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To have had enough of sex?!

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PandaEyed13 · 20/09/2021 10:42

Back story: Sex! Me and hubby started out the way most young people do - couldn't get enough! Day, night and anything in-between!

Present day: It's 11 years, 2 children, a house to run and 2 full time jobs later! I'm knackered, I really am! The old libido isn't what it used to be and it's because of a mix of things really - I had a difficult birth with my 2nd baby 4 years ago, I had a forceps delivery and an episiotomy, there was a lot of stitches, a long healing time and a lot of scar tissue, sex has only just started to stop feeling tender down there over the last year. Plus I'm older, a bit creakier, a teeny bit heavier, a lot sleepier and juggling a few different roles; I'm wife, mum, employee, carer as our youngest has special needs, cook, cleaner and so many others that the role of minx just doesn't feel like it's really me anymore - and I'm ok with it! The problem isn't the actual act itself, it's not boring or flat when we do it, it's great! The bottom line on the topic really is that I just don't need it as much anymore, I don't get as much as I used to get from it when I was 23 and to be honest..as bad as it sounds..once a month would suit me down to the ground!
However, DH would have it every night if he could, his own drive is much higher. So I do try! Nowadays, it's twice a week. That's not the problem though, the problem is he pesters every night. Literally every night, as soon as the kids have gone to bed, while I'm sat there on the couch watching TV at 8:30pm, it starts! Every night.
He sulks like a child and refuses to talk to me for the rest of the night on the ones that I say "not tonight dear." I do not over exaggerate, he does not talk to me until well into the next day!
He refuses to take matters into his own hands (excuse the pun), as in, he will not 'self love' if you know what I mean, because apparently that is my job! He says it's naff and that it's like hoping for a takeaway pizza and having to settle for cheese on toast!
Any time a saucy scene comes on the TV he huffs and makes some sarky remark like "hmm wonder what that's like!" or "I wouldn't know mate!" I spend most evenings getting ignored, getting the cold shoulder and alone, as he stomps off to sit in the other room and sulk.
I'm beginning to become resentful. I'm finding myself relenting and doing it anyway on times when I really just don't want to. I don't think any of the way he acts towards me in these moments of what he believes to be rejection is acceptable. I feel like we're constantly walking shaky ground that wobbles between emotional blackmail and sexual harassment! He doesn't talk to anyone about these things, he tells nobody because apparently this just isn't the sort of thing mates talk about, so I feel like there's nobody to say to him, "best not treat her like shit because you didn't get it, that's straddling a line there mate/love/dear!" I'm the only one who ever tells him it's not OK to act this way because you didn't get some, but he obviously just thinks I'm talking crap as I'm the one on the opposing side of his argument and calls me a boring old housemaid!
In less charged moments, we have talked and I have been totally honest about how I feel about it all personally. I've openly explained I just don't have as high a drive as him anymore and told him my reasons, but promised to make more effort to meet his needs if he felt like physical connection is a more important part of the relationship to him. And I do, as I say - twice a week is me reeeaaally giving it my all. He in return vows to lay off a bit more and to possibly see to himself on occasions, because in these less charged moments of daylight clarity, he does feel mortified at how his behaviour looks towards me when he gets like he does. But the next day, as soon as the kids have gone up, it's all forgotten again and it's back to the mithering for it like a teenage boy and sulking and freezing me out and slamming drawers and doors!
In every other aspect of life and our relationship he's brill. Great dad, good laugh, works hard, my family and friends love him, pulls his weight round the house. We're the absolute best of friends and we adore being with each other, we'd be together every minute if we could. I have no trust issues or worry and have 100% confidence that his head will never be turned or that he'll go looking elsewhere! But there's this private problem that is threatening to swallow everything else up and I honestly do believe that it would eventually be a relationship ender some day down the line should things continue the way they are, because I'm at my limit! I don't want to feel pressured/cajoled/bullied into doing the deed when I don't want to anymore! I'm starting to ask myself difficult questions about the acceptability of his behaviour and whether or not I'm experiencing some form of manipulation!
And I know I'm lucky to still have my partner want and desire me so much after all these years, I do factor that in but it's started to become a question of "does he want ME or does he just want IT?" Especially the last couple of years, he's always had a high sex drive but it's been something else over the last couple of years, it's become next level desperation almost!
I guess what I think at this point is that if he still has a sky high drive, and I don't, and I'm trying, but he still has a daily need - he should go take a long shower! I don't think I should be 100% responsible for his sexual satisfaction. Seriously, just back off and go have 10 minutes to yourself! AIBU?

OP posts:
thepeopleversuswork · 20/09/2021 14:34

show him this thread

That's not going to end well.

Men like this don't value women or their opinions and think of them as second class citizens: if you do that he'll just think of it as a bunch of feminazi harridans ganging up on him for demanding his conjugal rights.

It may be a cynical viewpoint but I think men like this are past negotation.

Droite · 20/09/2021 14:34

He in return vows to lay off a bit more and to possibly see to himself on occasions, because in these less charged moments of daylight clarity, he does feel mortified at how his behaviour looks towards me when he gets like he does. But the next day, as soon as the kids have gone up, it's all forgotten again and it's back to the mithering for it like a teenage boy and sulking and freezing me out and slamming drawers and doors!

What happens if, when he starts nagging, you remind him of what he said before and ask him what's changed?

I hope you've pointed out that there is nothing less likely to make you feel like sex than sulking and slamming doors.

TrampolineForMrKite · 20/09/2021 14:38

Fuck. That.

I’ve not read the other responses yet because I’m on my lunch, but just read your OP @PandaEyed13 and had to reply.

Your husband is a bully. Plain and simple. I fail to see how you have a lovely time with him in general or how he’s a good husband of the majority of your leisure time is spent with him in a sulk because you won’t “put out”. The idea of him giving you the silent treatment and being so mean because you won’t shag him every night of the week has turned my stomach- what a fuckwit.

I’ve been with my husband a similar amount of time and have similarly aged kids. He’s definitely got a higher sex drive than me, but as my husband has the mentality of the grown up he is and not of a 14yr old boy, so he doesn’t sulk if I’m not in the mood. We manage it normally a few times a month, but our youngest is going through a rough patch with sleeping right now and it’s meaning no sex and not even any cuddles as she’s in the bed with me and he’s in the spare room. He’s not once moaned about sex because, as I say, he’s not 14.

I’m not one to normally leap straight to LTB but I couldn’t live like this. I think that you might benefit from some couples counselling because you need a way to communicate about this that doesn’t involve him bullying you, or you giving in just to not be walking on egg shells.

There’s a horrible, sexual assault vibe to this too which really bothers me. Does he actually respect your consent if he’s having sex with you when you don’t want to? I’d worry this was going in a horrible direction- how long until he’s not waiting for even your consent given under duress?

Honestly, he sounds like an arsehole and I’m furious on your behalf.

flowerlass · 20/09/2021 14:39

Tell him literally piss off

Which means?

Dramalady52 · 20/09/2021 14:42

I feel for you OP, I had one like this and I resented it so much because I had no time and space for myself to see if I even felt like sex. Even when he was having an affair, he was still badgering me. I used to joke if he was getting it 24/7 he would want it 25/8! We eventually split and it has taken me 8 years (8!) to even start thinking about getting it together with anyone. I still havent!

saleorbouy · 20/09/2021 14:53

FFS why does he still act like a spoilt teen, does he not understand that no adult would find this behaviour endearing or sexy.
He needs to grow up and act as an adult male, if he wants it more then maybe he could reduce your load of household chores.
In all honesty as a male I think he's doing very well at twice weekly and this is also validated by a straw pole of colleagues.
Ask Santa to bring him a fleshlight to stop him sulking!

Chikapu · 20/09/2021 14:56

Literally no one...
You we were still 69ing yesterday afternoon

No one cares, it's not relevant to anything the OP has said and it comes over a bit Jay from the Inbetweeners.

Fizzbangwallop · 20/09/2021 15:16

@PandaEyed13 Your husband sounds like one of those dogs that humps everything. It’s a shame you can’t take him to the vet to be castrated. Tell him that he needs to get therapy or you will divorce him because his behaviour is horrible. It doesn’t matter if he’s lovely 98% of the time - would you drink a cup of tea if you were told it contained 2% shit?

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 20/09/2021 15:16

Which one of you thinks that car repairs and holidays are more important than you feeling heard? Sounds as if it's him, though it also sounds as if he simply doesn't care at all about hearing what he doesn't want to hear. Especially if you are "relenting and doing it anyway on times when I really just don't want to". Not hearing you and keeping up the sulks is working out for him better than therapy, at least in the short term. You might need to call an end to the "relenting" if you want to be heard.

Immaculatemisconception · 20/09/2021 15:21

@Mary1Mary

This is extremely severe emotional and sexual abuse.

You don't need counselling or mediation, you need women's aid or the police. What he's doing to you is a CRIME. He's a rapist and a sexual abuser. He should be in prison.What other forms of abuse are happening? Because where there is one there are always others. There is no way your children don't hear him slamming doors.

This happened to me op and it got worse. I would stop having ANY sex with him and I would sleep separately if possible. Also I would not be available for abuse in the evenings. I would walk the dog, see a friend, be upstairs, have a bath, anything to be in a different room from him.

Your marriage is over. You need to get him out of your house. There's no coming back from this.

As someone who has been through this, I can concur that you are 100% correct with this.

Thanks for the clarity.

QueenBee52 · 20/09/2021 15:26

OP I hope you are okay ... its a lot to take in when you realise you are not being unreasonable and see that you are being abused 🌸

TaraR2020 · 20/09/2021 15:27

I haven't read all the replies to your posts, I get the gist and agree with the sentiments, but I've read both of your posts, op.

I do think your dh's behaviour is out of order. How has he got to this stage in adulthood without learning that so much more goes into a woman's sex drive than just a bit of foreplay?

He wouldn't need to look far to see that he needs to do much, much more of his share and that actually some dates might help too Hmm

Therapy would be good here I think, you're clearly not getting through to him and someone needs to make him understand. You could consider couples counselling or sex counselling.

I hope he stays true to you and I know you trust him but how many of us have been burned while under the same belief?

PandaEyed13 · 20/09/2021 15:29

Wow I didn't expect so many replies, it's taken me a while to read them all. I promise you, I value each and every reply and that some have taken the time to type lengthy ones.

It says on my mumsnet homepage that this thread is trending! Shock I wasn't expecting that! I don't think I could show him this post now that it's gained so much traction, he'd feel betrayed that I'd assassinated him on the Internet, and it was trending!

I don't think I'd know where to begin replying to all points but I'll reply to what I remember and I'm so sorry if I miss anything out!

So yes, when we do do it, I do enjoy it and he is very much about making sure I'm having a good time and I get my finish out of it and not just us. A lot of the time he doesn't know that I've relented because if I don't appear to be enthusiastic and keen, he won't lay a finger on me..which..I don't know if that speaks positively for him?! He never wants to if I'm clearly not interested/not keen/not in the mood. The problem is I tell myself a lot "go on, it's 15 minutes, you'll enjoy it and then you can watch strictly!" I guess for me I'd easily lose those 2 nights a week, but I'm quite good at geeing myself up and engaging, and then once we are doing it it's nice. So am I misleading him there? I thought I was making effort to factor in his needs and compromise without doing the nude splits every night!

OP posts:
padsi1975 · 20/09/2021 15:30

Op, I sympathize, I am in a somewhat similar situation but dh accepts the twice a week (even though he would like more). I would try therapy. Sulking and ignoring you is rubbish and won't solve anything. But if he feels like he needs/wants more sex, then maybe he is also feeling terrible? I've seen posts on here from posters who are very upset because their partners aren't having sex/enough sex with them and they always get a very sympathetic ear. There are two sides to this, I'd try to work through it with him and a counsellor, if you are otherwise happy. Good luck.

Itsnotdeep · 20/09/2021 15:30

You're not lucky OP. He's a sulky, coercive, bullying sex pest. He sees you as a wank sock there to fulfil his needs. And no, you don't have to put up with it, and it's not your problem to solve. It's his.

I actually would ltb. But if you can't face doing that, stop having sex with him all together. There's nothing less attractive and enticing than a sex pest.

StoatMilk · 20/09/2021 15:34

@BreadPita

It sounds like twice a week of "duty sex" isn't doing the job for him. Sex is about more that mechanical release and it's easy to see what would be "missing" from his perspective, with your current setup. If masturbation was an adequate substitute for sex with a woman who is attracted to him, I imagine that's what he would stuck with in the first place. It's not a fault on either of your parts, you're just mismatched. It will work itself out with him either having a (hopefully discreet) affair or your relationship ending.
Bloody hell @BreadPita I hope you’re not considering a job as a marriage counsellor. ‘discrete affair’ it’s not the 1950s you know Hmm
AmaryllisNightAndDay · 20/09/2021 15:34

A lot of the time he doesn't know that I've relented because if I don't appear to be enthusiastic and keen, he won't lay a finger on me..which..I don't know if that speaks positively for him?! He never wants to if I'm clearly not interested/not keen/not in the mood. The problem is I tell myself a lot "go on, it's 15 minutes, you'll enjoy it and then you can watch strictly!"

So you have to shag him and you also have to pretend you wanted to, because otherwise he wont shag you and instead you'll get the sulks and door slamming? Sorry no, that's not very positive.

EmbarrassedNC21 · 20/09/2021 15:45

Solidarity OP. I feel very much the same.

I'm a special needs parent too.

My OH doesn't give me the silent treatment or make comments like yours does but I can tell he's dissapointed when I don't reciprocate advances.

Following in the hope I can take on board some of the advice you get.

Saoirse82 · 20/09/2021 15:47

@secretsad

This is less about sex and more about your relationship and it sounds like you either go back to the start and really work on it, or you split.

I live and adore my partner. I want sex with him because I enjoy the closeness and intimacy. I was in a dead end marriage then met my soulmate. Sometimes my body doesn't want sex, sometimes his doesn't, god we have real life to deal with! But you need to nurture the intimacy the best you can in other ways.

Your DH is getting it wrong. My partner might say 'do you want to go to bed?'- I always say yes Grinbut if I didn't we would just do something else like a jigsaw 🙂 he would also give me massages and expect nothing else. Abs I would do the same for him- we give because we love each other. Oh, I'm 33 weeks pregnant too with baby #5 and nothing has changed, we were still 69ing yesterday afternoon Grin

You need to think wether you want to be with him and be close to him again. And then if you do you both need to sit down and talk about it and be kind to each other. Or you need to leave.

Thanks for this, nearly threw up my lunch 🤢
Ionlydomassiveones · 20/09/2021 15:47

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FinallyHere · 20/09/2021 15:49

A lot of the time he doesn't know that I've relented because if I don't appear to be enthusiastic and keen, he won't lay a finger on me..which..I don't know if that speaks positively for him?!

This could be a good sign, so long as he never sulked, never referred to it again.

Sulking, slamming doors: I'm afraid that it reads to me as if he wants you to participate 'willingly', to let him off the hook for any accusation that he is coercing you in the first place.

He is not stupid about getting his own way, and making you think it's somehow your fault, is he ?

LalalalalalaLand123 · 20/09/2021 15:53

His behaviour is so revolting that it would give me the ick for him forever. He sounds disgusting OP.

TheDailyCarbunkle · 20/09/2021 15:53

@PandaEyed13

Wow I didn't expect so many replies, it's taken me a while to read them all. I promise you, I value each and every reply and that some have taken the time to type lengthy ones.

It says on my mumsnet homepage that this thread is trending! Shock I wasn't expecting that! I don't think I could show him this post now that it's gained so much traction, he'd feel betrayed that I'd assassinated him on the Internet, and it was trending!

I don't think I'd know where to begin replying to all points but I'll reply to what I remember and I'm so sorry if I miss anything out!

So yes, when we do do it, I do enjoy it and he is very much about making sure I'm having a good time and I get my finish out of it and not just us. A lot of the time he doesn't know that I've relented because if I don't appear to be enthusiastic and keen, he won't lay a finger on me..which..I don't know if that speaks positively for him?! He never wants to if I'm clearly not interested/not keen/not in the mood. The problem is I tell myself a lot "go on, it's 15 minutes, you'll enjoy it and then you can watch strictly!" I guess for me I'd easily lose those 2 nights a week, but I'm quite good at geeing myself up and engaging, and then once we are doing it it's nice. So am I misleading him there? I thought I was making effort to factor in his needs and compromise without doing the nude splits every night!

So not only does he coerce you into sex, you have to pretend you're delighted with it to avoid being punished?

Sorry, no, that doesn't speak well of him. That just indicates that he has you extremely well trained, to the extent that you give him exactly what he wants no matter how hard it is for you. He gets to think he's not forcing you into sex, you get bullied, coerced and disrespected.

Snog · 20/09/2021 15:53

Wow, a sulking sex pest.
I'm not sure any other good qualities could outweigh this immature and inconsiderate behaviour FIVE NIGHTS EVERY WEEK!!!!

Lweji · 20/09/2021 15:56

Sorry, no, that doesn't speak well of him.

Agree.

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