To despise being called ‘cis’?

[Ostryga]

I’m not ‘cis’. I’m not ‘cisgendered’. I’m literally a woman. I’ve just read a guardian article that calls women seeking IVF cisgendered.

Why????

Me too!

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/07/married-lesbian-couple-launch-discrimination-action-against-nhs

It was this article btw. A landmark test case about women and they still use cisgendered. Wtf!! Why??

Yanbu. I don't know why everyone bends backwards not to not offend and then go on to offend a huge percentage of women.

What fucks me of is I am a woman. A woman, who like many women, doesn’t neatly fit into the daft ‘cis ’ stereotype of a woman. I’m still a bloody woman though, 100% unquestionably so.
My interests and dress, if we are making a binary choice, often fit better the ‘male’ stereotypes out there. I’m not male in anyway though. I am a variety of woman. I object though being linked to a narrow and often vapid view of what a woman must be like.

Yes, I agree. I really fundamentally disagree being labelled as the opposite to a trans person. There is a word that means “not trans woman”. That word is “woman”.

Funny how everyone is asked to respect pronouns / TWAW but the same respect isn’t given to stopping using the word cis

I agree, I find it offensive too. If we're looking for things to be offended about, that's right up there!

I feel torn. I want to be called a woman. I identify as a woman and I don’t like that the words used to describe my gender identity are being changed.

And.

Having talked with and heard from people who are non-binary, trans etc, I can see how hard it is to be ‘othered’ and assumptions being made that don’t fit for you and make you feel marginalised.

I don’t know what the answer is really. I want the world to be a respectful and inclusive place and I don’t want the identity I’ve always had messed with.

I didn’t even know cis referred to me. I don’t even know what it means.

YANBU. It’s offensive nonsense designed to “other” us from our own sex class.

It also implies we embrace our “gender identity” (there’s no such thing) because we’re not trans. It’s crap, and insulting.

If anyone uses it about you without your permission turn the tables: accuse them of “misgendering” you , and tell them gender identity is not a philosophical belief you subscribe to.

I also find it quite offensive. I'm not sure why, if a trans-woman or man wants to be known as that, fine, but don't change our terminology, too.

There's woman and transwoman. Cis is not required.

@Tal45

There's woman and transwoman. Cis is not required.

With bells on.

It's simple. Transwomen are women. It's their title now. We have to be something else. The men have spoken. Know your place!

I'm with you OP. I correct anyone who tries to refer me (or any other woman) using that term.

There's a whole topic available for this kind of stuff.

Nope I hate it and will refuse to acknowledge anyone who addresses me as such or attempts to define me in that way.

I am a woman. It's a clearly understood term requiring no modification.

I'll take "lady" as an alternative although I think that's fairly inaccurate in my case.

@Suspiciousmind20

I feel torn. I want to be called a woman. I identify as a woman and I don’t like that the words used to describe my gender identity are being changed.

And.

Having talked with and heard from people who are non-binary, trans etc, I can see how hard it is to be ‘othered’ and assumptions being made that don’t fit for you and make you feel marginalised.

I don’t know what the answer is really. I want the world to be a respectful and inclusive place and I don’t want the identity I’ve always had messed with.

I didn’t even know cis referred to me. I don’t even know what it means.

How does the word cis make trans people feel less marginalised?

Gender identity is an abstract construct. It's a theory. It's not a scientific fact.

I'm not cis. I have a vagina therefore I am female. That IS scientific fact.

Yup another non cis woman here my woke as hell dd tried calling me cis I rejected it long story short she accepted it because I pointed out if I cannot define everyone else in a way that they reject then everyone else cannot and should not try to define me against my wishes

It's an identity change without your consent, that's why it's offensive

100 million per cent YANBU. It rankles me something awful.

And don't even get me STARTED on people who have a twitter bio saying 'chocolate loving wine-drinking mum of 3, who is loving life. she/her.'

SHE fucking HER makes my blood boil.

Agree. I am a woman and refuse the term cis.

I agree - can't stand it and I won't ever use that term for myself or another woman.

You can be trans, I'm happy if you are happy... but if you want to change how you're identified you shouldn't also need to alter what others choose to identify as. It's disrespectful

On another note I'm not a 'birthing person' or a 'person who menstruates' either

I find being called cis incredibly offensive, It enrages me and I’m not 100% sure why yet.

It’s just so unnecessary. The only word needed for my sex is woman. I’m happy to call anyone whatever they want or need. But why am I suddenly gaining a new term for my sex without my consent 😳

Someone asked me why I was still 'chest feeding' I wiped the floor with them! Said I was 'BREASTFEEDING' and my daughter has only just turned one!

@Frenchfancy

Yanbu. I don't know why everyone bends backwards not to not offend and then go on to offend a huge percentage of women.

This, this, this this this this THIS!!!!!!

But the use in this article is to make it clear that they are talking about heterosexual couples encompassing a man & a woman that were born as such.

It’s a way of differentiating between the gay / single women named in the law suit, and the people who they say get a better deal from the CCG (the hetero ‘cis’ couple).

There’s a good reason for the use of the term cis in this case, so yeah, YABU.