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to smirk about Ulrika Johnson's predicament

485 replies

nametaken · 11/12/2007 13:00

OK I probably am being horrible but I couldn't help but laugh hearing that people are calling Ulrika Johnson 4 X 4 - aparently it has really upset her.

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UniversallyChallenged · 19/12/2007 11:57

oh well who needs reasoned debate when we have ruty's eloquant input

that's us sorted then, cheers ruty!

ruty · 19/12/2007 12:04

Oh the word bollocks can be quite eloquent at times. Especially when people are pretending to be victimized, when other people have only calmy reasoned their own point of view.

Scotia · 19/12/2007 12:08

www, I disagree that she has never hurt anyone. She has had at leas two affairs, i which people got hurt - I hasten to add that of course she did not have the affairs on her own (just in case anyone misunderstands again). That is the only point I have made on this thread, nothing to do with bullying (which another poster inferred in her reply to me) or to do with her children. My own children have different fathers.

UniversallyChallenged · 19/12/2007 12:29

Do you mean UJ ruty? I agree with you sometimes she has appeared to pretend to be victimised when others have calmly stated their own point of view.

Welcome to my sde

KITTYmaspudding · 19/12/2007 14:05

Paula, I find you ever so smug and self righteous, very 'holier than thou'.
You are probably not like this in RL, well I hoe not but on this thread you are somewhat 'priggish', no offence intended ( no doubt you will take some nevertheless) but you come across like that to me.

KITTYmaspudding · 19/12/2007 14:08

Of course they are RUTY that's the whole point of a debate, sadly it's HOW it's done that is sh*t.
Just have a look at how the minority here have been lambasted.
Usual stuff for MN but a load of hypocritical rubbish.

LittleSleighBellasRinging · 19/12/2007 14:52

pmsl at calling someone priggish and then claiming no offence is intended.

You are a card, Kitty, really you are.

melinda · 19/12/2007 15:04

Yeah, nobody would have ever known about her pregnancy if she hadn't done an interview, would they?

joedar · 19/12/2007 15:10

I think its quiet funny too!! Its only stating a fact though!!

I personally am a 4 x 1 buts thats not to say I would never have been a 4 x 4!

I say fair dues to her though she is doing her best. At the end of the day you have Angelina Jolie another women with 4 kid with different fathers and mothers!! and she is looked at with admiration whereas poor Ulrika is being slagged off!

What does it matter where they come from once they are loved!!

KITTYmaspudding · 19/12/2007 15:43

Indeed

Anyway, I think it's funny that she's called that.
No amount of metaphorical flailing is going to change my mind.

SantaGotStuckUpTheGreensleeve · 19/12/2007 15:44

It IS funny. If she's got a sense of humour she probably laughed too.

ScottishMummy · 19/12/2007 15:46

joined this V Late, frankly dont care how many children/fathers/metaphors with vehicles are made about ulrikka - like all celebrities she inhabits La-La-La land and unlike us will never worry about the mortgage payments or getting to supermarket after work

susiecutiemincepies · 19/12/2007 17:06

I would just like to say, for the record, I wasnt really taking any side at all. I was just not liking the general barrage that was being hurled at one person, who did have an opinion, and which was not the same as the majority....

I also did think the 4x4 comment was a witty quip, which was not, in itself being judgmental, or nasty or rude etc.. just a factual '1 liner' about the truth of her having 4 children by 4 fathers.. that in itself is not judgmental or sexist, IMO...

I also stated I had not read the rest of the interview/ article, which may well have been judgmental, and which i would no have found amusing nor would i have agreed with that.

I am currently a 1x1! and hope that will increase, to 2x1 3x1 etc.. however, i am realistic, and am more than aware that I may be misfortunate and this relationship may break down and i may indeed have more children in a different relationship, who knows what the future will hold.

I certainly would never be smug about my situation verses anyone elses. I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with any woman who has children in more than one relationship. it could happen to any of us (who have not already happened to), and statistically most likely will!

paulayatesfan thank you! my gaping hole is not so sore today, having woken up with a pillow covered in blood... again, I apologise for being an oversensitive nightmare!

PaulaYatesbiggestfan · 19/12/2007 17:50

kitty - i take offence at a barage of sexist comments that this woman has to endure on these boards

i am in no way 'priggish' but am quite amused you think so

Ulrika is tall blonde, very pretty, fabulous figure and most importantly is an educated and articulate woman

her life choices may be a little iffy but i feel that the majority of hurtful and vitriolic comments on here come from people who feel 'threatened' by her

KITTYmaspudding · 19/12/2007 17:55

Paula, glad you didn't take offence
I suppose some people might be threatened by her but I can't think of a good reason tbh.
Seems like she is/was a very unhappy woman with a string of failed relationships and an inability to sort the wheat from the chaff so to speak.
She also looks like she's had stresses in her life.
I'd hate to be in her shoes.

KITTYmaspudding · 19/12/2007 17:56

I meant offence at my comment

LittleSleighBellasRinging · 19/12/2007 20:17

Why do you say she's an unhappy woman?

I think that's wishful thinking. She seems very happy to me, she is obviously an optimist.

If you can't see why 4x4 on its own is sexist, then you're not very observant and/ or you haven't read the thread. It is sexist because it would never be used about a man as a throway quip. It just wouldn't. Nobody notices if men have kids by 24 women. It simply doesn't matter. It matters when women do and that's why it's sexist. Sorry to be so basic, but really, where is the difficulty in seeing sexism here?

susiecutiemincepies · 19/12/2007 21:06

WEll, I do not agree sleighbells ringing.
Firstly, I have stated i did not read the whole thread or the article. I think it very well could and will be used to describe a man too. It just happens it was a woman on this occasion.

I am perfectly observant, and intelligent too. I just disagree.

I'm not interested in the rest of the debate about her, I am not getting into it. I am not threatened by her, by any means. I am pleased, genuinely, for anyone who is happy and has been successful. She is a working mother who has had a shit run of relationships, and is still standing, still moving forward, appears happy and remains successful. I am just not offended by the 4x4 comment.

CliffRichardSucksEggsInHell · 19/12/2007 21:08

Yes me too! I agree with anyone on here who is from London because they are lovely!

susiecutiemincepies · 19/12/2007 21:10

hi cliff lovely to see you

noddyholder · 19/12/2007 21:11

The word predicament is very misleading as I just don't think she has or has ever claimed to have one.She is young rich lovely with 4 beautiful kids and a good career although I agree she is not tv presenter of the year there are a lot worse.

CliffRichardSucksEggsInHell · 19/12/2007 21:12

Noddy! Noddy Noddy Noddy - where u from?

CliffRichardSucksEggsInHell · 19/12/2007 21:12

susie - may I see a recent utility bill please?

noddyholder · 19/12/2007 21:22

I am from brighton why?

LittleSleighBellasRinging · 19/12/2007 21:28

OK so tell me one instance where a man has had a nickname or a quip about him that went round the media and the www, about having children within relationships, by different women? One example? I can't think of any.

Sometimes men get the piss taken out of them when they've been unfaithful, but Ulrika's children aren't the accidental result of infidelity, she was in a relationship with each of her children's fathers when she became pregnant. Sometimes they get the piss taken out of them if they have kids at 70 or when they're really old. But again, that's not Ulrika's situation. Having children by different mothers, is just not one of the occasions for taking the piss out of a man, as it is for a woman. That's why I think it's sexist. You can disagree of course, but I wish you'd post some evidence for the basis of your disagreement. I've explained quite fully why I think it's sexist, but I don't think anyone has fully explained why they think it isn't. I'm genuinely interested tbh.