd get.
IG deserves happiness.
I feel terribly for those children, and all the ways Alice is using them in this. She seems desperately unstable and I do hope she gets the help she needs.

That’s a really concerning interview, more than a year later and she still can’t even talk about it without breaking down,

She clearly doesn’t know though if it was an affair, she used the words “pretty sure” , so no proof no evidence, just a suspicion, but the marriage was basically over four months before they split, at least, from what she said, so that’s welll over a year now.

I also think she’s on dodgey ground with her Insinuations of an affair, yes technically she’s still married, so technically his partner is a mistress, but they are legally seperated.

I think she needs help. She’s really not coping at all.

She tweeted In the middle of the night about his new partner,

@ThackeryBinks

I can't imagine what this poor woman is going through. It's a heady combination of betrayal and loneliness during the pandemic. All played out in the public eye. That's some messed up bingo she's got going on there. I personally think she's going to be very strong in herself when she comes through this.

It’s only being played out in th public eye because she’s putting it there. And it’s a divorce, they split he’s started a new relationship. You’re acting like she’s the first person ever to have a relationship end.