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In Laws and Christmas

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TurkeyTescos · 25/09/2021 21:06

Background I've been with DH for over 15 years and DH has always had Christmas dinner with my family. The reason for this is because MIL spent it with her parents and six siblings. Their family tradition is once all the siblings children (DH and his cousins ect) turned 17 they weren't allowed to go their anymore and where expected to have dinner with friends or relatives from the other side of the family. My DM even hosted sister in law when she turned 17 because she had no where to go for dinner, even though her own mum was a few streets away having a fab time with her own parents and sisters.

2020/21 has been hard for MIL she lost her father to covid and her mother has recently gone into residential care, her childhood home was also sold over the summer. Last week MIL called in to see me and announced that since she no longer has anywhere to go her and two of her sisters will be having Christmas dinner in my house, she then handed me a few pages of printed instructions on how to cook it the way they like it and a running order for the day. I told her it wasn't happening but she (and only her) would be welcome to spend the day with us at my mum's house.

Today at the supermarket my DM ran into MIL and one of her sisters The sister started shouting at my DM that she'd ruined Christmas for them by purposely keeping them apart, that she was greedy for expecting DH and I to spend this Christmas with them when we'd spent every other Christmas together. MIL also shouted but DM glazed over it and said she spent most of the time crying hysterically while her sister done the shouting. I suspect DM doesn't want to upset me with what was really said.

I'm fuming, but I know it's best to sleep on it before confronting her tomorrow. She will need to be told that she was completely out of line speaking to my mum like that, who has quite rightly rescinded the invitation for dinner

AIBU by telling MIL she isn't welcome to spend any part of Christmas day with us? I'm feeling guilty because they are right, we've always spent it with my family. Should I just host MIL and her sisters this once and make it clear that they'll need to find somewhere else to eat together next year ?

DH is quite adamant that MIL be left to her own devices, that all the sisters are in their 60s, have their own homes, can and should cook for themselves. They all also have children so I don't know why I've been singled out tbh.

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midsomermurderess · 03/10/2021 21:02

Only on Mumsnet do people shout at others in supermarkets.

Thevoiceofreason2021 · 03/10/2021 21:35

How awful, get DH to talk to her . If you have to have the chat say … you have your own family Christmas traditions that don’t involve shouting at people in supermarkets and name calling. She’d be welcome for left overs on Boxing Day….

Dillydollydingdong · 03/10/2021 22:16

I couldn't believe that not only did MIL try to engineer an invitation to Christmas lunch, but also wanted to dictate the arrangements! What a bizarre family! She should just arrange to host lunch for herself and her siblings and anyone else in her family who has nowhere to go! Or is that too much trouble and expense for her? Bravo to your DH for refusing to get sucked in.

Bugbabe1970 · 03/10/2021 22:41

Fuck that shit!
I wouldn't even ring her

Nixster87 · 03/10/2021 23:17

@HungryHippo11

Should I just host MIL and her sisters this once and make it clear that they'll need to find somewhere else to eat together next year? Don't even think about doing this!!!
Don’t do it, they will expect the same each time the and I’m sorry OP but they sound like the sort of people that would see a kin gesture and just take take take. Don’t be a doormat. You do Christmas how you want to do it. If she was happy enough to push others away when it suited her then she should be happy enough to make her OWN plans and not take over every one else’s life at Christmas. After bending over backwards to accommodate relatives in the past on a special occasion and having the day ruined I’m of the opinion that it’s our choice as a family of four now after my sons 1st birthday was ruined by my SIL. Don’t back down. I wouldn’t dream of forcing myself on someone at Christmas
altiara · 04/10/2021 00:10

Omfg!
I love the sound of your family Christmas and your DM sounds fab.
Can’t believe your DH was unlucky enough to have 2 parents that didn’t want to spend Christmas with him. That is going to sting more and more as your little one gets older. Hopefully you’ll have great fun setting your own Christmas traditions.

If your DH does unblock his mother, can he make sure he lets her know he’s spending Christmas with his family (can’t remember the exact wording from your last post, but felt this was missing from his excellent message!)
#Iwantahammantoo

Mamanyt · 04/10/2021 00:42

This is one of those cases where an old adage is totally appropriate..."She has made her bed, now she must lie in it." If that is how she treated her children, it's a bit late to start wanting to be a loving family now. DO NOT DO THIS EVEN ONE TIME! It will turn into every year, and will be a horror show from beginning to end. Let her deal with what she has so carefully constructed.

Liesovertheocean · 04/10/2021 07:08

The thought of refusing any of my DC’s at Christmas is an utter anathema to me.

So what happened if they were still living at home? Or were they all kicked out of living in the house before age 17 too? Or they could live there but Christmas Day dawned and they were sent on their way ‘Merry Christmas… now off you fuck’?! What happened during family Christmases when they were small? Were they fully included? Were they happy occasions? Did they still receive gifts post 17?

Obviously YANBU. Just so many questions.

Strangeways19 · 04/10/2021 10:17

Maybe don't say anything at all, leave it to DH & ignore the whole thing

Mamanyt · 04/10/2021 10:40

@mrbreezeet1

There is nothing mean about not inviting someone who has excluded you from Christmas for years simply because that someone suddenly has nowhere to go. Do you not get that this "mother" sent her children on their way at 17 years old, to have Christmas where ever, while she had dinner with "her" family? Get a grip.

Good God, I have spent Christmas alone for the past 15 years. My sons' work schedules only allow them one day (Christmas Day) off, so they can't come to me, and I can't tolerate a 2 day bus trip to get to them for one day of real visiting. I fix my own dinner, exactly as I want it, and my little cat and I have a lovely time. I do not whine or grouse at anyone, NOR do I waste one minute beyond "wish things were different" feeling sorry for myself.

MrsGrumpyKnickers · 04/10/2021 15:41

100% tell MIL to get lost. Let them sort their own Xmas out - it’s not your fault their situation has changed. And I’d be furious if my mum was confronted like this.

Madamum18 · 04/10/2021 16:50

Dear me, she does like her own way doesn't she! Very very odd behaviour and clearly used to getting her owen way because she just keeps going and wears people down!!

Have a good Christmas and well done for supporting your DH and not being browbeaten!!

momtoboys · 04/10/2021 19:47

I feel terrible for your husband. I cannot imagine telling my sons that once they turned 17 they would have to find somewhere else to have Christmas.

You both have handled this incredibly well, as has your mum. I would absolutely go no contact with the lot of them.

Loudestcat14 · 07/10/2021 09:07

Have things settled down now, TurkeyTescos?

TurkeyTescos · 09/10/2021 19:44

@Loudestcat14

Have things settled down now, TurkeyTescos?
Everything's just plodding along as usual. MIL would normally have called in once or twice by now for a cup of tea but we haven't seen her. Knowing her she probably thinks she's punishing us by not calling in but untill your comment I hadn't actually noticed her absence.
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Teacupsandtoast · 20/12/2021 20:12

So OP, we need an update!

Georgeskitchen · 20/12/2021 22:39

Wow some people are unreal!!! Never will I ever criticise my own family ever again!!

MinnieGirl · 20/12/2021 22:43

I’ve been thinking about this thread, and wondering what happened!

TurkeyTescos · 21/12/2021 13:39

We have saw MIL on one or two occasions since the row. Everything has been very polite and we haven't mentioned Christmas plans or the Aunts random invite.

DH hasn't brought it up to me so I don't know of he has heard anything new from his cousins about it all.

Christmas dinner at my mums has been cancelled they've both tested positive for COVID this past weekend. Mums on the mend, her symptoms where just a light cold. Dad has been in bed sleeping with full flu symptoms and is suffering quite a bit.

All being well we have planned to have our Christmas dinner on NYE with them but on Christmas day it'll just be me, DH and our DD eating chicken, stuffing and ham baguette

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MinnieGirl · 21/12/2021 15:03

@TurkeyTescos

We have saw MIL on one or two occasions since the row. Everything has been very polite and we haven't mentioned Christmas plans or the Aunts random invite.

DH hasn't brought it up to me so I don't know of he has heard anything new from his cousins about it all.

Christmas dinner at my mums has been cancelled they've both tested positive for COVID this past weekend. Mums on the mend, her symptoms where just a light cold. Dad has been in bed sleeping with full flu symptoms and is suffering quite a bit.

All being well we have planned to have our Christmas dinner on NYE with them but on Christmas day it'll just be me, DH and our DD eating chicken, stuffing and ham baguette

Sorry to hear about your parents, hope dad starts to feel better soon.

Sounds like a perfect Christmas! The people you love and cherish the most.

Glad no more nonsense from Mil…. Hopefully this will be a turning point for her too.

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