Ffs my dd just had friend's license confiscated!

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17 yr dd (18 next month) went out with a couple of friends tonight. In the 2nd bar she was asked for id and handed over a friend's provisional. The real document but it's not hers. Anyway it was taken off her and the bar man refused to give it back. Even after speaking to his supervisor. Dd left but now has no Id anymore and her friend has lost her actual license. I appreciate they have both committed an offence in doing this but how does she get it back?! I tried to warn her of the dangers of doing this but she's done it several times before and of course she knows best!

@ColinTheKoala

They can still lose their job, it isn't all about prosecution

if a retailer has such a draconian policy that they will sack a person for making a mistake on something that is very subjective, then you'd be best off finding a job with a better employer.

How people look is subjective. So whether you ask for ID is subjective. The only way round it would be to ask everyone who buys age restricted goods for ID even if they are 80. Or we could have more sensible laws to start with - they don't have this nonsense in other countries. I remember being in Germany when a girl in front of me was buying cigarettes and she didn't have ID so her friend bought them.

I very much doubt a pub would sack a barman for not noticing that someone wasn't exactly the same as the photo on ID, either unless it was a boy with dark black hair and a beard using the ID of a girl with long blonde hair. People are really overegging the pudding here.

The problem is the licensee can lose his license because of this sort of mistake. Easy for you to say they are being draconian but it is serious for them. I grew up on licensed premises, my father losing his license would have left us without a home or an income.

I see where you’re coming from @ancientgran but the vast majority of people are approaching this from the other side of the bar, as it were. As someone who grew up within the industry, were you ever aware of pub owners being interested in campaigning or influencing the law in this area? It seems to me that over the years things have become stricter and stricter towards the vendors but not towards the underage would-be buyers - which is surely the opposite way to that which would be in vendors’ interests!