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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think I need to stop seeing him (red flags in bed)?

197 replies

Maria53 · 01/10/2021 18:10

Ive been seeing a guy for a few weeks and we recently slept together.

Twice during sex his mood has changed quite rapidly. The first time I moved out of a position because we'd been at a long, long time and I needed a break (and he confronted me about 'why would you do that when I'm just about to cum?'). Has facial expression changed to one of almost anger. I also had no idea he was close.

The second time, I asked him to move into a position which we'd really enjoyed previously & he refused. He said it had been a 'fluke' that he had managed it before due to the odd angle and gave me an ultimatum of what we could do instead. He then pressed me to decide quickly. I was so taken aback I just stared at him unmoving and he actually left the room for a few minutes. Afterwards he apologised & we went back to it without issues later but it is in my mind now.

I would say that most of our time in and out of bed is some of the best times I've had. But that other small percentage of the time borders on scary due to the sudden mood change. AIBU?

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Howlongisnow81 · 01/10/2021 20:40

Just echoing what other previous posters have said. Get rid, run! He sounds unstable to be honest,. It gave me the creeps just reading your post. This could escalate and he could get worse if this is what he's like now, what's he going to be like months or a year down the line? Dread to think! Definitely a red flag!

Orla1970 · 01/10/2021 20:40

I would trust your gut. I’d be concerned that he would do something to hurt you whilst having sex - rough anal sex or something and then claim afterwards he thought you liked it rough. I think there are plenty nice guys out there that don’t always only want ‘vanilla’ sex but I agree with other posters you’ve got into this quite early, before you know him well or have the trust to have this kind of sex. I think his response was very poor and telling. If he truly was a decent guy he would be very apologetic and not be being a dick about it x

SquareWindow · 01/10/2021 20:44

Adding my vote to the “run” camp. If he’s like this at the beginning he’ll show his true colours.

applechips · 01/10/2021 20:44

BertramLacey

I’m definitely intrigued by the candied ginger!

Siameasy · 01/10/2021 20:50

I’m spooked by this recent trend for women allegedly liking rough sex. I do recall one older guy trying to bite me when I was 16-17 (early 90s) and I hated it but he insisted. I went home and cried and didn’t see him again. I get a similar sense of menace from your bloke.
Bite man was the one and only time-never had even a suggestion of such a thing since (married now). I don’t think the bruising is normal I’m afraid.

PegasusReturns · 01/10/2021 20:54

I bruise easily and like the sort of sex that results in me bruising so I’m going to ignore that.

BUT

You asked him to do something you enjoyed (and crucially had done before) and he refused and then walked out. How the hell were you up for another go after that?! I think my vagina would have become irrevocably sealed.

BobLemon · 01/10/2021 20:55

To add to what the WeeDonkey was saying, there’s a quote that I always try to remind myself of (because I’m a terrible judge of people): “When people show you who they are, believe them the first time.” - Maya Angelou

Closetbeanmuncher · 01/10/2021 21:03

Rapey as fuck and top tip avoid using the term vanilla on dating sites or you'll be inundated with weirdos who like spitting on and strangling women. Nice.

BlueSuffragette · 01/10/2021 21:04

Trust your gut OP. Run and don't look back.

Closetbeanmuncher · 01/10/2021 21:06

You also don't need to choose between someone being respectful and having your needs met in bed...

Please can we all as a species stop peddling this bullshit.

AnnieSnap · 01/10/2021 21:07

This when you have only been seeing him for a few weeks! This is the ‘best behaviour’ period. Imagine when he’s been with you long enough to take you for granted. Run for the hills!

GatoradeMeBitch · 01/10/2021 21:07

Communicate more????

How about don't communicate at all, except for a "goodbye weirdo" text before you block him?

You've been seeing someone for a few weeks. If his behaviour "borders on scary" in any way it's time to cut and run.

CorianderAndCream · 01/10/2021 21:09

What the fuck. He doesn't respect your agency and doesn't sound like he's very considerate or respectful of your comfort. Run.

toocold54 · 01/10/2021 21:12

we've had lots of great times and conversations

I thought you’d only been with him a few weeks?
Honestly OP you seem very invested in him when you’ve only been seeing him ‘for a few weeks’ surely you don’t even really know him yet?
If anyone showed any red flags within the first few months then I’d run because you know that’s the best they’ll ever be.

redfernstation · 01/10/2021 21:12

run. op run...and don't look back

WhatAShilohPitt · 01/10/2021 21:14

Jesus H Christ, don’t give this man a second more of your time, OP. I’m frightened for you if he’s angry / volatile in bed, and it’s only been a few weeks. There’s a temper that is linked to control and sex that you do not want to see more of

Jammysod · 01/10/2021 21:21

Nope. I'd be done if that happened, it won't get any better.
If you like rougher sex, you need someone who is going to respect you and not go outside boundaries that you're comfortable with.

Prettybubblesintheair · 01/10/2021 21:29

You’re obviously concerned about the bruising or you wouldn’t have mentioned it. You can have good, rough sex without being black and blue! He sounds sinister, like how dare you move when he’s about to come. He thinks you’re beneath him, less than him, not equal. That’s why he can be rough with you and outraged you could even consider your own comfort when he’s about to come. This isn’t him being a Dom or rough sex, this is about him seeing women as things there for his pleasure.

WhatMattersMost · 01/10/2021 21:34

@Maria53 - I'm going to stick my neck out here because there's something to your posts that I cannot ignore, and it's worth my being wrong to make sure you're making the best decisions you can about your body and whom you're sharing it with.

My sense is that you grew up in a family where boundaries were compromised in some way. Perhaps your father was violent, either to you or someone else; or he was absent. Perhaps it was your mother - but more likely a man.

You have learned to come alive sexually with rough sex. There's nothing wrong with that at all. But you've also learned that rough sex is only possible with rough men. You need the edge of the excitement that that danger offers to you. But then you realise that you're in territory that's abusive - and that hurts on many levels. So you make a promise to yourself that you'll never choose that again, and you'll put your own best interests first, and you will equip yourself better when you go out searching for someone.

But the fact remains: you've done little to change yourself. Or not enough. And so you realise, once again, that your good intentions have amounted to nothing when you find yourself with a man who is attractive, hugely seductive - and who then edges you into territory that feels dangerous and unsafe. Once more.

If any of this sounds familiar to you, then perhaps you can step back enough to know that there is something else you can choose. You just can't see it yet, because you're not conditioned to realise it exists.

This is about relearning something and choosing to trust yourself fully. It's about being able to say no with full conviction.

This will probably only be possible through some kind of therapeutic intervention. Because it feels, from your words, that you are trying not to spiral down to places you know all too well - and yet, again, you find yourself spiralling.

So stop. Stop.

Find someone you can talk to, so that you can learn something different. One day, then, you'll make different, better choices. And you'll realise you can have excitement and intensity in bed, and also be wholly respected.

CorianderAndCream · 01/10/2021 21:50

And yes you can have aggressive/kinky sex with good men. But you need to be able to trust them 100% and communicate frequently and openly throughout. You need to know that if you withdraw consent from an action/sex/ anythingZ they will stop, back away and provide aftercare.

Maria53 · 01/10/2021 21:53

@Prettybubblesintheair this resonated. I think it's a good thing I've been with mainly decent men up until now as it's a good reference point. I can't imagine any of my exes picking a fight over this. The whole 'how dare you move' vibe was almost laughable the first time - and genuinely scary the second time as I realized there is a pattern.

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Maria53 · 01/10/2021 22:07

@WhatMattersMost thankfully I have a great father who was very present in my life. I have also had long term relationships with mostly decent men and I've never had a long term relationship with an abusive man.

But recently life has not been going very well & in that way I do relate to what you say about spiralling. I was last with him a few days ago for an extended period & actually called in sick to work just to be with him. I hate my job & had never done that before. I got a real rush from saying 'to hell with it' & spent days shirking life's responsibilities to be with him.

On the other side, I genuinely miss the intimacy and companionship of a long term relationship and have enjoyed my time with him in many ways. It has only been a few weeks but felt longer. It has often been romantic and tender and filled that relationship gap I've been missing. I felt happy. Until the boundary crossing.

I realise none of those nice times are worth dealing with being fundamentally disrespected so I am going to walk away. I am only human though.

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MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 01/10/2021 22:13

Outstanding sex? Doesn't sound outstanding to me where he gives you ultimatums of what positions you can choose and he leaves the room as his pissed off you dated to move. Seriously OP, have a word with yourself, he sounds shit in and out of bed. Run.

Maria53 · 01/10/2021 22:29

It was some of the most passionate sex I've had and left me satisfied sexually. We also had matching sexual appetites - in the past my libido has generally been too high but we were on the same level. People can tell me to give myself a shake all they like - but it is a fact that I enjoyed it. We are both musicians and seemed to be in exact rhythm with each other as well, which I've experienced only once before. Pure chemistry.

Clearly I didn't enjoy being bullied in bed. Those 2 moments when it happened were fleeting but significant and upsetting. And it overshadows the good parts. But the sex itself...addictive.

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Maria53 · 01/10/2021 22:34

Anyway I've decided to end it with him this weekend. I'll do it over the phone as I don't want to do it in person.

I dread if he asks why because in a way I want to tell him exactly why but can't see him reacting well.

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