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To have had enough of sex?!

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PandaEyed13 · 20/09/2021 10:42

Back story: Sex! Me and hubby started out the way most young people do - couldn't get enough! Day, night and anything in-between!

Present day: It's 11 years, 2 children, a house to run and 2 full time jobs later! I'm knackered, I really am! The old libido isn't what it used to be and it's because of a mix of things really - I had a difficult birth with my 2nd baby 4 years ago, I had a forceps delivery and an episiotomy, there was a lot of stitches, a long healing time and a lot of scar tissue, sex has only just started to stop feeling tender down there over the last year. Plus I'm older, a bit creakier, a teeny bit heavier, a lot sleepier and juggling a few different roles; I'm wife, mum, employee, carer as our youngest has special needs, cook, cleaner and so many others that the role of minx just doesn't feel like it's really me anymore - and I'm ok with it! The problem isn't the actual act itself, it's not boring or flat when we do it, it's great! The bottom line on the topic really is that I just don't need it as much anymore, I don't get as much as I used to get from it when I was 23 and to be honest..as bad as it sounds..once a month would suit me down to the ground!
However, DH would have it every night if he could, his own drive is much higher. So I do try! Nowadays, it's twice a week. That's not the problem though, the problem is he pesters every night. Literally every night, as soon as the kids have gone to bed, while I'm sat there on the couch watching TV at 8:30pm, it starts! Every night.
He sulks like a child and refuses to talk to me for the rest of the night on the ones that I say "not tonight dear." I do not over exaggerate, he does not talk to me until well into the next day!
He refuses to take matters into his own hands (excuse the pun), as in, he will not 'self love' if you know what I mean, because apparently that is my job! He says it's naff and that it's like hoping for a takeaway pizza and having to settle for cheese on toast!
Any time a saucy scene comes on the TV he huffs and makes some sarky remark like "hmm wonder what that's like!" or "I wouldn't know mate!" I spend most evenings getting ignored, getting the cold shoulder and alone, as he stomps off to sit in the other room and sulk.
I'm beginning to become resentful. I'm finding myself relenting and doing it anyway on times when I really just don't want to. I don't think any of the way he acts towards me in these moments of what he believes to be rejection is acceptable. I feel like we're constantly walking shaky ground that wobbles between emotional blackmail and sexual harassment! He doesn't talk to anyone about these things, he tells nobody because apparently this just isn't the sort of thing mates talk about, so I feel like there's nobody to say to him, "best not treat her like shit because you didn't get it, that's straddling a line there mate/love/dear!" I'm the only one who ever tells him it's not OK to act this way because you didn't get some, but he obviously just thinks I'm talking crap as I'm the one on the opposing side of his argument and calls me a boring old housemaid!
In less charged moments, we have talked and I have been totally honest about how I feel about it all personally. I've openly explained I just don't have as high a drive as him anymore and told him my reasons, but promised to make more effort to meet his needs if he felt like physical connection is a more important part of the relationship to him. And I do, as I say - twice a week is me reeeaaally giving it my all. He in return vows to lay off a bit more and to possibly see to himself on occasions, because in these less charged moments of daylight clarity, he does feel mortified at how his behaviour looks towards me when he gets like he does. But the next day, as soon as the kids have gone up, it's all forgotten again and it's back to the mithering for it like a teenage boy and sulking and freezing me out and slamming drawers and doors!
In every other aspect of life and our relationship he's brill. Great dad, good laugh, works hard, my family and friends love him, pulls his weight round the house. We're the absolute best of friends and we adore being with each other, we'd be together every minute if we could. I have no trust issues or worry and have 100% confidence that his head will never be turned or that he'll go looking elsewhere! But there's this private problem that is threatening to swallow everything else up and I honestly do believe that it would eventually be a relationship ender some day down the line should things continue the way they are, because I'm at my limit! I don't want to feel pressured/cajoled/bullied into doing the deed when I don't want to anymore! I'm starting to ask myself difficult questions about the acceptability of his behaviour and whether or not I'm experiencing some form of manipulation!
And I know I'm lucky to still have my partner want and desire me so much after all these years, I do factor that in but it's started to become a question of "does he want ME or does he just want IT?" Especially the last couple of years, he's always had a high sex drive but it's been something else over the last couple of years, it's become next level desperation almost!
I guess what I think at this point is that if he still has a sky high drive, and I don't, and I'm trying, but he still has a daily need - he should go take a long shower! I don't think I should be 100% responsible for his sexual satisfaction. Seriously, just back off and go have 10 minutes to yourself! AIBU?

OP posts:
BrendaBubbles · 20/09/2021 12:30

He either goes yes.. in which case you say "would you like to rape me now, because that's what you're asking to do"

Look, I'm in the LTB camp and that OP should not be placating this sex pest, but if your relationship gets to the point that the question above is something you could ask, in all seriously, it's over, really.

BrendaBubbles · 20/09/2021 12:32

i think you need a really honest chat with him and see how you meet in the middle

An honest chat is a good idea but meeting "in the middle" isn't really possible over something like this. For example, if her idea is zero and his idea is every day, even once a month is sexually inappropriate/borderline abuse because she will be having sex when she does not want it.

Cam001 · 20/09/2021 12:36

@DeeCeeCherry

Hes not very sexy is he. But youre not aligned sexually so you may as well not be together.

Your H doesnt want to live without sex. You do want to live without sex. Youre not aligned.

Where does OP say she wants to live without sex? Fuck off those of you saying if she won't have sex with him every night then he can't be blamed for cheating. Who would be turned on by a whinging, sulky man child? He's hardly helping the situation is he?! Rather than just pawing at her like a randy dog every evening, perhaps he could make some fucking effort to get her in the mood?
Redjumper1 · 20/09/2021 12:36

I also can't understand how he could be brill if he is sulking, stonewalling, slamming draws, moping if he doesn't get it. So five nights out of the week he acts like this? Doesn't speak to you until the next day but he is brill? I can't take your post serious when you say this, sorry.

Spiindoctor · 20/09/2021 12:37

Can you pay for care for DC and go back to work. I personally find caring all day for others does not leave me fired up for sex. Perhaps if you mixed with other adults it might seem a better idea.

Is he looking at porn - hence he's fired up.

Could he leave you to 'rest' quietly in the evening with no distraction of DCs , housework, so you have at least an hour or two to do what you enjoy, whilst he does the bedtime etc, then go to bed early feeling fun not exhausted.

There could be a compromise - babysitter on Sat night, then back for good sex.
Three times a week but only if he no longer nags.
Why isn't he exhausted.

Yummymummy2020 · 20/09/2021 12:38

I think you need another serious talk at the end of which you either walk away, or stay with an understanding that this behaviour needs to change as it’s causing resentment all around. If you don’t want sex you don’t want sex and that is that. It’s hard though because it’s not nice to feel rejected either but I would have thought surely he would give up on annoying you for it by now😂 you shouldn’t have to put up with sulking or feel you need to do it for a quiet life, and he isn’t being a good husband by putting you into that position!

Ori3 · 20/09/2021 12:38

I think most men are like this to a greater or lesser degree. Sex becomes a somewhat emotionless regular must-have, that they feel entitled to in a marriage. Unfortunately, because it’s so obvious after a while that it’s just a case of relieving the selfish need, rather than any genuine desire to connect it starts to feel like another thing on the “to do” list. And then they sulk & strop around when after a day of working hard you’re not willing to tick off the last item on that list that requires you to magically transform from exhausted momma/professional into a siren at the drop of a hat.

Sorry I don’t know what the solution is. But I don’t think you’re alone in this experience.

PermanentTemporary · 20/09/2021 12:38

Twice a week sounds good. I think if you weren't being constantly pestered, but knew for certain that you weren't going to be 'got at' every single night, had some time to relax, then twice a week would get better and more fun.

Tell him that. Put it in the diary. Find a red card. When he goes on on a non sex night, show him the red card. Tell him he can do the same if he doesn't get twice a week (assuming you're not ill).

Don't leave him. He's behaving like an absolute twat about this but you have a good marriage.

VenusTiger · 20/09/2021 12:38

Fuck it, show him this thread OP - what have you got to lose. It'll do him good to see how it's not just an issue in your relationship, but many others experience this dick behaviour too.

Suzi888 · 20/09/2021 12:39

He needs to get one of those sex toys, you know the one 😂.
YANBU in the slightest, he sounds so annoying!

Lsquiggles · 20/09/2021 12:42

@GoodnightGrandma

Have you told him that him pawing at you, and constantly mentioning it, is actually a turn off ? Maybe if he tried stopping this it might help.
This!
Shehasadiamondinthesky · 20/09/2021 12:43

My marriage basically ended because of this OP, only I was seriously ill yet he expected me to hang from the chandaliers every night.
I absolutely refused, I had enough problems dealing with my painful illness and he showed zero sympathy or understanding just became a chronic sex pest.
In the end it turned out that he's be happy having sex with anyone so you are not lucky that he fancies you.
There is nothing that makes my vagina slam shut faster than a clam as a nasty sulking sex pest.
In the end I said pester me again and I'll bite if off now just grow up and that was the end of our marriage.
My life is great now, when I'm tired I can just go to bed and sleep.

OnlySpam · 20/09/2021 12:43

Have you taken leave of your sense OP?

Why are you putting up with this abusing behaviour? And yeah, let's call it what it is.

For at least 5 days a week, he makes you feel like shit and ignores you. Is this really the relationship you want to model to your kids?

If this was me, there would be one more talk about this. One more. And he'd be getting an ultimatum that I would be carrying out if he continued to treat me in this way

Find your self respect and boundaries and tell him he either stops or you'll start the ball rolling with a separation. And mean it

Your post is written in a jokey fashion but what you describe isn't a joke

PandaEyed13 · 20/09/2021 12:43

I read each and every one of these replies, thank you very much to everyone who's posted. Some made me chuckle and some really opened my eyes. There's been some strong words used but I'm not offended by it at all, it's all worth massive consideration.

We've been debating therapy for a while. It's mainly me that wants to do that. I don't automatically assume a therapist would side with me, I just want to be heard and for him to see someone hearing me and for him to see someone understanding me and have a neutral person suggest a different perspective to him. It gets put off and put off because, well, money! Couples counselling and therapy isn't exactly a bargain and there's always something else that needs paying for first, like a house move and school trips and car repairs and a holiday for the kids and family weddings/gatherings, etc. I've wondered if he's possibly going through something as well, some life crisis as like I mentioned, his need and urge and desperation for it has really accelerated over the past couple of years, so I've wondered if he needs to speak to someone about there possibly being something else going on with him or in/on his head?! I even looked at mediation but again, pricey!

So I posted here because I think we have to be careful what grievances we air with our family and friends, because if you get your problems ironed out and find a way to move on with your OH, that friend/family member will still always know and remember that time you let rip and spilled your guts! I can't tell my mum for example, who is genuinely my bestie, because I don't need her giving him the stink eye over the turkey at the christmas dinner table, just in case we do spend the rest of our lives together. Obviously that's the intention, with a hope to get this worked through.

To answer some of the comments about him being fantastic in the day and a sulking pest once the kids have gone up - yep. Absolutely! Like a switch has been flicked at 8:30ish!

OP posts:
Couchbettato · 20/09/2021 12:43

@thepeopleversuswork

OP I don't think the issue is that you've had enough of sex, its that you've had enough of your husband. Which is perfectly reasonable as he's a lazy, entitled, sex pest.

I'd put money on the suggestion that you would enjoy sex if it weren't with him. And frankly I'd recommend it.

Either you sit him down and read him the riot act that his behaviour is a HUGE turnoff and he's never getting laid again if he slams doors and sulks. Or you leave.

Not acceptable in any way, shape or form.

Yes, this all the way.

He's a sex pest. That's a huge turn off for any one. And once contempt moves in then the relationship is over.

PooWillyNameChange · 20/09/2021 12:45

He is not a good husband or a good man and is treating you like shit.

I'm not sure there is any way forward from this unless he gets some serious therapy, does a U turn and starts acknowledging you're a human being. You're worth far more than this ...there are men out there who pull their weight AND don't coerce their partners into sex they don't want.

OnlySpam · 20/09/2021 12:46

You don't need to see a therapist. He may do, to get to the bottom of why he's become a sex pest though.

BrilloPaddy · 20/09/2021 12:47

DH was exactly the same, and it got that I used to dread putting the kids to bed............ we could have had sex every day and he'd still have wanted more. In the end, we split for 6 months because I told him enough was enough - go off, be a single man and find someone whose got nothing better to do than "service" him. I actually told him that it repulsed me and my libido had shrivelled up and died long ago due to his behaviour.

Funnily enough, finding a human sex doll didn't happen Hmm and he was begging to come back. Only he did so in the very clear knowledge that one more sulk was the permanent deal breaker and he'd be single permanently.

Spiindoctor · 20/09/2021 12:50

Is he in an 'all lads together' work scenario?
So they exaggerate their sex lives, boast so he thinks he is expecting the norm.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 20/09/2021 12:51

And who among us is not hardwired to crave coercion. Hmm

I'm sorry this is happening to you, OP and I find it difficult to believe that this isn't having a wider impact on your household to have a tantruming sulky adult.

Whatwouldscullydo · 20/09/2021 12:52

Oh sweet heart, he's a sex pest. He's not a nice man his behaviour with everything else is merely because he thinks u will " pay up" later.

Don't spend the next few years of your life where u could be having a.much more respectful relationship and be having great sex that you actually want for a change , with this arse hole!

And if you dont want anyone else or sex with anyone else then that's fine too.

The point is you should he happy akd doing what you want without feeling like you owe someone your body just to stop him from.cheating or to keep him.bwimg a good dad or whatever .

Leave. Like yesterday Flowers

Spiindoctor · 20/09/2021 12:52

Is he envious of the attention the DCs get from you and wants 'his share'.......clutching at straws here.
How old is he.

HarrisMcCoo · 20/09/2021 12:55

That a man child you have there?

Tell him he has a date with five fingered Pam!

Iwonder08 · 20/09/2021 12:55

If you consider him a great husband in all the other aspects I would try to do 2 things:

  1. establish for yourself.. Would you want (want rather than reluctantly agree) to have sex more often if you had more time/less household things to do/anything else fixable with outsourcing?
  2. without therapists.. Can you talk to your husband once again, during day time, not when he wants to get laid...if you might enjoy sex more often depending on the change of circumstances in p1 then tell him how he can improve it. If you simply don't fancy it anymore regukarly/often please explain to him how it makes you feel and how off-putting his daily attempts to you. Tell him openly that you don't enjoy it twice a week and it is not fair or reasonable to have sex with a reluctant partner. His pestering just makes things worse. If he sulks in response to this conversation I would leave.
RealBecca · 20/09/2021 12:58

Im not suggesting you do this but im onterested in your perspective...

If you shagged him with gusto every night, what would happen? Do you think he would be satisfied or find some other fault? I only ask because sex can sometimes be the stage fight that you both focus on that hides another problem.

For arguements sake, if you broke up now you would both cite mismatched sex drives but actually is he feeling insecure or cross and choosing to act out THIS fight every night instead of talking about the actual problem he has? Or is this really about sex?

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