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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To be upset that my mum is buying art off someone like this?

239 replies

ManchesterRain · 29/10/2021 08:50

I am a hobby artist but I do cheap commissions for people too. Basically I enjoy doing it and sometimes make a few quid doing it too. My cousin also dabbles with art but his work is digital, mine is traditional.

Anyway I went to my mums yesterday and she said she had something to show me … she presented a digital portrait of my son which she had paid my cousin to do. I said it was lovely (which it was) but I was secretly a bit hurt that she’s never asked me to create something for her. Anyway she then said “why don’t you ask him to do one for you too??” So I reminded her that I do my own art work 🙄 and her reply is the sting of the tail …

“Yes but you could get a proper one done! They’re only £50 … do you want me to get you one for Christmas?”

I feel really hurt by this! There are people all over Britain with my art in frames on their wall so I know I’m not terrible at what I do!!

AIBU to think she is being really thoughtless?

OP posts:
oakleaffy · 29/10/2021 12:32

@DaisyDozyDee

She was rude and/or thoughtless. Saying you don’t want anyone else’s artwork because you make your own art is an unusual viewpoint though. Do you feel that way about all other artists or just your cousin?
I agree- I love other people’s etchings /artwork and have bought several.
MrsLargeEmbodied · 29/10/2021 12:33

what is digital art?

oakleaffy · 29/10/2021 12:38

@MrsLargeEmbodied

what is digital art?
Stuff created with a computer- often with Adobe &c I thought someone was doing fabulous watercolours of dogs- but it was just an “App” Very effective though.
ThumbWitchesAbroad · 29/10/2021 12:40

Ouch!
That was either deliberately hurtful of her, or very thoughtless! Regardless of whether she likes your style of art or not, she must KNOW that's your work field, and not be so fucking rude!!

"A proper one" - fuck offfff!

WalkingOnTheCracks · 29/10/2021 12:40

i honestly cant see how someone pissing about on a pc making images is proper art , proper art is someone with actual talent painting , but there we go !!

I honestly can't see how someone pissing about on mn criticising something of which they're totally ignorant is proper comment. Proper comment is someone with actual informed views articulating them, but there we go....

LynetteScavo · 29/10/2021 12:41

@MrsLargeEmbodied

what is digital art?
Digital art is created using technology. The OP, I think, crates are with paint and paper which is more traditional.

There are people creating really great digital art these days, and it's all a matter of taste.

Scarlettpixie · 29/10/2021 12:42

Why didn’t you just say, ‘its fine if you prefer his style but why do you think his is proper art and mine isn’t?’

thisplaceisweird · 29/10/2021 12:50

He apparently works really hard (well yes, but so do I!

Another trope of the 60-80 year old mother I think. Our husbands are so good for looking after our kids and doing the washing up, oh and they work so hard and are so successful aren't they! Doesn't matter how many promotions I get or that I look after the kids 80% of the time.

TeaStory · 29/10/2021 12:52

FFS digital art isn’t just “pissing about on a PC” or manipulating photos in Adobe. The images are drawn using a drawing tablet or similar and require a lot of skill. Here are some examples: www.deviantart.com/topic/digital-art

OP, I’d be hurt by what your mum said too. It could just be a parent thing - my husband and I have very professional jobs but my parents and in-laws seem to think what we do isn’t “real”. However, please don’t denigrate your own work with words like “cheap” and “dabble” - you are an artist, please big up your awesome self!

ChargingBuck · 29/10/2021 12:53

I feel really hurt by this! There are people all over Britain with my art in frames on their wall so I know I’m not terrible at what I do!!

Of course you are hurt!

Quite possibly, your DM has fallen into that trap of "oh it's just my kid's work, it can't be much of merit" which too many do.

BUT - this usually doesn't come from actually believing their DC are useless: it's a more complicated mixture of low self-worth coupled with poor object separation. Because they see their DC predominantly as an extension of themselves, & don't value themselves, therefore ...

Of course her comment stung. It was thoughtless, hurtful & thick.
Not saying your DM herself is any of those things! - but if she has some of the above going on, that might help you understand where the comment may be coming from.

However - this is about your feelings, not your mother's! & in your position, that comment would sting for a long time. It's obviously not an isolated incident, so you are likely feeling all the compounded misery of "death by a thousand cuts", which makes this latest one hard to distance yourself from.

Try this, initially as a thought experiment:

I feel really hurt by this! There are people all over Britain with my art in frames on their wall so I know I’m not terrible at what I do!!

Now imagine being with your mum, & saying:
"You know when you said I could get a "proper" DC portrait from cousin?
I felt really hurt by this! There are people all over Britain with my art in frames on their wall so I know I’m not terrible at what I do!!"

Then imagine where that opening remark might take a conversation.
"Mum, I get personal preference, & that's fine, but why is it your knee-jerk response that Cousin's portraits are "proper", but your own daughter's are not?"

Only you know your DM, so whether this is worth a try or not.
And as you felt it keenly, but didn't say it aloud in the moment, I'm guessing there are ...dynamics ... at play which constrained you.

But mull the above over, & decide whether you want to tell your mum what you told us. And whether it's enough to get it off your chest with a vent here, or whether you want to endure the discomfort of telling your mum how her denigration stings you, & asking her why she feels Cousin has the right to be viewed as a "proper" hobby artist while her own DD does not.

Flowers
ChargingBuck · 29/10/2021 12:56

@Sirzy

Surely as an artist you realise that everyone has different tastes?
Not the issue.

I dislike the work of many famous & talented artists.
That doesn't mean they are not "proper" artists.

ChargingBuck · 29/10/2021 12:57

@MaskingForIt

But he’s a man, so his art is “proper”. You’re just a little woman with a little hobby.
OMG! - yes, could well be this too!
ChargingBuck · 29/10/2021 12:58

btw that is a cracking username @MaskingForIt :)

OK, derail over wink]

M0rT · 29/10/2021 12:58

We deal with this type of tactlessness with relentless mocking in my family.
So at every opportunity I'd be asking my DM if she was going out for a proper dinner, talking about how my friends DM was a proper mother etc etc.

mountbattenbergcake · 29/10/2021 13:02

Very bitchy of her of her to say his is proper, and probably a dig at you.

Don't give her any of your art.

mountbattenbergcake · 29/10/2021 13:03

So many people ignoring the point here, which is that it's rude to say OP's art is not 'proper'.

I hate most modern art but wouldn't tell a random artist their art isn't proper, let alone my own daughter!

ScarlettSunset · 29/10/2021 13:05

I think she's exceptionally rude and thoughtless. I've had a similar experience - I did a lot of cake making and decorating, not professionally as my job, but I did have loads of people coming to me for birthday cakes and wedding cakes. My aunt however decided to ask me if I would pay the local (crap) bakery to make a cake for another family members birthday. She never did understand why I was upset by that (and no I didn't pay for the cake).
I'm pleased for you though that many people across the country are able to enjoy your art. You should rightly feel proud of that.

Shinyflecks · 29/10/2021 13:07

I’m an artist. Get better I would say, start taking it and yourself more seriously. Then others will too.
You call yourself a hobby artist. Start thinking bigger… hth

Bellyups · 29/10/2021 13:19

I’d find it hurtful too @ManchesterRain. All these people asking ‘don’t you know art is submissive?’ are massively missing the very obvious point here.
HmmHmmHmmHmm

It was a thoughtless, tactless thing for your mother to say. Personally I would probably have said something to her at the time. You are perfectly within your rights to feel hurt by her comment.

Unsure1983 · 29/10/2021 13:24

That's fucking awful.

3beesinmybonnet · 29/10/2021 13:32

I'm an artist and have sold paintings. I've also had snotty hurtful comments off both my parents.
Your DM sounds jealous of your talent to me and I think her comments were designed to belittle and hurt you. I would not discuss it with her as then she ll know she's got to you and she'll do it again.
Just smile sweetly while secretly feeling sorry for her for being so insecure she's jealous of her own DD.

DameFanny · 29/10/2021 13:38

OP her response actually made me lol. You need to see that it's not you, it's her. My mother's a bit the same - she's frankly bewildered that a couple of local institutions have asked for things of mine to display, but she tries to be polite about it all. Just makes me laugh Grin

mustlovegin · 29/10/2021 13:52

Your mum was out of order OP

Bellyups · 29/10/2021 14:13

*subjective not submissive. Autofail

Lotusmonster · 29/10/2021 14:41

Gift her a still life of the houseplant “Mother-In-Laws tongue” as an Xmas gift

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