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to smirk about Ulrika Johnson's predicament

485 replies

nametaken · 11/12/2007 13:00

OK I probably am being horrible but I couldn't help but laugh hearing that people are calling Ulrika Johnson 4 X 4 - aparently it has really upset her.

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PaulaYatesbiggestfan · 13/12/2007 11:42

life is for living anyway - she is not a 'role model' she is a person

WideWebWitch · 13/12/2007 11:43

Also, I don't think anyone remotely thinks her children are unhappy or not cared for, do they? I doubt it very much, I think her eldest is the same age as my ds. So actually, she's probably got 2 at school, one about to go and a baby on the way. Nice gaps if you ask me. I hope all the fathers are paying child maintenance.

walkinginawinterBundleland · 13/12/2007 11:45

glad to see seasonal goodwill abounds.

agree with www & others who are a little less judgmental

Heifer · 13/12/2007 11:52

Just only read this thread (am in the middle of moving house and waiting for the keys)..

and

I laughed... right of wrong, I find it funny...

Monkeytrousers · 14/12/2007 21:32

Exactly WWW!

SpacecadetLovesChristmas · 14/12/2007 21:36

no body says anything when men get lots of different women pregnant..I feel sorry for her to be honest..not her fault that shes hooked up with some gits

Monkeytrousers · 15/12/2007 00:44

Exactly SC. That deserves to be the last word, but I fear it won't be

KITTYmaspudding · 15/12/2007 08:30

Spacecadet. Of course it's 'her fault'. She has repeatedly chosen her partners badly and has chosen to have children with them.
To make that mistake as often as she has shows she's a foolish woman indeed.
Maybe she doesn't care though, inthat case any 4x4 comments would not bother her.

LittleSleighBellasRinging · 15/12/2007 09:49

"She has repeatedly chosen her partners badly"

And of course, some of us have perfect judgement and only choose our partners wisely. Cast the first stone Kitty, you're obviously perfect.

KITTYmaspudding · 15/12/2007 13:12

Don't be so daft sleighbells.

She has crap judgement.

It's got absolutely NOTHING to do with my situation has it ??
I am certainly NOT anywhere near perfect and I am VERY hard on myself.
It does not change the fact that UJ ,imo, has not chosen wisely nor learnt from past mistakes.

UniversallyChallenged · 15/12/2007 13:44

and unless i am mistaken Kitty hasnt been paid heaps to be on the latest sleb mag saying about her life choices. If UJ doesnt want to allow people to voice their opinions on her situation then she should keep quiet.

No such thing as a free dinner

Elizabetth · 15/12/2007 13:55

So it's lucky us she sells her stories to celeb mags so we can all be sexist about her to our heart's content.

If people don't like her they could always ignore her, but that's not quite so much fun as slagging a woman off for her sex life.

Feminism seems to have passed a lot of women by.

Heathcliffscathy · 15/12/2007 14:03

not only unreasonable but leaves a very bad taste in the mouth. double standards, sexist, and woman hating are words that spring to mind. and of course you can be a woman and hate women.

Lizzylou · 15/12/2007 14:07

I think thats awful, what about if her eldest children are being regaled with that "joke" at school?
I'm no fan of Ulrika but she doesn't deserve to be slated for her mistakes.
Agree it is all very sexist.

KITTYmaspudding · 15/12/2007 14:54

Heavens I am no feminist. I'm no walk over either.
However, to my mind anyone who puts themselves 'out there" is fair game, male or female. I'll quite happily take pot shots all day long.

UC. you've got me thinking

Elizabetth · 15/12/2007 15:37

Kitty, it's obvious that the women who uphold the sexual double standard and slag off other women in that manner aren't feminists. That's what we're all saying.

The stupid thing is that any woman can be the target of this kind of pure woman/fallen woman bullshit, so why some women join in with it so enthusiastically is beyond me. Women supporting sexism is like turkeys voting for Christmas. Not very wise.

KITTYmaspudding · 15/12/2007 15:59

Elizabeth. I think they way I look at this situation is that I am having a pop at her choices because they are not great and she choses to exploit them for money.
It's true that I might not be so interested in criticizing a male selb for the same reason, I would find other things no doubt.
I don't think it's healthy to say that a woman shouldn't criticize another woman and that we should all belong to the sisterhood so to speak.

I will not stick up for her because we are both women.

Elizabetth · 15/12/2007 16:04

I didn't say that you shouldn't criticise another woman Kitty. After all I am criticising other women right on this thread. What I said was that it seems a bit mad for women to be sexist about other women.

TinyTimLivesinVictorianSqualor · 15/12/2007 16:11

Oh Kitty, hush now, some may start to think you're jealous.........

LittleSleighBellasRinging · 15/12/2007 17:02

So you wouldn't criticise a male sleb for the same sort of reasons?

No, you're not a feminist, are you. [Rolls eyes and bashes head on keyboard. Why do I keep bothering to come back to this stupid thread?]

LittleSleighBellasRinging · 15/12/2007 17:02

I think it's quite good to make money out of your bad choices actually. Wish I could out of mine.

KITTYmaspudding · 15/12/2007 18:52

Tinytim only of her money perhaps not of her shite life situation, she can keep that with bells on!!!!

Heathcliffscathy · 15/12/2007 18:53

agree with elizabethh

Heathcliffscathy · 15/12/2007 18:55

pmsl that you state that you wouldn't criticise a male sleb in same way....and you don't get the sexism.

bookofchristmascarolsmum · 15/12/2007 18:57

UJ did write her autobiography which did list many of her past loves. So she can't really complain at being called 4x4 now..... although I'm sure that her children have heard worse .

I'm not sure that I could keep having children with new partners though after the first couple of relationshps crumbled....